Random Politics & Religion #27

The premise that DACA is legit can only be valid IF the premise that congress is SUPPOSE TO change the law is also valid. Therefore, because congress has not changed the law DACA still needs to be in place.

That premise (congress is suppose to do something about these illegals) is not legitimate.

That's why he won the Primary.

President Trump is not a Republican, he merely beat all their candidates.

There are the Democrats, there are the Republicans, and then there is President Trump. He will do whatever is necessary and doesn't play by any of the currently accepted rules of Politics.

It's like the Red and Blue teams are out on the field playing Baseball, with their supporters cheering in the stands. Suddenly Trump and his team run onto the field and start playing Football (Soccer to Americans) in the middle of the game. The members of both teams scream and holler that it's unfair and that it's not a Football match, Trump doesn't care, the fans start cheering him on and now we're watching a Football match with both Baseball teams sitting in their corners pissed off.

Until you guys grasp that there is a fundamentally different sport happening, you won't understand whats going on today in politics.

This needs to be repeated.

The legitimacy of DACA isn't contingent on anything so... no.

So it's illegitimate then. glad we agree.

As long as Trump continues to accomplish nothing, I don't think anyone on the left cares what sport he is playing. Seems like he has completely given up on repealing Obamacare, which is fine with the rest of America. There isn't going to be a wall, there never was, but the hurricane season has seen to that. Texas is going to need upwards of $200B in disaster relief, and Florida will probably need at least half that. Who knows where Hurricane Jose is going, but just those two relief bills will tie the GOP in knots. Deficit is gonna skyrocket this year. And the Dreamers get to stay.

Oh look, it's this game.

Good article on the Trump - Dem matchup and the GOP reactions.

The Parable of the Scorpion and the Elephant
Why is anyone surprised Trump sold out his allies on the debt ceiling?
US News and World Report

Its long but quite well written.

Best paragraph:

Just think of the alternative. A power hunger woman that would do anything to stay relevant. Example release a book blaming sexism on her epic failure.

Its hilarious that the liveralnmedia machine still thinks its sooo relevant that trump supporters take its never/anti trump tantrums seriously.

I look forward to the upcoming 2018 "what happened" headlones that once again never saw it coming.

I think everyone is looking forward to the GOP being ousted in 2018.

That "we aren't trump" message has resonated so well it's led to the victory of zero special elections so far. Coupling that with the respective "all trump supporters are racists" is sure to bring an electoral massacre in 2018.

Donald Trump doesn't care about DACA people !

So? All of those special elections were in heavy red districts, they shouldn't have even been competitive. Trump sucks that much.

Heavy red districts my ***. Dems set fort knox money on fire to scream out how much Trump sucks and nobody bothered to pay attention. We had a guy assault a reporter and YOU STILL couldn't win. Nobody cares except your own echo chamber, that's how much the left sucks ***.

I can't wait till you wake up in 18 ready to slit your wrists because you never saw any of it coming YET AGAIN.

Get out of the bubble Vic.

Nah, keep trying tho. Pretty sure all of those districts had been red for 20+ years. All of them took place in longtime red states, they aren't a barometer of anything. Nobody on the left is worried about '18 or '20, especially given the trajectory of nothing that the GOP and Trump are on. No accomplishments.

LMAO

The "red v blue" rules of general elections are not comparable to the ones in special elections. The turnout model is different, the timeline is different, the campaign is different.

Truly, sincerely, only an idiot would try and apply the same sets of rules to both instances. 90% of the reason people do, is because the echo chamber they're in prevents alternative perspective.

/step up to the podium

Thank you Saevel... and many thanks to the global cadre of evil for letting me deliver this definitive statement on one donald j. trump... /clears throat


President Donald Trump is a AMERICAN TELEVISION GAME SHOW HOST
/waits while that sinks in

no offense to Bob Barker or Chuck Woolery and company. but sadly they are probably also not qualified to be the president either... And neither was obama for that matter... but we'll get back to that one in a minute...or quite frankly a lot of other people who have held the office.

