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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 10:27:55
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It took no effort to debunk you two, its probably better to pick a topic other than racism, it never goes well for you guys.

You didn't debunk squat. The only thing you got right was how little effort you put into it.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-01 10:51:04
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Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
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By Nausi 2018-09-01 10:59:35
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It took no effort to debunk you two, its probably better to pick a topic other than racism, it never goes well for you guys.
lol, you didn't debunk anyone. Roseanne didn't call anyone an ape.
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By Nausi 2018-09-01 11:00:04
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Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-09-01 12:39:06
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Search these terms and look at the number of hits:

Monkey Wrench
Barrel of Monkeys
Money Business
Monkey's Uncle
Monkey on Your Back
Monkey Around
Monkey House
Cheeky Monkey
Monkey Suit
Spank the Monkey
Monkey See Monkey Do

Now search "monkey this up" and eliminate any searches in the last 10 days.

Compare the numbers.
these are considered racial slurs?
No.

All those other monkey expressions are commonly used. I am not claiming they are racist or not racist.

The right is claiming that "monkey this up" is a commonly used expression and therefore can't be racist. It isn't commonly used. It sounds like a racist dog whistle in context.

Full context: "The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state."
Must be a regional expression because I’ve heard it a lot where I live and never ever has it had any racial or ethnic meaning hidden or open.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-09-01 13:43:06
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Interesting observation....

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Article I, section 5 of the Constitution requires that a quorum (51 senators) be present for the Senate to conduct business. Often, fewer than 51 senators are present on the floor, but the Senate presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise.
So right now the dems can freeze the senate solid by simply not showing up.

There might be a problem in calling for a roll call vote without providing that 51st senator though.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 13:54:12
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Interesting observation....

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Article I, section 5 of the Constitution requires that a quorum (51 senators) be present for the Senate to conduct business. Often, fewer than 51 senators are present on the floor, but the Senate presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise.
So right now the dems can freeze the senate solid by simply not showing up.

There might be a problem in calling for a roll call vote without providing that 51st senator though.

Sounds like a solid strategy for the midterms. I encourage the Dems to try it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 14:08:35
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And I guess since we're talking about super duper racist Roseanne, how about this lovely quote from the bishop at Aretha Franklin's funeral?

"When I saw Ariana Grande on the program, I thought that was a new something at Taco Bell."
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By Viciouss 2018-09-01 15:11:00
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Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
It took no effort to debunk you two, its probably better to pick a topic other than racism, it never goes well for you guys.
lol, you didn't debunk anyone. Roseanne didn't call anyone an ape.

She got fired for it and you still cant save her.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-01 15:14:48
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Nausi said: »
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Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.

Says the kid that is trying to claim the left is racist against black people, which is still total ***. I thought there werent enough racists to elect a senator, or have you abandoned that personal conspiracy theory?
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By Zerowone 2018-09-01 19:26:26
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Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.

Says the kid that is trying to claim the left is racist against black people, which is still total ***. I thought there werent enough racists to elect a senator, or have you abandoned that personal conspiracy theory?

Also the same kid and posters that takes issue with Black Lives Matter, NFL Players taking a knee during the anthem to protest police brutality in the black community, also defend the Roseanne and DeSantis in multiple pages in this thread.

Implicit Bias is real and evident in their posting trends.

All these pastors in Florida protesting DeSantis, are they SJWs are they white people telling you how black people feel?



https://abcn.ws/2LJFKPc

No. They aren’t.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 21:17:29
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Zerowone said: »
Also the same kid and posters that takes issue with Black Lives Matter, NFL Players taking a knee during the anthem to protest police brutality in the black community, also defend the Roseanne and DeSantis in multiple pages in this thread.

So, you're comparing well thought out, intentional actions to... word vomit. Yeah, try again.

Zerowone said: »
Implicit Bias is real and evident in their posting trends.

Coming from you? Yeah, try again.

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All these pastors in Florida protesting DeSantis, are they SJWs are they white people telling you how black people feel?

Since you're clearly referring to my previous comment:

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Given how a huge proportion of the SJW voices out there are white people putting words into minorities' mouths and getting offended in their behalf, it sounds to me like the condescension goes far beyond "dismissive rhetoric".
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Given how a huge proportion of the SJW voices out there
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huge proportion

Congratulations, you found an anecdote that does nothing to counter my statement. Yeah, Try again.
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By fonewear 2018-09-01 21:23:07
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OH yea I guess a funeral is an appropriate place to bash Trump.

I guess never miss an opportunity to bash the President. Even in death.
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By fonewear 2018-09-01 21:25:44
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Zerowone said: »
Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.

Says the kid that is trying to claim the left is racist against black people, which is still total ***. I thought there werent enough racists to elect a senator, or have you abandoned that personal conspiracy theory?

Also the same kid and posters that takes issue with Black Lives Matter, NFL Players taking a knee during the anthem to protest police brutality in the black community, also defend the Roseanne and DeSantis in multiple pages in this thread.

Implicit Bias is real and evident in their posting trends.

All these pastors in Florida protesting DeSantis, are they SJWs are they white people telling you how black people feel?



https://abcn.ws/2LJFKPc

No. They aren’t.

I'm not biased I just don't give a *** ! So there put that in your pipe and smoke it !
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By fonewear 2018-09-01 21:27:49
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I'm more interested int he most disgraceful funeral I've ever witnessed on TV no less. A funeral disguised as Trump bashing. Such a thing should not be possible. But I watched it live today.
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By Zerowone 2018-09-01 21:29:53
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Zerowone said: »
Also the same kid and posters that takes issue with Black Lives Matter, NFL Players taking a knee during the anthem to protest police brutality in the black community, also defend the Roseanne and DeSantis in multiple pages in this thread.

