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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 14:20:40
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So what are these rust belt victories again?


Gawd man, keep up!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-19 14:45:36
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So what are these rust belt victories again?

Mainly destroying a lot of burdensome regulations. To a lesser extent, you have a lot of companies promising to invest more heavily in manufacturing, creating a bunch of jobs to go along with it. And you've got high levels of optimism in the small business and manufacturing markets which also encourage economic growth and job creation.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-19 14:49:12
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But crap, I forgot. The country is automatically in death spiral because Trump is president. All things bad are his fault, and all things good are attributable to Obama, King of Presidents. Heil Obama!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-07-19 14:49:55
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So what are these rust belt victories again?

Lay offs and Steel Tariffs?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-07-19 14:52:04
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Unidentified deregulation, promises and optimism... yikes.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:00:47
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Candlejack said: »
Bigoted, arrogant, mentality of a whiny two year old spoiled child who rages when he can't have his way. Type of guy you just want to shoot in the head.
You just described every liberal in existence. You included.

Good job!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:01:35
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Unidentified deregulation

Like allowing to dump coal mines waste in water streams. MAGA!
Is that what CNN is pushing now?
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 15:06:04
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Liberals in congress are screaming that republicans just cant pass anything, somehow just hoping I guess no one points out they all have agency as to if legislation passes in congress or not.

This is unreal, we are living in the twilight zone. Thank god for Trump and his tweets!
The republican party is incapable of passing anything save gas. This despite owning the house, the senate, the presidency, and eliminating the filibuster. They have been the party of HELL NO for so long they have forgotten how to say yes even on their own priorities.

And how many bills can be passed with tweets?

Personally I like it. The republican agenda is stalled and the tweets make for amusement.

Technically they have not eliminated the filibuster from legislative debate. (Though they should)

Libs passed this monster. They didnt even read the bill, and after years of republicans warning everyone of its looming disaster, the libs proclaim to all vote to keep it in place instead of repealing and replacing it yet insist they somehow have no agency in That choice.

Only in the media bubble does the news / spin machine make this anything other than "cyanide level" poisonous for rhe democratic party. For the cucks/rinos in the GOP, if they dont get in line thwy will get slaughtered in their primaries next year.
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 15:09:58
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Unidentified deregulation, promises and optimism... yikes.

Optimism alone (aka having a america first mindset) has done wonders for the market since he was elected. He has deregulated the executive agencies (and continues to do so). Again all one has to do is look at the Stock market to see the effect attitude has on he economy.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 15:10:19
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Fear mongering at its finest.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:28:19
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Nausi said: »
Technically they have not eliminated the filibuster from legislative debate. (Though they should)
Not really.

Power swings, and while the Republicans hold a majority in Congress, one day, we all may be up ***creek without a paddle and the liberals/democrats will hold power again. The filibuster is one of the few tools that the Senate minority holds.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:29:24
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Fear mongering at its finest.
Wouldn't want to step on any media outlet's toes, right?

Only they have the rights to fear mongering! And fear profiteering/pandering! It's a useful tool for the weak minded.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 15:32:44
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Fear mongering at its finest.
It's a useful tool for the weak minded.

Must be why Trump relies on it so much, like today for example. Instead of offering a clear path forward, or a plan of any kind, he threatened a senator and backpedaled on his repeal only rhetoric.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:35:50
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Viciouss said: »
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Fear mongering at its finest.
It's a useful tool for the weak minded.

Must be why Trump relies on it so much, like today for example. Instead of offering a clear path forward, or a plan of any kind, he threatened a senator and backpedaled on his repeal only rhetoric.
Not going to deny you that.

However, you must not deny that this tool is well used on both sides of the aisle. Don't you agree?

Doesn't matter who you think uses it the most, that's irrelevant. Do you agree that both sides use it, and use it extensively?
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 15:40:35
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I don't deny that both sides like to use doomsday scenarios, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. He is the biggest liability in Washington right now, and the health care episode reflects that. The Senate wanted no part of him for the last month, and they still don't. He is on the verge of being a lame duck before 2017 even ends.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:44:21
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I don't deny that both sides like to use doomsday scenarios, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level.
No he hasn't. Media and the liberals in Congress has taken it just as much, if not in greater intensity, than what Trump has done.

I will give you that both sides have ramped up the rhetoric, but to say or even infer that this is a Trump-only issue is clearly showing your bias. Your blinders are showing.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 15:50:17
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Both sides might have ramped up the rhetoric, but have you ever seen a Dem threaten another Dem on camera like we say today with Trump and Heller? And the fact that its the President, who is supposed to be the de facto leader of their politcal party, in my mind, takes it to a new level. Heller is vulnerable, Trump is supposed to HELP him get re-elected, not run a Super PAC ad out there against him, and not threaten him in front of WH cameras.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 15:59:13
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Both sides might have ramped up the rhetoric, but have you ever seen a Dem threaten another Dem on camera like we say today with Trump and Heller?
No, because we all know that party loyalty trumps everything else, even common sense, among the liberals/democrats of today. Can't help it if you guys are all mindless sheep now.

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And the fact that its the President, who is supposed to be the de facto leader of their politcal party, in my mind, takes it to a new level. Heller is vulnerable, Trump is supposed to HELP him get re-elected, not run a Super PAC ad out there against him, and not threaten him in front of WH cameras.
Doesn't matter. Trump isn't the Republican leader. He's just the guy who won a democratic election....twice. Once in the primaries, second time in the general election.

At least he didn't have to get help from the party when things got tough.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-19 16:06:06
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Unidentified deregulation, promises and optimism... yikes.

You could, you know, spend 12 seconds and identify the regulations if you really wanted. It's okay, though. The view from the hole in the sand works just as well, especially when you need to hide from the 8 years of under 3% economic growth.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-07-19 16:09:07
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You made the claim. Show your own work.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 16:09:51
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He could, but why bother, when we all know you are just going to ignore it anyway.

How's that sand?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 16:26:02
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Candlejack said: »
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I don't deny that both sides like to use doomsday scenarios, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. He is the biggest liability in Washington right now, and the health care episode reflects that. The Senate wanted no part of him for the last month, and they still don't. He is on the verge of being a lame duck before 2017 even ends.
He is also on the verge of impeachment and removal, at the least, before 2017 ends. At most, arrested, charged with, and executed for, treason.
Applying for CNN now, are we?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 16:27:16
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You see Vic, CJ is a prime example of completely destroying your own argument.

Sad part is, he isn't an outspoken fringe group, you see people like him all over the place, protesting because Clinton lost.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-19 16:29:06
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Candlejack said: »
He is also on the verge of impeachment and removal, at the least, before 2017 ends. At most, arrested, charged with, and executed for, treason.

CJ, you were doing so well. Get back on the meds, my man. I can't add any more of your failed predictions to the huge pile you've already built. It's reaching critical mass.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 16:31:41
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He probably can't see you Rav.

Like a coward, he created his own safe space and blocked everyone who has an opinion that differs from himself.

I'm surprised he even sees anyone else's posts to be honest.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-07-19 16:32:11
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He could, but why bother, when we all know you are just going to ignore it anyway.
lol
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 16:34:39
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He probably can't see you Rav.

Like a coward, he created his own safe space and blocked everyone who has an opinion that differs from himself.

I'm surprised he even sees anyone else's posts to be honest.

Sounds like Saevel. Also can we make an agreement to not quote CJ.
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