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By Nausi 2019-08-30 10:40:17
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Trump largely exaggerates, things like “we have the best numbers”. Its part of being a salesman.

Lies are things like “you can keep you doctor” Its part of being a leftist.
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See shiroi!? Ask for a source , get nothing. Just a collective "please believe us."

Lol, you make a sweeping claim that you can't possibly back up and you're whining about sources?

A "sweeping claim" huh? And you think you know for a fact that people come here to "milk the system." You realize if people are here for long term medical treatment, it leaves a paper trail a mile long, right? These aren't people going into a walk in clinic because they have a cold and paying cash. Thats not how children's hospitals work. (The taxpayers aren't paying for their care either, btw). There is a reason the government was able to send out confusing letters to all of them, we know where they all are, how long they have been here, what they are here for, etc.

But its fine, like I told Shiroi, the fun was just beginning.

Maybe a lot has changed in the last decade, but yes, I "think" I know. I don't point this out very often, but I am bilingual and there was a time when I was living in Arizona where I knew more immigrants than natives, and a large portion of them were here illegally. Couple that with the fact that I interned in college for a large healthcare system where I had access to large stores of data, and you've got a situation where I know a lot more on the topic than you'd think.

Those people that you grew up with arent the people that receive medical deferrals to stay here. If you are here illegally, you aren't getting a medical deferral. They are people that came here legally and are applying to stay longer. There is no way for them to just stay illegally while receiving medical Care at a place like MD Anderson. All of their papers have to be in order. And, the government stays in the loop.

This program isn't a big deal, it's not very large, Chantis article said 20 families in Boston, and taxpayers aren't funding it.

I love how you assume to know what I know in order to fit what you've been told. You can't bend my knowledge to your reality.
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By Nausi 2019-08-30 11:43:54
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If taxpayers fund the hospital, they’re fund whatever the hospital does.
 
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:39:22
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I love how you assume to know what I know in order to fit what you've been told. You can't bend my knowledge to your reality.
Welcome to the club. Where the facts don't matter to them, and they never have to admit they're wrong. Prove they're wrong, they change subject and won't admit it. And that's if your lucky. Sometimes you may just be called a bigot to deflect their ineptitude.

Not saying Vic, but more or less the "left" in general.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:41:26
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Trump lies deliberately and often.
I actually think he believes the crap he says, so to himself in Trump-universe, he isn't lying.

I don't agree with his lies that are contrary to facts, but lets be honest, he's not the first president to lie, nor will he be the last.

Fone, you still like your doctor?
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Nuke the hurricane when its by PR?
NO no no. Just get rid of PR, by whichever means necessary at this point.
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By Viciouss 2019-08-30 12:44:01
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See shiroi!? Ask for a source , get nothing. Just a collective "please believe us."

Lol, you make a sweeping claim that you can't possibly back up and you're whining about sources?

A "sweeping claim" huh? And you think you know for a fact that people come here to "milk the system." You realize if people are here for long term medical treatment, it leaves a paper trail a mile long, right? These aren't people going into a walk in clinic because they have a cold and paying cash. Thats not how children's hospitals work. (The taxpayers aren't paying for their care either, btw). There is a reason the government was able to send out confusing letters to all of them, we know where they all are, how long they have been here, what they are here for, etc.

But its fine, like I told Shiroi, the fun was just beginning.

Maybe a lot has changed in the last decade, but yes, I "think" I know. I don't point this out very often, but I am bilingual and there was a time when I was living in Arizona where I knew more immigrants than natives, and a large portion of them were here illegally. Couple that with the fact that I interned in college for a large healthcare system where I had access to large stores of data, and you've got a situation where I know a lot more on the topic than you'd think.

Those people that you grew up with arent the people that receive medical deferrals to stay here. If you are here illegally, you aren't getting a medical deferral. They are people that came here legally and are applying to stay longer. There is no way for them to just stay illegally while receiving medical Care at a place like MD Anderson. All of their papers have to be in order. And, the government stays in the loop.

This program isn't a big deal, it's not very large, Chantis article said 20 families in Boston, and taxpayers aren't funding it.

I love how you assume to know what I know in order to fit what you've been told. You can't bend my knowledge to your reality.

