GAIN MONEY NERF!

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something. Is there a "Gain-money" RoE that I've missed all this time? lol

***years ago I was selling Hexed Jacket-1s for 120-200 mil basically as fast as I could get ingredients to make them because supplies of ingredients were so rare and therefore expensive and that was at a time when gear was somewhat stagnant so going for the high priced HQ for a little bit was great. Then SOA dropped and boy had a hard time selling for half the price


Also we should consider how much of the money from gain money is destroyed by SE themselves

You mean to tell me that someone dumping capped sparks for 1m can make this unavoidable inflation, but people buying stacks of 1m mats and instantly destroying that gil can't negate it..?

Gain-Money being the "real" title of Gain-EXP where you get 7k gil for every single mob you kill for an entire 4 hours.


Obviously not. The destruction is insufficient for the creation. There's 10,000 people sparking, and a hundred buying more than 10~ 1.1m mats

Stuff is expensive on smaller server due to limited availability but at the end of the day, most people go to Asura-market before buying on local AH or in bazaars.

I don't know, I wouldn't complain about prices nowadays, mostly about availability. I'd like a Fusenaikyo for lockstyle but I don't see any up/being advertised for an okay price lately (100-115), please send help.

Ive been living under a Rock, I didnt know about an accolade exploit.

Everyone doing omen is buying them(or buying mats from crafters who bought them). Crafters are buying hundreds. You talk about your OMG 200-300m a week, I dump twice that into npc mats some weeks.

Never mind that prices are settling not rising, inflation is certainly not out of control.

It's well beyond the "out of control" phase.

okai, doom for everything economy is in shambles

If sparks stopped being a thing tomorrow, prices would be cut in half within a week.

It’s not so much an exploit as much as it’s easy to solo exp chain via “cleaving” during the gain experience points objectives. Done efficiently you can cap every 15mins dump and be right back in the action in under 5mins.

What seriously are you talking about? The Su5 weapons that require excessive luck and an eschuteon to unreliably craft? Everything else I've seen rarely crests over, let's say, 30 million, and that's the extreme HQ crafted gear.

Back in the day, I'd have to farm for weeks to afford something that cost 1 million NQ. Now I can spend a couple days, if I'm so inclined, and get the HQ. If anything, the economy seems tanked, not inflated, but to claim such would be grossly inaccurate.

Ahem I'd like to point out that the STF reported that just last month alone they froze 1.9 billion gil. Yes that was above average month but they've done 13.3 billion YTD. That's putting a rather serious dent in the money flood by itself

How the hell are you getting 50m a week casually spamming Gain Exp lol. No way you can get all 12 hours of Gain EXP "casually" with how those times are spread out. wat

On that note, I've heard of about a half dozen bans or suspensions in the last month compared to like ... 0 in the year before that. Wonder what changed.

you do realize that ***has been common knowledge for like 5 years, pchan gave addons to do that to everyone, and the entire point was that grinding 12 hours across 3 different timezones isn't casual

cool that you're so proud of an addon that took 15 min to write tho

Not "Proud" of anything. I was simply pointing out how automated sparks is, since people don't seem to understand how broken it is. I take zero credit for anything.

Removing or nerfing gain-exp would take more than just removing or nerfing gain-exp. From a team that is on almost full maintenance mode at this point. Not happening. Doesn't need to happen. Not surprised to see who's crying about it though.

one positive thing came from this post. I learned about a new addon to sell Powders

~ cheers

plz do tell

idk but boy I can tell you I can't wait for next months spazzing in the ambuscade thread. Bet it's already written or saved

How?

fuzzy math

I think he's being excessive.

10min to dump is valid/a high estimate. Enough open source addons for sparks, Pchan shared something for prize powder (or you could easily write your own with rudimentary understanding of menu packets). For selling, there's sellnpc which can be found with a google search, and modified to be much faster, or Bellhop plugin for Ashita will dump all sales instantly. Again, with the mindset of "this is for sparks/accolades only" a novice programmer can easily create a lot of personal things that will be equally or more efficient than open source tools, given that they are making it solely for one purpose.

So for 50m/char for one week, I assume you're leaving at capped accolades, which should give you at best 600k in sparks (unless I'm unaware of something?), so 1.6m per dump, 31.25 dumps total. Across 3 windows, that's 10.4 dumps per day, or 2.6 dumps per hour. Personally I end up around 30min for accolades cap + 5min to dump, including mob-related ROE and crystals from Reisin. This lines up with what Eiryl mentioned for himself (12 hours/(35min/60min/hour))*1.6mil * 6 characters = 197mil. So for a single character it's more around 32m a week. It scales great with multiple characters, which is becoming more common place, but I wouldn't call that an exploit (you could just as easily have 5 friends join you and commit all their money to you, if you feel the upgrade justified the effort, like an Idris.)

Always been a job, it's just the first 10 years you're an unpaid intern.