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Random Politics & Religion #28: The Last One
You can't make progress without making waves.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » I'm curious what "the problem" was. Not agreeing with your summary but how is that a problem? For you? For the president?
We need common ground is what I was thinking the 'problem' is.
jftr. Garuda.Chanti said: » You can't make progress without making waves. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Not agreeing with your summary but how is that a problem? For you? For the president? Garuda.Chanti said: » You can't make progress without making waves. Sometimes the people that make waves are akin to morons flailing around in the ocean. Somehow people mistake that for progress. /shrug. Nausi said: » Because as a consumer of football, we dont want to watch it with injected with left wing political activism Bahamut.Ravael said: » Sometimes the people that make waves are akin to morons flailing around in the ocean Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Why are they morons here? It was a general statement, but if we're going with the football theme, what we have are people who are fad reactionaries who can't seem to agree on what they're protesting in the first place. Due to the fact that there's ambiguity in their message, it just comes off like they're disrespecting the flag. They're succeeding in drawing momentary attention to themselves and subsequently killing their own sport's ratings as a result, while simultaneously accomplishing nothing of value. Kneeling for the anthem is edgy, it's cool, it shows that we care about... something. Let's face it, we might as well be dabbing. The kids who mimic us don't know any better anyway. At least it wouldn't tell people that we have a problem with the country that pays us a ton of money to run and/or hit people for Offline
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Nausi said: » The problem was a spoiled black guy What makes him spoiled in your eyes? Offline
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Nausi said: » Because as a consumer of football, we dont want to watch it with injected with left wing political activism I'm pretty sure you account for the 200 users on this website. So is it time to stop playing the anthem period, along with stop paying the military to be present? I mean, you said you don't want politics in your sports.
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I think on 3rd down Jay Cutler should discuss black lives matter. That would be entertaining.
Oh man, where will Trump get his non-facts I don't like now
Quote: On Sunday, Oct. 8, Fox News Channel aired a story about John Garofalo, a glass artist who created a presidential glass seal in the hopes of gifting it to President Trump. Garofalo claimed he was a Vietnam veteran, a member of the first U.S. Navy SEAL team, and a decorated war hero who was awarded two Purple Hearts. Unfortunately, all of Garofalo's claims turned out to be untrue. The fact is that he did not serve in Vietnam. He was never a U.S. Navy SEAL. Even though he showed us medals, Garofalo was not awarded two Purple Hearts or any of the other nearly two dozen commendations he claimed to have received, except for the National Defense Service Medal. It is true that Garafalo is a glass artist and a veteran. He served in Spain and he gifted two presidential seals to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Over the last two weeks, we've worked with Garofalo's family and the National Personnel Records Center to get to the bottom of a military past that Garofalo had claimed to be covert. We apologize to our viewers, especially veterans and servicemen and women. Offline
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You mean Janeane Garofalo the feminist comic ?
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: » Oh man, where will Trump get his non-facts I don't like now Quote: On Sunday, Oct. 8, Fox News Channel aired a story about John Garofalo, a glass artist who created a presidential glass seal in the hopes of gifting it to President Trump. Garofalo claimed he was a Vietnam veteran, a member of the first U.S. Navy SEAL team, and a decorated war hero who was awarded two Purple Hearts. Unfortunately, all of Garofalo's claims turned out to be untrue. The fact is that he did not serve in Vietnam. He was never a U.S. Navy SEAL. Even though he showed us medals, Garofalo was not awarded two Purple Hearts or any of the other nearly two dozen commendations he claimed to have received, except for the National Defense Service Medal. It is true that Garafalo is a glass artist and a veteran. He served in Spain and he gifted two presidential seals to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Over the last two weeks, we've worked with Garofalo's family and the National Personnel Records Center to get to the bottom of a military past that Garofalo had claimed to be covert. We apologize to our viewers, especially veterans and servicemen and women. I was going to read this then I realized I don't care. Offline
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: » Oh man, where will Trump get his non-facts I don't like now Quote: On Sunday, Oct. 8, Fox News Channel aired a story about John Garofalo, a glass artist who created a presidential glass seal in the hopes of gifting it to President Trump. Garofalo claimed he was a Vietnam veteran, a member of the first U.S. Navy SEAL team, and a decorated war hero who was awarded two Purple Hearts. Unfortunately, all of Garofalo's claims turned out to be untrue. The fact is that he did not serve in Vietnam. He was never a U.S. Navy SEAL. Even though he showed us medals, Garofalo was not awarded two Purple Hearts or any of the other nearly two dozen commendations he claimed to have received, except for the National Defense Service Medal. It is true that Garafalo is a glass artist and a veteran. He served in Spain and he gifted two presidential seals to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Over the last two weeks, we've worked with Garofalo's family and the National Personnel Records Center to get to the bottom of a military past that Garofalo had claimed to be covert. We apologize to our viewers, especially veterans and servicemen and women. Stolen Valor is disgusting. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » It's hard to understand the level of outrage and animosity directed towards the protesters given how low-key the actual method of protesting is (at least pre-Trump pot stirring). Ffs, it's kneeling. And the reason they kneel: Kaep's teammate Eric Reid said: "After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, ... during the anthem as a peaceful protest," said Reid. "We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy." So it's funny, they intentionally made that decision to keep it respectful to service members. Offline
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Shiva.Shruiken said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » It's hard to understand the level of outrage and animosity directed towards the protesters given how low-key the actual method of protesting is (at least pre-Trump pot stirring). Ffs, it's kneeling. And the reason they kneel: Kaep's teammate Eric Reid said: "After hours of careful consideration, and even a visit from Nate Boyer, a retired Green Beret and former NFL player, we came to the conclusion that we should kneel, rather than sit, ... during the anthem as a peaceful protest," said Reid. "We chose to kneel because it’s a respectful gesture. I remember thinking our posture was like a flag flown at half-mast to mark a tragedy." So it's funny, they intentionally made that decision to keep it respectful to service members. But the Right Wing media machine told me they’re protesting the flag and our troops! I’ll be god damned if the liberal hive mind is disrespecting our boys. By boys I mean their actual children. Emotional manipulation and propaganda is very real (for both sides) Offline
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Why are we on this ***still ? Let the sons of *** kneel.
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I don't care why they are kneeling if they are kneeling. The story died like 3 weeks ago.
fonewear said: » Why are we on this ***still ? Let the sons of *** kneel. judge fone has spoken. now back to baseball. dodgers already up 2-0. ruh roh shaggy Offline
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Dodgers on fire tonight bases loaded no outs.
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Somewhere Vic is weeping in a bottle of Coors Light.
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Grand slam !
RIP Vic. RIP whoever faces Kershaw in the WS.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » It was a general statement, but if we're going with the football theme, what we have are people who are fad reactionaries who can't seem to agree on what they're protesting in the first place. Due to the fact that there's ambiguity in their message, it just comes off like they're disrespecting the flag. They're succeeding in drawing momentary attention to themselves and subsequently killing their own sport's ratings as a result, while simultaneously accomplishing nothing of value. |
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