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By 2017-08-02 09:10:36
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By Taint 2017-08-02 10:37:25
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It's great for cata.

Att acc wsdmg

It also bumps HP up and you get the full cure which just a bonus on top.

It's also good a tank setup since you can WS and stay over 3k HP.
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By Sylph.Snk 2018-07-31 23:08:45
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I just noticed and double checked but wearing the whole set grants a Regen+1 effect.
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By Pilipinoboi 2019-01-08 21:30:03
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Idled on my Ratri set - can confirm there's no regen +1, just the regain from head 0.5/tic. (+1 Sallet)

On another note, I know a select few people who prefer the full Ratri +1 on Catastrophe or most other Scythe WS' over Ignominy +3 due to the Scythe skill +56 and higher atk value + HP cap. Any thoughts on this or has anyone tested in depth before? How does it actually fare for Cross Reaper/Insurgency/Quietus/Entropy?

Based off of just a simple /checkparam in-game, the following sets yielded the following base stats:

Ratri +1 5/5: 1226 Accuracy & 2208 Attack.
4/5 Ratri +1 with Ignominy +3: 1237 Accuracy & 2195 Attack.

9 acc and 13 atk difference - very, very minor.

WSD numbers remain unchanged at 61.1% WSD+ (excluding Relic bonus and augmented WSD numbers.)

Thing to mention, my WS set is 98% BiS - just missing Eph. Ring. Currently still using Niq+Regal combo. With that being said, wouldn't Ratri +1 5/5 + Eph. Ring theoretically be slightly > Ignominy +3 since the attack and accuracy values drop further without the combo of Regal ring? Yes, all numbers are marginal but I'm trying to find ways to use Ratri breastplate outside of M.Eva set. XD

Thanks!
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By Gruknor 2019-01-08 23:19:43
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A scarlet delirium set would be fun. A heart attack for your healer worth it for the extra dps.
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By Asura.Arnan 2019-01-09 03:39:17
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Personaly I only use 2/5 +1 Ratri for Scythe WS, For fodder mobs 3/5 or 4/5 is fine but I had too many bad experiences getting caught in my WS set on wave 3 dynamis. Lag is so bad on wave 3 it is quite common to get hit hard while still in WS gear and receive a 6k Hexa strike or dancing edge to the face. With the damage we put out now DRK caps enmity so quick. If using DT/PDT on Ambuscade cape and using Sulevia feet you counter most of the damage taken+ from Ratri. I found much better results once doing so
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By geigei 2019-01-09 05:10:41
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Pilipinoboi said: »
WS set is 98% BiS - just missing Eph. Ring
Isnt 93,4% tho?
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By Taint 2019-01-09 07:09:05
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BiS
ItemSet 362699

For situations where Ratri is too risky use this:
ItemSet 364349
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-01-09 15:27:45
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Taint said: »
BiS
ItemSet 362699

For situations where Ratri is too risky use this:
ItemSet 364349


Is it bad I prefer Ratri Body+1> AF+3? I love keeping my max hp return high (At least with the hybrid set I've been playing with), also the meva isn't bad if you get caught with your pants down.

I know it's a toss up either way. AF+3 body will be just fine if you don't already own the +1. I think it comes down to individual preference.

Biggest issue is if you catch eagle eye shot or something.
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By Taint 2019-01-09 18:22:37
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Bad no but your first acc swap will be af3 body and regal ring. As well as having a safe set like my second one. So you’ll still want both.

DRK sacrifices a lot for a meva build when compared to SAM and even WAR. Maybe SE will acknowledge that with emp+3.
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By Felgarr 2019-01-09 21:35:29
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Taint said: »
BiS
ItemSet 362699

For situations where Ratri is too risky use this:
ItemSet 364349

What are the augments on Odyssean hands? Thanks.
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By Asura.Pilipinoboi 2019-01-09 23:08:19
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Felgarr said: »
Taint said: »
BiS
ItemSet 362699

For situations where Ratri is too risky use this:
ItemSet 364349

What are the augments on Odyssean hands? Thanks.

I'd assume it would be similar to the one's you'd use for Torcleaver except get a STR mod vs the VIT. Att/Acc/WSD % goal.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-01-10 00:15:37
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Current set for Torcleaver, I can try integrating things into a Scythe WS set. Mainly the Body and Ring combo as Taint suggested.



ammo="Knobkierrie",
head={ name="Odyssean Helm", augments={'Weapon skill damage +4%','VIT+11','Accuracy+12',}},
body="Ignominy Cuirass +3",
hands={ name="Odyssean Gauntlets", augments={'VIT+3','INT+4','Weapon skill damage +4%','Accuracy+18 Attack+18','Mag. Acc.+19 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+19',}},
legs="Fallen's Flanchard +3",
feet="Sulev. Leggings +2",
neck="Abyssal Beads +2",
waist="Fotia Belt",
left_ear="Ishvara Earring",
right_ear={ name="Moonshade Earring", augments={'Accuracy+4','TP Bonus +250',}},
left_ring="Niqmaddu Ring",
right_ring="Regal Ring",
back={ name="Ankou's Mantle", augments={'VIT+30','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Weapon skill damage +10%',}},
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By Taint 2019-01-10 08:55:41
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Felgarr said: »
Taint said: »
BiS
ItemSet 362699

For situations where Ratri is too risky use this:
ItemSet 364349

What are the augments on Odyssean hands? Thanks.

