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By fonewear 2019-08-27 21:58:34
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What if global warming is a good thing ? I mean I'm not going to study to find out but that could happen.

Maybe we should throw millions of dollars at the benefits of global warming.
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By Nausi 2019-08-28 05:58:31
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Nausi said: »
Michael Mann, global warming guru who developed the famous hockey stick graph, just lost a legal case because he could not prove his graph was not a fraud.

Global warming hoax confirmed.
Reminder, this is what was claimed. That mann lost the case because he failed to prove his graph was not a fraud.
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By Nausi 2019-08-28 07:18:06
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Can we agree that:

The hockey stick is a foundational component of global warming?
If the hockey stick is a fraud then global warming is fraudulent at its foundation.

Logic is fun.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-28 08:57:57
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There's a semi-famous Canadian analyst who went over that data when it was released and made a bunch of blog posts about his findings. I'll link one of the pages, but it looks like there were still some things being withheld from Mann's data.

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By Nausi 2019-08-28 09:07:39
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
Can we agree that:

The hockey stick is a foundational component of global warming?
If the hockey stick is a fraud then global warming is fraudulent at its foundation.

Logic is fun.

Feel free to use the data that has been available for more than a decade, way before the lawsuit.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/research/MANNETAL98/
Well if Mann didnt use this data in his lawsuit, why should we?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-28 09:31:47
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That doesn't really tell us anything. One of the criticisms is that Mann kept pieces of the data close to the vest. If I really felt like it, I'd have ways of getting findings "independently verified" too, even if they're full of crap. Data obfuscation is an art.

The crux of the matter is in whether Mann withheld data from a court order to protect previously withheld (or missing) information.
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By Nausi 2019-08-28 09:37:38
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Remember kids, if you demand to see Einstein’s work, you must be a nazi.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:42:21
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I don't trust Scientist they tend to not have a sense of humor...they are the type of people that takes things too literally.

If I told a Scientist global warming is going to kill us all...they would hide under their desk...
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:43:52
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Also it's in a Scientist best interest to keep doing research to prove what they already get paid for...whether this *** believes in global warming or not is not relevant His job is to research stuff. So if you told me as a Scientist my job depended on global warming...I'd post a bunch of numbers and data to keep my job. End of story !
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:44:38
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Also I wonder if a Scientist maybe a grammar Scientist can show me how to use punctuation and commas etc...I'll look into it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-28 09:48:36
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fonewear said: »
Also it's in a Scientist best interest to keep doing research to prove what they already get paid for...whether this *** believes in global warming or not is not relevant His job is to research stuff. So if you told me as a Scientist my job depended on global warming...I'd post a bunch of numbers and data to keep my job. End of story !

One of the dirty secrets of statistical analysis is that, depending on your field, a vast majority of data is never audited after it changes hands. If person A in a chain hands person B fudged data, and then person B fudges it again before sending a graph to end-user person C, chances are that person C will never know. They're too busy to verify, and likely doesn't have the know-how nor the access to verify even if they wanted to.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:51:21
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We should celebrate global warming as if it is man's contempt of nature !

Don't recycle buy disposable cups etc. Take that mother nature !
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:53:28
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Also I guess Congress is coming back from "recess" I can't tell the difference from when they are working and when they are not working.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 09:54:15
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Incoming anti gun propaganda when most people forgot which mass shooting to be outraged by. I can't remember can you ?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-28 10:12:32
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fonewear said: »
Incoming anti gun propaganda when most people forgot which mass shooting to be outraged by. I can't remember can you ?

Ooo, thanks for reminding me. I have an outrage appointment at 2:30 and haven't figured out what I'm going to be outraged about.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:13:33
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I saw a thing the other day that the Democrats are going to "do something" what that something is...probably nothing !
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:15:42
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Mom's demand action...I demand milfs...or something !

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/08/27/nancy-pelosi-rep-speier-speak-at-san-francisco-town-hall-on-gun-violence/
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:16:37
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Please note that the "moms demanding action" what action who knows more action lots of action ! Action !
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:17:24
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If I wasn't busy here on FFXIAH I'd create a dad's demand action rivalry ! That will show em !

https://momsdemandaction.org/
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:18:04
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Mom's want to end gun violence I laugh at the notion but wish them well nevertheless.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:21:57
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However being an internet *** I have a few problems with these moms.

First off you can't demand something. You have to put it to a vote.

Second off umm something

Third off yea girl power !
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:23:05
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That is a strong notion on the left. Do something... action fight the power take it to the streets...then when it comes time to vote don't do anything !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-08-28 10:24:34
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fonewear said: »
Mom's want to end gun violence I laugh at the notion but wish them well nevertheless.

Isn't this the mental process of most teenagers?

Hear what Mom is demanding -> Do the exact opposite
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:26:15
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Liberals policies always result in the opposite.

We need more gun laws ! Violent gun deaths up 300% in ghettos of Chicago well...*** it more gun laws and more more ! Never enough gun laws 1
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:27:41
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I'm willing to bet that these "moms" probably have never fired a gun in their lives...but trust em they are gun experts.
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By fonewear 2019-08-28 10:28:32
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I think fighting gun violence is a losing battle just ask your local cop. They see that ***everyday.
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