So, you're comparing well thought out, intentional actions to... word vomit. Yeah, try again.

Zerowone said: »
Implicit Bias is real and evident in their posting trends.

Coming from you? Yeah, try again.

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All these pastors in Florida protesting DeSantis, are they SJWs are they white people telling you how black people feel?

Since you're clearly referring to my previous comment:

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Given how a huge proportion of the SJW voices out there are white people putting words into minorities' mouths and getting offended in their behalf, it sounds to me like the condescension goes far beyond "dismissive rhetoric".
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Given how a huge proportion of the SJW voices out there
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huge proportion

Congratulations, you found an anecdote that does nothing to counter my statement. Yeah, Try again.

Attack the idea or the argument not the person. After all your one of posters here who always cries about ad hominem attacks.

This isn’t middle school where responding to individual lines where each response doesn’t actually refute the line, passes as conversation or a all your post does is reinforce the the popular perception that you are intellectually dishonest.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 22:23:41
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Zerowone said: »
Attack the idea or the argument not the person.
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reinforce the the popular perception that you are intellectually dishonest.

You can lecture me when you actually practice what you preach.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-01 22:24:53
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fonewear said: »
I'm more interested int he most disgraceful funeral I've ever witnessed on TV no less. A funeral disguised as Trump bashing. Such a thing should not be possible. But I watched it live today.

Maxine Waters once did an "Impeach 45" chant while giving a eulogy. There is no shame among them.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-09-01 22:32:15
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fonewear said: »
OH yea I guess a funeral is an appropriate place to bash Trump.

I guess never miss an opportunity to bash the President. Even in death.
Well it wasn't HIS death.

Even I could find something good to say about Trump if he were dead.

I think...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-09-01 22:33:13
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fonewear said: »
I'm not biased I just don't give a *** ! So there put that in your pipe pants and smoke it !
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2018-09-01 23:12:52
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Reminder, if the policy is you can compare every kind of person except black people to monkeys, then that racially discriminates against black people and is an actual example of racism.
Ahahahahaha... File this away with "slaves should just run away" and garbage truck earthquakes. Points for creativity though since the "you're the real racist for calling out racism" that came after is pretty tired.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-09-02 00:02:45
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I dunno, the "let's all point and laugh instead of making an actual argument" is getting even more tired, and yet here you all are.
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By Nausi 2018-09-02 07:32:34
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Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
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Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.

Says the kid that is trying to claim the left is racist against black people, which is still total ***. I thought there werent enough racists to elect a senator, or have you abandoned that personal conspiracy theory?

There aren't enough nazis or members of the klan to elect a senator. Those particular ideologies have always been part of left wing / authoritarian ideology.

The real racism today is on the left. it comes in thinking black or X people need assistance programs because they are inherently inferior. It is the soft bigotry of low expectations. And it comes in the collective charge of white guilt and white privilege that's levied against the majority.

The republicans freed the slaves and pushed for civil rights legislation. The democrats FOUNDED the KKK.
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By Nausi 2018-09-02 07:33:33
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fonewear said: »
OH yea I guess a funeral is an appropriate place to bash Trump.

I guess never miss an opportunity to bash the President. Even in death.
Truly stunning. what a disgraceful fat cow.
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By Nausi 2018-09-02 07:35:20
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Nausi said: »
Reminder, if the policy is you can compare every kind of person except black people to monkeys, then that racially discriminates against black people and is an actual example of racism.
Ahahahahaha... File this away with "slaves should just run away" and garbage truck earthquakes. Points for creativity though since the "you're the real racist for calling out racism" that came after is pretty tired.
Pleebo, I don't think you even capable of understanding yourself as anything but a perpetual victim. It doesn't surprise me that you don't know what racism means either.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-02 09:09:21
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Nausi said: »
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Nausi said: »
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Really because the lie that the left looks down on black people is still a lie. Its just another pathetic attempt to deflect racism off of you and onto someone else. Time to tear that page out of the playbook.
You don't even know what racism even means.

Says the kid that is trying to claim the left is racist against black people, which is still total ***. I thought there werent enough racists to elect a senator, or have you abandoned that personal conspiracy theory?

There aren't enough nazis or members of the klan to elect a senator. Those particular ideologies have always been part of left wing / authoritarian ideology.

The real racism today is on the left. it comes in thinking black or X people need assistance programs because they are inherently inferior. It is the soft bigotry of low expectations. And it comes in the collective charge of white guilt and white privilege that's levied against the majority.


So now you have changed your story from there aren't enough racists to elect a senator to all the racists are on the left!! You are pathetic.

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The liberals freed the slaves and pushed for civil rights legislation. The conservatives FOUNDED the KKK.

Also, ftfy.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-02 09:13:30
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Oh yeah, Meghan McCain had a great eulogy for her dad yesterday, should be remembered for a long time.
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By Viciouss 2018-09-02 09:14:24
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I dunno, the "let's all point and laugh instead of making an actual argument" is getting even more tired, and yet here you all are.

You have not made any sort of argument. Putting yourself in nausi's corner has only made you look as stupid as him.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-09-02 09:33:15
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I dunno, the "let's all point and laugh instead of making an actual argument" is getting even more tired, and yet here you all are.
Personally I think pointing and laughing is quite the appropriate response to what you call an "argument."
 
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