When I augment WS items I go in this order:

WSdmg 4+
ACC/ATT
Main Stat

If I get a crazy rare combo like STR10 WSdmg5 1acc 1att I keep it and got farm another main item. If I get some like WSdmg5 30acc 30att, I'll keep it and keep augmenting.
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By Sylph.Snk 2019-01-21 23:36:53
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Taint, I have close to this set you have but on the last DM Randomness bewlshit waste of time day I got Valerous Greaves with Accuracy+8 Attack +8 STR+10 and WS Damage+10%. I assume I hit the lottery with that.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-01-22 00:14:04
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It's a gain, but not a massive one. Sulevia Leggings are really nice already. Basically STR-2/ACC-22/ATT-26 in exchange for WSDMG+3/STP+5/Defensive stats
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By Sylph.Snk 2019-01-25 09:58:56
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Asura.Veikur said: »
It's a gain, but not a massive one. Sulevia Leggings are really nice already. Basically STR-2/ACC-22/ATT-26 in exchange for WSDMG+3/STP+5/Defensive stats

Thanks for the clarification on that. I wasn't fully sure.
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By Galkapryme 2019-12-27 00:56:17
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How do we embed our gearsets into here?
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By Asura.Otomis 2021-04-10 14:53:07
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Necro, yes, I know.

Back to the game after many years, a month now. One of my first goals was to upgrade Apoc to 119, which is now complete, aside getting rank R15 obviously, lol.

As I am looking through the new gear I see this Ratri set. BUT, it makes me nervous as my limited experience in higher end content so far tells me a lot of random damage goes out and tanks will not keep infinite hate.

However, as an Apoc user the set seems like a dream come true. Now that we are a few years beyond original post, What are the common beliefs on this gear set? And what is considered best to use for Cata to get aftermath up while filling in with Cross Reaper/Entropy? I am assuming Cross Reaper unless setting up skillchains, than Cata/Entropy.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2021-04-10 15:15:42
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Asura.Otomis said: »
Necro, yes, I know.
However, as an Apoc user the set seems like a dream come true. Now that we are a few years beyond original post, What are the common beliefs on this gear set? And what is considered best to use for Cata to get aftermath up while filling in with Cross Reaper/Entropy? I am assuming Cross Reaper unless setting up skillchains, than Cata/Entropy.


A bit more accurate this way. You'll most likely never/rarely use entropy. It just isn't that great.
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By Asura.Otomis 2021-04-10 15:49:17
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I was wondering about that. Thank you.
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By Taint 2021-04-10 19:23:20
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Entropy plus
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Schere_Earring is one of the benefits of going scythe.

I sold my Ratri besides the feet. One too many deaths while WSing plus the addition of
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Sakpata%27s_Armor_Set
Made ratri less desirable.
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By SimonSes 2021-04-10 19:36:36
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Taint said: »
I sold my Ratri besides the feet. One too many deaths while WSing plus the addition of
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Sakpata%27s_Armor_Set
Made ratri less desirable.

But Ratri hands, legs and head (beside feet) so op for dread spikes >.>
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-04-10 20:45:30
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I dunno. Catastrophe is the one scythe WS I feel safest in still riding 3 or 4 ratri+1 pieces vs other scythe WSs. I used to always go 4/5 ratri+1 (no body) for almost all Scythe WSs, but enough Insurgency or Cross Reapers poorly timed made me develop a secondary "-DT" tier of WS sets, most of which only use 1 piece of ratri+1. I still find the raw performance of that set amazing and hard to give up...but yes, it is a risk and Dead DD's Don't DPS.

I get why people are moving away from it, I really do. But I'm very firmly in the camp of "there are times where its perfectly safe and one should max one's damage". Not all the time, of course- but even a few WSs here and there in full glass cannon mode and the related boost in damage justify it to me.
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By Valefor.Furyspawn 2021-04-10 21:30:58
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One thing to note about the damage taken +% on Ratri is that you can get one-shotted by moves that reduce you to critical HP. I don't know if it's like that on all "Throat Stab"-type moves, but the damage taken +% seems to add on top of the "reduce HP to X%" effect and make it "reduce HP to -X%". This happened to me several times while fighting Indomitable Faaz in Reisenjima when they managed to catch me with a Barreling Smash with Ratri equipped.

I'd be curious to see if anyone else has experienced this as well.
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By Veydal1 2021-04-10 23:51:42
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Valefor.Furyspawn said: »
One thing to note about the damage taken +% on Ratri is that you can get one-shotted by moves that reduce you to critical HP. I don't know if it's like that on all "Throat Stab"-type moves, but the damage taken +% seems to add on top of the "reduce HP to X%" effect and make it "reduce HP to -X%". This happened to me several times while fighting Indomitable Faaz in Reisenjima when they managed to catch me with a Barreling Smash with Ratri equipped.

I'd be curious to see if anyone else has experienced this as well.

This is an extremely good point and is worth highlighting.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2021-04-12 16:29:36
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Taint said: »
Entropy plus
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Schere_Earring is one of the benefits of going scythe.

I sold my Ratri besides the feet. One too many deaths while WSing plus the addition of
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Sakpata%27s_Armor_Set
Made ratri less desirable.

Did you already link your new sets?
I've been heavily debating on doing the same thing and selling off some of the less-appealing pieces.
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