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String Theory: A Puppetmaster's Guide *NEW*
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By Asura.Illuminate 2024-09-17 21:46:27
If you only care about pets theyre great augments, but ultimately a waste compared to the wsd path, or even some tp/nuke paths imo.
Really woulda liked if they let you get 2 sets of it
I totally agree. Maybe double the rp for the second set of gear if they had to for 'balance' reasons. Even the crap you choose a path for with airlixirs can be changed for 1 silt from the npc Nolan in Norg...
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By Asura.Illuminate 2024-09-18 14:22:30
FYI the quest "A Barrel of Laughs" that rewards the player with one of four, pet-centered earrings: if you have thrown away your earring, you can get a new one of your choice for 50,000 Bayld. Talk to Peladi Shalmohr in the Mummer's coalition, she'll yell at you for losing it, then offer your choice of earring for the 50,000 Bayld.
The BGwiki only states you can exchange the earring once per conquest tally by trading her your current one and spending 10,000 Bayld. Nothing about reacquiring one. I learned this the hard way after I tossed my Gelos earring lol
By Veydal1 2024-09-18 14:30:07
I didn't even know you could change them at all. I don't recall that info being on the wiki when I did the quest a couple years ago, but it's absolutely possible I missed it. Thanks for the info!
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By Sleepingway 2024-09-26 23:05:54
If I can only afford the Su4 Fists, how do those compare vs Sakpata's Fists, especially for overdrive sets?
By Nariont 2024-09-27 00:48:43
Much better, 20% WSD of sorts is a lot better than all stats +20, sakpata's as far as pet is concerned is a nuke piece
By LightningHelix 2024-09-27 09:11:39
FYI the quest "A Barrel of Laughs" that rewards the player with one of four, pet-centered earrings: if you have thrown away your earring, you can get a new one of your choice for 50,000 Bayld. Talk to Peladi Shalmohr in the Mummer's coalition, she'll yell at you for losing it, then offer your choice of earring for the 50,000 Bayld.
The BGwiki only states you can exchange the earring once per conquest tally by trading her your current one and spending 10,000 Bayld. Nothing about reacquiring one. I learned this the hard way after I tossed my Gelos earring lol Thank you for this because I tossed mine ages ago lmao
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-09-27 10:03:30
If I can only afford the Su4 Fists, how do those compare vs Sakpata's Fists, especially for overdrive sets? Much better, 20% WSD of sorts is a lot better than all stats +20, sakpata's as far as pet is concerned is a nuke piece
The much more important part of the question is, should you spend the ~40m on a +1, will you get 40m worth of use out of it, or should you save and get the +2
Will you ever get the +2, if so don't waste the effort on the +1, unless you need it and can't wait for +2.
You're just lighting gil on fire with a +1 and unless you absolutely have to, you shouldn't. But also, if you never need +2, then it's fine. The amount of times you need +2 are zero. 5% more damage for an extra ~70m.
If you can accomplish what you need to accomplish with sakpata, you shouldn't waste the gil on the +1.
By Nariont 2024-09-27 14:11:45
Depends on the persons situation, time is money but if they're doing dyna-d on the regular that's 3 runs minimum for "free" to cap out a Su4 with a 10m initial investment, depending on how RP stones are circulated, you can use those to recoup some of the cost or to get it maxed out quicker
By Felgarr 2024-09-27 14:48:32
FYI the quest "A Barrel of Laughs" that rewards the player with one of four, pet-centered earrings: if you have thrown away your earring, you can get a new one of your choice for 50,000 Bayld. Talk to Peladi Shalmohr in the Mummer's coalition, she'll yell at you for losing it, then offer your choice of earring for the 50,000 Bayld.
The BGwiki only states you can exchange the earring once per conquest tally by trading her your current one and spending 10,000 Bayld. Nothing about reacquiring one. I learned this the hard way after I tossed my Gelos earring lol
Could someone explain what the PUP earring with Maneuvers +1 actually does?
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By Nariont 2024-09-27 14:53:49
just +1 to stat given when using a maneuver depending on element
fire=str
water=mnd
thunder=dex etc
edit: Apparently also increases overload threshold?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Maneuver
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-09-27 14:54:50
When you use a maneuver it gains 1 stat extra.
+1 str for fire
+1 dex for thunder
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By Asura.Lunafreya 2024-09-27 17:27:37
I’ll do “things that haven’t scaled with iLvl” for 300 Alex.
By Nariont 2024-09-27 18:13:50
it's +13~15 depending on gear per maneuver, so not terrible, but yeah hasnt kept up with players stat increases
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By Asura.Illuminate 2024-09-27 18:47:45
it's +13~15 depending on gear per maneuver, so not terrible, but yeah hasnt kept up with players stat increases
So depending on how much gear you can acquire with "Maneuver +__" you can get up to +13~15 per stat, depending on your set?
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By Asura.Illuminate 2024-09-27 18:50:50
I didn't even know you could change them at all. I don't recall that info being on the wiki when I did the quest a couple years ago, but it's absolutely possible I missed it. Thanks for the info!
Yea, np. When I did the quest it was yearssss ago, and I hadn't even unlocked PUP yet let alone thought of getting anything other than gelos. Probably at the time SMN was still the meta basically for reisenjima NMs and aeonics?
I only recently took an interest in PUP, and was looking at itemsets for different builds and thought...I tossed my gelos earring... FAKK!
It doesn't say anything about re-acquiring it on the wiki so I dreaded the fact that it was probably one of those items where you drop it, too bad. I was pleasantly surprised when she yelled at me for 50k bayld for another one lol
By Nariont 2024-09-27 18:53:34
So depending on how much gear you can acquire with "Maneuver +__" you can get up to +13~15 per stat, depending on your set?
You get i think 7 at base per maneuver, at 99 with no +maneuver gear, +3 af gloves is +5, and the earring is +1, you can also swap in midnights for another +2 for a total of +15.
By Sleepingway 2024-10-02 19:15:02
Bg-wiki version has the Overdrive attachment set for SS frame, but what should my attachements look like for VE Overdrive, and which instances should I use VE in overdrive over SS?
By Shiva.Myamoto 2024-10-02 20:43:23
Without going into much detail, it can be very circumstantial. Probably not the answer you are looking for but its the truth.
More often than not you can count on a handful of common attachments regardless though.
Turbo Charger 2 (1 as well potentially)
ARK 4
Optic Fiber 1
Optic Fiber 2
Attuner
Magniplug 2
Magniplug 1
Flame Holder
The remaining slots are flexible depending on the encounter, defensive needs, ws choice. Skillchains or no skillchains and the intended active maneuvers as a result.
Messing around with different set ups for pup just requires an understanding of how the attachments and maneuvers actually effect the automaton, followed by time just playing the job and experimenting.
Your text to link here...
That is an older guide but a good place to start for various set ups.
>> Click Here to view the guide over at BG Wiki <<
Last Update: 26th April 2019
I'd like to give a big shout-out to all the Puppetmasters, old or new, who have been relentlessly sharing their PUP knowledge and findings online in order to help me write this guide.
Cheers!
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