That has nothing to do with what I said. I'm not bending anything, These people using the deferral program can't be illegals, so that disqualifies all the people you said you believed were illegal.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:48:30
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No. First of all stop thinking of them as illegal immigrants.
What started this, are they crossing the border illegally or are these immigrants here that went thru process and got their residency? If the former, then yes illegal immigrants. Facts are facts. Changing vocabulary to meet what you "Feel" leads to trouble.

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Why go to Canada when the US has the best treatments on the planet?
AND DO YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT?

BECAUSE WE ARENT *** COMMIES GIVING OUT FREE HEALTHCARE LIKE LOLLIPOPS RUINING THE SYSTEM!!!!
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:50:20
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You forget, for the loyal Trumpettes ALL immigrants are illegal. If they have a visa or a green card they must have cheated.
Not all immigrants are illegal.

Son of an immigrants that are here LEGALLY. *** statement on your part.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:52:20
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See shiroi!? Ask for a source , get nothing. Just a collective "please believe us."
YOU DO THE *** SAME THING DUDE.

WE ask for sources, you "LOL" and change subject. WHAT THE ACTUAL ***.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 12:53:17
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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"In the space of three minutes, Biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong, as well as his own role in the ceremony."

That's sad ... and places him on the same level as the current president ... which is ... very sad.
Very sad, hes the LEAST crazy of the bunch running.
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
This is pretty good =)
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By fonewear 2019-08-30 12:57:20
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This is pretty good =)
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For my 3 friends on the other side of the "aisle", I give you this to make you happy.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-florida-mar-lago-resort-145748480.html

Something something his resort is in a hurricane's path. Rejoice!
 
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For my 3 friends on the other side of the "aisle", I give you this to make you happy.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-florida-mar-lago-resort-145748480.html

Something something his resort is in a hurricane's path. Rejoice!

God didn't agree with the G7 taking place there. This is all Trump's fault!
It's prolly insured and will be rebuilt in time for next G7. XD
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No. First of all stop thinking of them as illegal immigrants.
What started this, are they crossing the border illegally or are these immigrants here that went thru process and got their residency? If the former, then yes illegal immigrants. Facts are facts. Changing vocabulary to meet what you "Feel" leads to trouble.

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Why go to Canada when the US has the best treatments on the planet?
AND DO YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT?

BECAUSE WE ARENT *** COMMIES GIVING OUT FREE HEALTHCARE LIKE LOLLIPOPS RUINING THE SYSTEM!!!!

Option 2. They are people that come here legally on visas to pay for long term medical treatment. They aren't illegal, and taxpayers aren't paying their medical bills.
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See shiroi!? Ask for a source , get nothing. Just a collective "please believe us."
YOU DO THE *** SAME THING DUDE.

WE ask for sources, you "LOL" and change subject. WHAT THE ACTUAL ***.

Eat a Snickers man.
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By fonewear 2019-08-30 13:07:30
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You got the dud became a famous meme:

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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 13:09:22
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For my 3 friends on the other side of the "aisle", I give you this to make you happy.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-florida-mar-lago-resort-145748480.html

Something something his resort is in a hurricane's path. Rejoice!

God didn't agree with the G7 taking place there. This is all Trump's fault!
https://news.yahoo.com/former-canadian-prime-minister-kim-114241867.html

Thought you might find this interesting.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-08-30 13:10:15
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No. First of all stop thinking of them as illegal immigrants.
What started this, are they crossing the border illegally or are these immigrants here that went thru process and got their residency? If the former, then yes illegal immigrants. Facts are facts. Changing vocabulary to meet what you "Feel" leads to trouble.

Viciouss said: »
Why go to Canada when the US has the best treatments on the planet?
AND DO YOU KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT?

BECAUSE WE ARENT *** COMMIES GIVING OUT FREE HEALTHCARE LIKE LOLLIPOPS RUINING THE SYSTEM!!!!

Option 2. They are people that come here legally on visas to pay for long term medical treatment. They aren't illegal, and taxpayers aren't paying their medical bills.
Well than, good thing I asked for that clarification. Carry on.
 
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Trump talking to Angela Merkel:

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