They're hacking it, no proof, but it's a fair assumption. There are way more HQ2 weapons and necks out there than there has any right to be.
There should be a THOUSAND Lanun Knives out there for the amount of Rostams there are, but there are hardly any.
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Necks and weapons are both T1. With shield enchantment, it's about 3 sets of materials to get a HQ on average, though within that you still have the HQ/HQ2/HQ3 distribution.
I don't know about the amount of Lanun knives, but it should be about 3:1 to Rostams (1/16 HQ3 3/16 HQ2 12/16 HQ1). Probably less being listed on AH and more being bazaared, since anyone with a S4 shield likely has more valuable stuff to list.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
They're hacking it, no proof, but it's a fair assumption. There are way more HQ2 weapons and necks out there than there has any right to be.
There should be a THOUSAND Lanun Knives out there for the amount of Rostams there are, but there are hardly any.
There should be a THOUSAND Lanun Knives out there for the amount of Rostams there are, but there are hardly any.
Maybe people are duping medals now too, you never know.
I have no idea what people are arguing about cheating, I am bout to be on 100% on my last stage shield and I want nobody to tell me how to make it easier to do my spirit. You know you cheaters that may be there no one pm me and tell me exactly how to make it quicker. Whatever you do! do not send me a pm and tell me how do make it easier on myself thanks.
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Nothing would really surprise me at this point, you literally can't get banned if you don't insult someone anymore, so everything is on the table.
There's a reason (most) of these people don't craft in public (aside from the obvious people begging them to craft)
There's a reason (most) of these people don't craft in public (aside from the obvious people begging them to craft)
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Necks and weapons are both T1. With shield enchantment, it's about 3 sets of materials to get a HQ on average, though within that you still have the HQ/HQ2/HQ3 distribution.
Is this confirmed? Yeah the main craft is t1, but did they really put the subcraft at 63 or lower? How in the world would you test this unless you had a shield but didn't have leveled subcrafts......
Asura.Solymr said: »
Is this confirmed? Yeah the main craft is t1, but did they really put the subcraft at 63 or lower? How in the world would you test this unless you had a shield but didn't have leveled subcrafts......
No, I haven't used underleveled subs to verify it with absolute truth, but my results are consistantly in the range I would expect for T1. A factor of 4x is more than enough difference to eyeball.
You don't have to take my word for it, ask anyone with a S4 shield who's crafted a significant amount of them. It's common knowledge that they are T1.
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ALSO question I waited a bit too long to ask but never concerned me until now, I am on my last stage so obviously shield bonuses are important, when it asks for 5+ materials to craft with does the 5 include the crystal or it does not? or is it crystal + 5?
Cerberus.Genoside said: »
ALSO question I waited a bit too long to ask but never concerned me until now, I am on my last stage so obviously shield bonuses are important, when it asks for 5+ materials to craft with does the 5 include the crystal or it does not? or is it crystal + 5?
crystal + 5
Is there a gearswap lua to change into crafting gear?
Like if im out farming stuff i can go from my tp gear to crafting gear automatically? would be nice! Kind of new to gearswap but remember spellcast.
Like if im out farming stuff i can go from my tp gear to crafting gear automatically? would be nice! Kind of new to gearswap but remember spellcast.
Cerberus.Genoside said: »
Is there a gearswap lua to change into crafting gear?
Like if im out farming stuff i can go from my tp gear to crafting gear automatically? would be nice! Kind of new to gearswap but remember spellcast.
Like if im out farming stuff i can go from my tp gear to crafting gear automatically? would be nice! Kind of new to gearswap but remember spellcast.
I use 2 chars so the stationary char is always on the craft gear but if i were to use 1, i'd either make an equipset macro with everything i wanna change or a set in gs with a macro to swap for it, idk if there's something automatic out there.
I guess you could use a gearswap lua and set your idle gear as your crafting gear so each time you aren't fighting you just idle in your craft gear. Alternatively as Phuoc said, equipment set (which I do) or set up as a button press in lua.
I set a global set for my crafting gear, then another key to disable gearswap. so no matter what job im on, i hit ctrl+f1 to goto crafting gear and shift+f1 to lock it.
Code
sets.Crafting = {body="Boneworker's Smock",head="Protective spectacles",sub="Os. Escutcheon",ring1="Orvail Ring",ring2="Craftmaster's Ring",neck="Boneworker's Torque",hands="Tanner's Gloves"}
send_command('bind f1 gs equip sets.Crafting') --Equip my crafting set
send_command('bind ^f1 gs disable all') --Lock
Why do you need a lua to change like 5 pieces of gear when you craft... is it so hard to make an equipset and type /equipset 23?
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Necks and weapons are both T1. With shield enchantment, it's about 3 sets of materials to get a HQ on average, though within that you still have the HQ/HQ2/HQ3 distribution.
Are you using any neck/items for subcraft ? i tested many sessions of craft weapons and it seems i'm in T0 results (on 300/400 crafts). I'm maybe just cursed.
Not using anything for subcraft, but using advanced support from current guild and all skill+ items, so 124/70.
Asura.Toralin said: »
I set a global set for my crafting gear, then another key to disable gearswap. so no matter what job im on, i hit ctrl+f1 to goto crafting gear and shift+f1 to lock it.
