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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
By Nausi 2019-09-26 08:07:35
"Story of the day" back when it actually meant something
All these "bombshell" stories whether true or not and mostly untrue is just the way the media has been playing this pre- and post-election. Say it enough and it becomes true. Or in this case, people simply believe it. It reinforces their opinion, so therefore its true
It's weaponized TDS.
The fact that the democrat paid to "leak" the story was neither present on the call nor had actually read the transcripts of the call. Basically they "heard" that something was said and decided to help the Democrats defeat President Trump in 2020.
This is what is meant by "deep state". It's not some conspiracy lizard men type stuff but the fact that the Democrats control most of the federal positions in the DC area. Not being a Democrat makes it very hard to get employed by the US Government anywhere near DC due to the how corrupt the bureaucracy is here. Its a direct reaction to Trumps work in draining the swamp.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 08:26:57
New fake scandal:
Ukrainian official says discussing joe biden was precondition to the presidents phone call.
ABC has retracted the story
facts I don't like strikes again.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-09-26 08:43:13
Dems and the media are doing their usual judge, jury, and executioner act before the details are even out. Clearly it's working, because the latest Reuters and Economist polls are out... and Trump's approval hasn't budged. Womp womp.
By Viciouss 2019-09-26 08:47:02
Well the whistleblower details are out, the report has been released and its like 10 pages. The biggest news is the WH engaged in a huge coverup immediately after the phone call with Ukraine. Deleting the original transcript of the call because according to them, it was that bad.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 10:15:44
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:25:00
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:25:25
Dems and the media are doing their usual judge, jury, and executioner act before the details are even out. Clearly it's working, because the latest Reuters and Economist polls are out... and Trump's approval hasn't budged. Womp womp. Gone up infact.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:26:49
Hey look at that ANOTHER facts I don't like scam.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:30:34
Wow this DNi testimonial is a horror show for the Dems
Whistleblower isn't even a member of the intel community. I wonder what dem lawyer paid him to file?
Libs lose again.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-09-26 10:31:38
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
They have always advocated two standards of justice.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange man REALLY BAD
Now that both the conversation and the complaint are in the open, we can see it's a huge *** nothing. President Trump didn't do anything that the Democrats are accusing him of, CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, NYT and their downstream news channels are now openly lying with the home that people like Chanti and Shiroi will never actually do their own research.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:33:00
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
Also asking a foreign leader for a favor isnt a crime. Its kind of how executives talk to people. It isnt solely in trumps interest to investigate such a clear violation of US law, its in every citizens too.
At least thats what libs have been saying about “muh Russian collusion” for the last 3 years.
Now it just seems they want two standards of justice.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 10:33:54
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this. Let everyone go down with it, protect no one. The CIA has been messing with almost every country on Earth for nearly a century now, it would be nice to see some good riddance. Porošenko was a known US puppet, I would not be surprised if Biden is culpable of something there.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 10:34:22
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
They have always advocated two standards of justice.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange man REALLY BAD
Now that both the conversation and the complaint are in the open, we can see it's a huge *** nothing. President Trump didn't do anything that the Democrats are accusing him of, CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, NYT and their downstream news channels are now openly lying with the home that people like Chanti and Shiroi will never actually do their own research. They won’t and they wont listen to us either. They cannot handle the conflict against their emotional investment in their ideology.
By Viciouss 2019-09-26 10:34:31
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
This of course did not happen. :)
By Viciouss 2019-09-26 10:35:34
They have a sitting presudent asking a foreign government to investigate his main political opponent and they think it's completely normal.
Clear quid pro quo or not, it's concerning and likely illegal. If we apply power dynamics here, the smaller country would comply with the request to stay in the good grace of the bigger one,
There the video of biden bragging about his own corruption.
Why doesn't this warrant an investigation? Lets see you spin your way out of this.
Thats up to Ukraine and not Trump. Trump also clearly asked this as a favor, therefore it was meant to help him. Are you suggesting that Biden blackmailing a foreign country for what is clearly personal gain isnt some kind of US crime?
If you are then your advocating for two standards of justice one for dems and another for everyone else.
They have always advocated two standards of justice.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange man REALLY BAD
Now that both the conversation and the complaint are in the open, we can see it's a huge *** nothing. President Trump didn't do anything that the Democrats are accusing him of, CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, NYT and their downstream news channels are now openly lying with the home that people like Chanti and Shiroi will never actually do their own research.
This is also hilarious spin. It's gonna be another great day.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 10:58:04
Great the for the Cubs eliminated from the playoffs...
By fonewear 2019-09-26 10:59:57
Are we sure Vic is 13 don't you have to meet an age requirement to play FFXI ?
I'm pretty sure his maturity level is that of a pre pubescent adolescent.
So technically he shouldn't even be on this website.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:02:00
No we are not picking on Vic by the way...he picks fights with everyone over stupid trivial ***.
Asking for sources to things he won't even read.
You could post the source he won't read it so whats the point.
Probably the result of the poor Chicago public education system so not entirely his fault. That his reading comprehension is so poor.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:05:50
Vic eh I'll remember that name !
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By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:12:57
I've seen the pee tape...wait you got to be more specific cause I've already watched 3 pee tapes today...
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:17:40
We need better scandals.
It shouldn't require a law degree to figure out what the hell these *** are talking about.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:23:14
I'm assuming most Americans don't care or aren't following this latest scandal.
It's back to school time and little Jimmy has math homework that is due tomorrow.
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By Viciouss 2019-09-26 11:24:46
No we are not picking on Vic by the way...he picks fights with everyone over stupid trivial ***.
Asking for sources to things he won't even read.
You could post the source he won't read it so whats the point.
Probably the result of the poor Chicago public education system so not entirely his fault. That his reading comprehension is so poor.
Winning these fights is fun fone, you should come over here with me and try it. I mean, everything Saevel and nausi said today is unsourced lies. Especially the Biden blackmail bit, thats truly hilarious. Total *** btw.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:25:23
I’m starting to feel bad for Vic over here, always getting picked on :(
You can fight with me.
Something something your mother something something !
Take that !
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By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:26:49
To be honest I don't even know what the *** you guys are arguing about.
I didn't read anything.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 11:27:17
Wow Schiff is outright lying to congress in his recount of the transcript. He’s literally making up everything he's saying.
Nome of it is in the transcript.
How bad does it need to get before lefties understand these people do not have their best interests at heart?
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:27:47
What's today Thursday.
I don't read anything on Thursday.
By fonewear 2019-09-26 11:29:10
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By Nausi 2019-09-26 11:30:28
He later on after being called put by other committee members admits his fabrication was parody.
How will libs defend this?
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Yes, I'm still alive.
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