Random Politics & Religion #25

Sessions should not have recused himself. Period, Trump is 100% correct to be upset over it. Sessions caved to the tantrum of what everyone involved admits is a nothing-burger

Till the day i die i will continue to laugh at all these mental gymnastic everyone who cant afford the blow to their egos is doing in order to convince themselves they didnt really lose.

Do elaborate. I most certainly seek enlightenment.

Mueller should recuse himself, for the same reason Sessions did.

How can you be impartial if you are investigating your friend?

Surely a liberal isnt capable of that kind of bias. That's only possible for Trump and his ilk.

They want a World Government, lead by them obviously, along with Global Citizenship. They have wanted this for the better part of the last century and have tried various means to get it, some quite violent.

At first they believed there would be an inevitable world wide socialist revolution that would topple all the capitalist governments as people would identify more with their economic class then with their national, cultural or racial identity and then band together to over-through the minority land owning class. When the revolution happened in Russia they believed it was the beginning of this world socialist movement, yet it was soon obvious that people in the western countries held stronger identities to their nation, culture and race then they did to the poor people in another country. Every since then the left has been chipping away at western capitalistic countries national, cultural and racial identities in an attempt to weaken them to the point where a socialist revolution was possible.

The lefts ultimate goal is the abolishment of capitalism and the institution of a global entity that controls all economies and thus ushers in the Ideal Society where everyone is equal.

Find a leftist that does any of the following
A) Supports ALL national identities
B) Supports ALL cultural identities
C) Supports ALL racial identities
D) Supports capitalism
E) Supports government structures that include people with different ideology beliefs then them
F) Supports open discussion and expression of ideological and religious beliefs radically different then their own
G) Supports the right to active self defense

All those things are barriers to forming a global socialist government with a global state run economy.

My biggest issue with leftists is that many simply identify as left without understanding the endgame of the ideology.

Oooooook.

You guys seem to forget the Left has been familiar with who Trump is, what he does and how he operates for decades. The Left is more concerned with the preservation of law, and democracy. The things it perceives as what makes America great.

"Oh but you care about the law? What about Hillary?" It's great that you guys hold her to a certain standard and expectation. You know what's not great? Not holding Trump who is the current President of the United States to a far lower standard and expectation.

"Oh but he's upending this Liberal Facisim (which is an oxymoron) that is so stifling." Maybe, but he's also upending American Conservatism and it's values and traditions.

"Oh but he's enraging those who harp identity politics rhetoric and the social justice warriors" that is a weak hypocritical excuse. The same people that make this argument are the same people that tell immigrants (legal) that this is America and they need to assimilate and shed their cultural heritage. The Left celebrates cultural diversity. It's always amusing to see people get that notion dead wrong about the "Left". The "Left" aren't New World Order globalists like Saevel wants everyone on this site to believe. If you ask a Lefty they'll tell you that's the Free Market Neo-Cons.

Tl;dr: keep thinking your brother is your enemy and keep on with the pizza.rape.muh Russia.

Right, we are holding him to the same standard as the rest of them.

It's the left who holding him well beyond the standard even Republicans held Clinton to. At least there was evidence of her wrongdoing, the left has no choice but to make ***up all the time...

Only when those laws are ones you like and only when that democracy gets the results you like. Otherwise you ignore those laws and overrule that democracy to achieve your goals.

The current progressive left is only concerned with extending it's power base and removing obstacles to achieving it's final goal. It has been that way since it's inception and will continue being that way until the ideology dies.

Isn't it obvious? Their own authoritarian society.

In this case, thought authoritarian. It would be illegal to think outside the liberal line. You can see evidence of that assertion by our current education systems.

Not saying that conservatives wouldn't want their own authoritative system though.

Some of you might want to consider following the rules you requested from the sites Administrator.

Adding on to previous comments....


A couple things here. One, nobody is being asked to completely shed their cultural heritage to come here, but there has to be the acknowledgement that some cultural elements are flat out incompatible with American values. Generally these are the more extreme elements, but no matter what your home culture is you can't go around honor killing, completely oppressing women, and throwing gays off of buildings in the United States. If you think those things are totes coolsies then we reserve the right to forbid your entrance. Requiring some degree of assimilation isn't racist, it's a sociological necessity. (And heaven help you should you go to some countries such as in the Middle East and pretend you don't have to assimilate.)

Two, generally speaking, the Left celebrates cultural diversity... so long as it supports their cause. If you're a Democrat voter, cultural flaws are ignored or defended. If you're not a Democrat voter, cultural flaws are magnified and cultural virtues are ridiculed.

Mueller is so desperate to find something, he is looking at legal transactions Trump had with private Russian citizens in order to tie Russia and Trump together.