Code
sets.Crafting = {body="Boneworker's Smock",head="Protective spectacles",sub="Os. Escutcheon",ring1="Orvail Ring",ring2="Craftmaster's Ring",neck="Boneworker's Torque",hands="Tanner's Gloves"}
send_command('bind f1 gs equip sets.Crafting') --Equip my crafting set
send_command('bind ^f1 gs disable all') --LockTYVM sir
Curious how my intial (alchemy) HQ rates compare with others who have had their shield longer. I'm pretty confident in my T1 and T2 #s, but I'm not sure about my T0 numbers. I'm wondering if some things are not actually T0 based on incorrect subcrafts listed. In essence, all of my T1s come from Hexed synths, T2s come from certain vexed synths, and the T0s come from the higher level vexed synths that use a NQ hexed piece. All synths are done with NQ Orvail ring, craftmaster's ring, coconut rusk, ionis, and shield enchantment:
T2: 34% (46/137)
T1: 11% (74/693)
T0: 8% (12/151)
As I said, I'm very confident in T1/T2, but T0 seems incredibly high, and I wonder if sub crafts listed at 70 are incorrect.
T2: 34% (46/137)
T1: 11% (74/693)
T0: 8% (12/151)
As I said, I'm very confident in T1/T2, but T0 seems incredibly high, and I wonder if sub crafts listed at 70 are incorrect.
Your sample sizes aren't large enough to be meaningful for anything.
Asura.Cair said: »
Your sample sizes aren't large enough to be meaningful for anything.
I find this hard to believe, that at 150ish, let alone 693 you can't get a rough estimate +/- a % or few. But I'm no statistician, so please elaborate if you can. The purpose of my post was also to hopefully garnish information from those with much larger sample sizes, since as I said in my first sentence, "Curious how my intial (alchemy) HQ rates compare with others who have had their shield longer"
You can get a rough estimate +/- a % or few. But, +- a % or few is the difference between 5% and 11% on your T0s(pretending a few = 3). Not exactly meaningful.
To distinguish down to a single % with any reliability, you'd need thousands of samples.
The rough estimate of stdev for a binary occurance is:
p = success/total
estimate = sqrt((p * (1-p))/total)
Sub in numbers for your T0 sample:
p = 12/151
p = 0.07947019867549668874172185430464
estimate = sqrt((0.07947019867549668874172185430464 * (1-0.07947019867549668874172185430464))/151)
estimate = 0.0220106365313768834489440421614
In a standard distribution, 68.2% or a bit over 2/3 of data points fall within 1 stdev. Thus, we're about 2/3 sure that the real number is between 5.75% and 10.15%. That's essentially worthless from an educated standard of observation.
If it were 120/1510, even though the data would show essentially the same thing, we would be about 2/3 sure that the real number is between 7.25% and 8.6%, still a range of higher than 1% in the first stdev, but much more respectable.
To distinguish down to a single % with any reliability, you'd need thousands of samples.
The rough estimate of stdev for a binary occurance is:
p = success/total
estimate = sqrt((p * (1-p))/total)
Sub in numbers for your T0 sample:
p = 12/151
p = 0.07947019867549668874172185430464
estimate = sqrt((0.07947019867549668874172185430464 * (1-0.07947019867549668874172185430464))/151)
estimate = 0.0220106365313768834489440421614
In a standard distribution, 68.2% or a bit over 2/3 of data points fall within 1 stdev. Thus, we're about 2/3 sure that the real number is between 5.75% and 10.15%. That's essentially worthless from an educated standard of observation.
If it were 120/1510, even though the data would show essentially the same thing, we would be about 2/3 sure that the real number is between 7.25% and 8.6%, still a range of higher than 1% in the first stdev, but much more respectable.
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Thank you ^. That taught me quite a bit. So, may be better to re-phrase my initial question to, "My sample sizes aren't significant enough yet, would anyone mind sharing their T0, T1, and T2 HQ rates with shield enchantment + rusk + orvail + craftmaster's. I'm especially curious on T0 because I don't think my T0s are accurate whatsoever because I question some of the subcrafts listed @ 70.
There's like something off about the necks. I was discussing this with Deathhaven above and Rajang who both have shields, I have a feeling the subcraft might be closer to 60?
The subcrafts are almost certainly below 60 on both necks and weapons despite the materials used, as results are consistant with T1. Confirming the exact level of weapons' subs would be pretty damn difficult since you'd have to find a completed s4 without subcrafts done as someone mentioned earlier, but necks really shouldn't be that hard to verify if you're having trouble believing it for some reason.
I think someone just threw them up on bg-wiki at 70 for some reason and there's been no motivation to correct it since it increases perceived value and the people synthing them have subs done.
I think someone just threw them up on bg-wiki at 70 for some reason and there's been no motivation to correct it since it increases perceived value and the people synthing them have subs done.
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I agree on the necks, I haven't really seen that many weapon attemps.
I know lunatone has made like 3 +2 necks in less than 10 stacks no shield. If this is true I want to just sign my own thf neck
I know lunatone has made like 3 +2 necks in less than 10 stacks no shield. If this is true I want to just sign my own thf neck
The subcraft is AT least 50, because i got skillup @ 60 -> 60.1
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Still on a streak of 0/82 on weapons atm. Haven’t crafted anything except them, until the streak ends. I still think it’s t1 though, previous to this I was 3/12. Averages catching up I guess.
I'm burning through more twilight crystals than I have guild points. I checked the chests in the starter city consulates, but they only have terra and a couple others. Anywhere that I can buy Twilight crystals with gil instead of GP?
Odin.Cdgreg said: »
I'm burning through more twilight crystals than I have guild points. I checked the chests in the starter city consulates, but they only have terra and a couple others. Anywhere that I can buy Twilight crystals with gil instead of GP?
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