Random Politics & Religion #36

My sources

Jesus Chanti

fairus.org

So freaking hard to figure that one out.

https://fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/Fiscal-Burden-of-Illegal-Immigration-2017.pdf

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I mean whatever rebut you have to this assuming you don't just ignore it like Vic (lol), you cannot possible suggest illegal immigration doesn't cost us any money. Therefore putting up a wall which will slow or even stop the flood of illegal crossings will necessarily save us money.

I hope shes ready for retirement.

and can I get his phone number?

Thanks. But the only entries on the positive side are tax payments. There is nothing on the economic benifits of employers like Trump or Devin Nunes, for instance, being able to pay lower wages. Or, for that mater, being able to hire workers at all.

Farm workers: Take our jobs, please!

I am not saying this turns the fiscal impact positive, I can't. I am saying that this is not accounted for in the paper you linked.

So then we can agree that the work is low skilled in nature and can be done by citizens for the right wage?

Thanks. But the only entries on the positive side are tax payments. There is nothing on the economic benifits of employers like Trump or Devin Nunes, for instance, being able to pay lower wages. Or, for that mater, being able to hire workers at all.

Farm workers: Take our jobs, please!

I am not saying this turns the fiscal impact positive, I can't. I am saying that this is not accounted for in the paper you linked.

What I do not understand for the life of me is why do liberals fight for higher wages for ***like fast food workers but when you mention agricultural job wages being raised they flip?

all I want to know is....wtf did she offer lucifer in exchange for her own immortality!? and can I get his phone number?



asking for a friend

are you the slore from ghostbusters...

so penalize companies that use low wage undocumented immigrants.

and pay citizens an honest wage.

This is not an accurate representation at all lol. Agriculture wages aren't mandated by the federal government, its the private sector. The farmers are the ones that determine how much they pay their workers, not the politicians. And guess what? They want to keep those wages as low as they can to maximize their profits. It has nothing to do with the "left."

As for raising the minimum wage, the states that have done that are blue states. Red states, ie the agriculture states, are doing nothing in that fight. So again, blaming the left is a joke.

Oh and, lets not pretend Americans want to be working in those fields for any wage. They never have and they never will.

Different people have different opinions, some will like, some will dislike and some will have contradicting opinions, everyone "from the left" don't agree on all subjects, far from it.

Now, higher wages for citizens looks really good on paper, but you aren't actually saving money because products price will increase accordingly, then people will just end up being their products from elsewhere, like mexico.

This is happening here where fruits / vegetables made in Canada are way too expensive when compared to products from California / Mexico. Farmers complain people don't support them enough, but you know I'm not going to pay 10$ for strawberries when I can have more for half the price.

The cost of living is also much higher in urban areas where 15$ minimal wage makes more sense.

Is there actually enough people to replace all the illegal workers on farms?

There's no perfect solution, there needs to be some kind of balance.

Agriculture wages aren't mandated by the federal government