All of these transactions occurred well before Trump even announced that he was running for president, much less actually winning the nomination.

It's sad that it's so obvious that Trump and Russia didn't collude with one another, that Mueller has to go to Alex Jones-level conspiracy theory to investigate Trump.

They like to conflate National identity, cultural identity and racial identity, it helps them generate more hate to fuel their revolution.

The USA is one of the few places in the world where cultural and national identities aren't the same. In most places in the world the same race, religion and culture has lived in the same nation for centuries if not thousands of years. They have become so monocultural that real diversity, and all it's inherent issues, is a huge *** shock, see the Islamic invasion of Europe for a good example. They think that ignoring the issues and putting a media blackout will solve it, yet the internet exists and anyone can record on a camera and upload it for the whole world to see.

You can have multiple cultural and racial identities within a nation but you absolutely can't have multiple national identities. You can't have Mexican immigrants pretending they are still in Mexico, you can't have Pakistani immigrants pretending they are still in Pakistan and you can't have Syrian immigrants pretending they are still in Syria. All three of those things happen with surprising frequency nowadays because the left has preached that America sucks and is inferior to every other nation in the world and that every other nations identity should be respected above our own.

And thats what I mean when i say many leftists have no clue what they are actually supporting. The heads of todays leftist movement push this stuff while simultaneously obfuscating what theyre doing under the illusion of more palatable concerns.

To your point of multiculturalism and "diversity". Cultural marxism is a vehicle of the left designed to specifically dismantle traditional american culture. No in no time or place throughout recorded history, have two or more polar opposite cultures successfully coexisted together on equal footing.

Ever.

The leaders of the movement are promiting the destruction of american culture and disguising it as a promise of utopia. Which is coincidentally what communists have done in order to gain their power.

It's a bit of a stretch and is starting to look like another witch hunt to find *something* to use against him. It might just be Mueller doing due diligence to ensure those financial transactions didn't have anything to do with the 2016 election, which they couldn't of considering the timing. I'm willing to wait and see, Mueller is kind of a legend among legal circles and has worked for both parties in a non-partisan way.

If he really was a non-partisan, he would have never taken up the role of special prosecutor.

His ties with Comey would have automatically disqualified him, since Comey is a key figure in this whole fiction.

These are "anon" leaks to the liberal media.

A) are they true?
B) how can anyone make the case his team is impartial if they are illegally leaking things to the press?

You seem to have forgotten Whitewater, the blue dress, and how Drudge got his start.

Hmm tragic backread

Well several members of his team are known big Hillary supporters and Washington DC is a hyper political place, it would be impossible to find a truly impartial group. Again I don't want to rush to conclusions based on another "Anonymous" leak that might contain a nugget of truth wrapped in ***.

Perfectly understandable explanation is that investigating the Pro-Trump Russian connections leads to a Russian Oligarch that might have ties to the Russian Government. That same Oligarch might of bought or sold property with Trump or entered into some other business transaction or partnership with a Trump owned entity. These things happen all the time, Trump owns companies with financial connections all over the world and Russia is the kind of place where a small number of super wealthy Oligarchs own everything and have connections to corrupt government officials. The FBI team could be just going through those transactions to ensure they are legitimate and that there was no direct connection between candidate Trump and the 2016 election.

The Dems are already out in the middle of no-where land but it's important for any investigation team to turn over every rock if for no other reason then to say they did look and found nothing. If they didn't then the Dems would cry and scream and call foul play.

Now the line that would be crossed is if they did a general open investigation on all Trump related finances without any connection to Russia with the purpose of finding something to charge him with. That is not only out of bounds of the investigation but also unconstitutional. I don't think the guy who was responsible for the Enron investigation is going to be that dumb.

While it wasn't a complete open investigation, Mueller did open an investigation into transactions that had zero to do with Trump's campaign and the Russia investigation.

I highly he will find anything, but I do believe that this fishing exercise is just testing the limits of Mueller's investigation. Somebody needs to slap him down to size.

Well like I said there could easily be a connection involving some Russian Oligarch that he had some previous business deals with.

Think about it, how many people have you ever had business dealings with in your profession? If one of those entities came under investigation and your name came up as a service provider, they would be within their rights to look into you, even if you had done absolutely nothing wrong, just to be sure.

That is why I don't jump to conclusions whenever I hear someone's being investigated. The media likes to paint people as already guilty by using the word "investigation" which in reality those things happen quite frequently.

Unless, of course, your last name is Clinton.

Then you are just innocent and it's all a witch hunt!

With the number clients I have and who they are, I could personally be swept up in the "Russian investigation" just by the 3rd-4th degree "Kevin Bacon" scenario.

I mean, I have dealt with a lot of land owners all over the country. In this fishing expedition, I might be the one who gets hooked.