MY FELLOW AMERICANS it is each and every single one of us who were of voting age last November's FAULT. No Not One of Us is exempt from the blame it is all ALL of our own fault.

Of course fixing the blame doesn't get us any closer to solving the problem. And the problem is really quite serious. We, the royal we, as in we, all americans, each and every single one of us everywhere...are a bunch of gullible idiots.

We continuously, perpetually, ritualistically fall for it like a pack of blind rubes playing three card monte at a grifter convention... every. stinking. election.

We believe in our hearts and in our minds every lie these candidates tell us. and...Who knows.. maybe they believe the lies themselves... they don't appear to be any brighter than the rest of us.

Political part affiliation doesn't even matter. We believed obama when he said he would fundamentally change washington and we believed trump... Hell we even believed Ross Perot until he started muttering about ninjas attacking his daughter's wedding. Unless we go back to the sovereign rule of a single all powerful monarch NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE ARE IDIOTS and god bless us we really are... just the slowest learners ever. We're the perfect mark and every con man's wet dream because We Want So Very Badly To Believe

It's almost been an entire year now and still Everyone is either wide eyed and hopefully optimistic or horrifically terrified shitting in their nests that some big change is coming on the horizon... We need to stop.
just shop as usual and avoid panic buying

So three things about change 1. Change is happening constantly whether we like it or not 2. It's a coin flip as to whether or not it will be considered good change over the long haul and 3. leave it to a cynical frenchman, Alphonse Karr the more things change, the more they stay the same.

And here is the best part. It doesn't matter. We have had presidents on the grim cusp of brain death and we're still fine...relatively speaking... Not only are you probably never going to see a president except on television but your life isn't going to be seriously impacted by their actions or inaction either.

You're still going to get up every morning, ***shower and shave, go to work like a chump and then come home and complain

I have been listening to it for fifty years. The names of the groups change slightly over time...sometimes it's the 1 percent, sometimes it's pharmadouche, sometimes it's illegal immigrants... My life or X sucks because of Y and probably Z

We'll I've got some goodbad news for you sunshine. Your life is already a hundred billion times better than you deserve. Because as americans we aren't just stupid to the point of easy distraction and as easily deceived as a newborn baby we are also completely unrepentant ***.

SO JUST SHUT THE HELL UP FOR FIVE MINUTES and take a deep breath and a good look around you because we are also some of the dumb luckiest unwarrantedly miserable sons of *** ever to live.

I ate taiwanese seafood in louisville at a restaurant my son found on his cell phone while I was driving 80 miles an hour through kentucky in an air conditioned SUV.... less than a hundred years ago My grandmother grew up without electricity or running water on a farm where she ate whatever food her mother made every day from what they grew or traded for on their weekly horsedrawn buggy ride to church on sunday. So stop complaining.

Chances are pretty good that donald trump isn't the savior or the antichrist that we're all hopefully/fearfully waiting for but it doesn't matter if he is because we're too stupid to notice the difference ANYWAYS.

If we could all just stop cheering at the rally or gloating when he says something dumb on twitter and take a moment to realize
Joseph de Maistre was dead on when he said "Every country has the government it deserves"

We the people deserved this in every sense of the word this is our penance. this is our karmic retribution. this is our fault and this is the bounty of our harvest. We sowed nothing but fear and complaining and bitching and finger pointing at each other and this is our just reward this is our president this is the wages of our sins. this is our cross to bear. At least try to have the dignity to do so in silent reflection.

AMEN

Black Moms Matter.

In other news:

Hurricane Irma 1 - Donald Trump & Richard Branson 0

This is just made up spin. There is a reason almost all appointments come out of states won by the party and districts long held by the party. The special elections are not a barometer for anything, nobody is worried about '18 except for maybe the establishment GOP, and their worry will only increase as the legislative failures continue to mount and Trump continues to spiral out of control.

You are incapable of any perspective that is contrary to the liberal media narrative.

Get some !

Don't lead them as much fone! Nausi can't keep up.

Immigrants I tells ya