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By Nausi 2017-07-19 09:51:48
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Vic's getting BTFO-ed everywhere.
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 10:07:01
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Liberals in congress are screaming that republicans just cant pass anything, somehow just hoping I guess no one points out they all have agency as to if legislation passes in congress or not.

This is unreal, we are living in the twilight zone. Thank god for Trump and his tweets!
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 10:09:08
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What, those job numbers that already have beaten what Obama and his administration has posted in the 8 years he was in charge?

Yeah, thats gonna be impossible, Obama inherited an unemployment rate of 10% and lowered it to less than 5%. Nobody is going to do better than that, and Trump isn't even close to doing it. There is no chance Trump adds more jobs than Obama.
Did you just admit that the recession lasted 8 years?

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And its going to keep falling as the baby boomers continue to retire, so what?
Then why is labor participation rate going up now? Well, at least up from the plateau that was Obama's "new normal"

How's that economic growth going again? Oh, right, the opposite direction than it was under Obama's 8 year shitfest term.

Economic growth is uh, doing the exact same? Whats the projection this year? 2.1%? Maybe 2.2? Trump hasn't come close to adding as many jobs as Obama, he is on a slower pace, he just makes up numbers. Notice how you guys moved the goal posts from jobs to labor participation?
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 10:12:30
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Obama was still loosing jobs at this point in his presidency. And loosing them BIGLY.

Vic BTFO-ed again!
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 10:12:54
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Labor participation isn't moving that much either, its pretty much the exact same since 2014.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 10:14:38
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I guess nausi is in troll mode, what else is new?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:16:14
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Whats the projection this year? 2.1%? Maybe 2.2?
That's CNN's projection.

You should know by now not to trust CNN with anything, not even handing you a hanky for your sweet, liberal tears.

BTW, Estimated 3% growth, even with all of Trump's bad rhetoric, is still better than Obama's actual sluggish growth. Although, I wouldn't doubt that actual growth may stay the same when it's all said and done, but at least the perception that it's better than Obama is worth it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:17:17
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Labor participation isn't moving that much either, its pretty much the exact same since 2014.
It's not freefalling like it was during the Obama years though.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:18:36
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Oh, and the above source is from Forbes, who isn't known to be kind toward's Trump's rhetoric. Even then, they still published a projected 3% growth in 2017 due to Trump's winning the election.

Just from Trump winning the election, even with his anti-trade policies.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:20:19
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Also, I'm glad the healthcare bill failed in the Senate.

Better for Obamacare Lite to fail than enacted. Hopefully the Republicans in Congress (especially the Senate) will finally grow some balls and just repeal Obamacare.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:20:42
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5th post claim: Damn it Rooks!
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 10:22:03
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That Forbes article is from September 2016? Maybe something a little more recent?

IMF cuts growth forecast
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 10:22:57
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Obama never had a year above 2.6%

Regan didnt have massive growth until he his passed tax reform. If Trump is flirting with Obamas top just on the idea that government isnt a big regulatory behemoth, tax refirm will be incredible fir this country.
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 10:23:57
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Also, I'm glad the healthcare bill failed in the Senate.

Better for Obamacare Lite to fail than enacted. Hopefully the Republicans in Congress (especially the Senate) will finally grow some balls and just repeal Obamacare.
Time to turn up the heat on those democrats and 3 female Rinos.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 10:24:07
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Sorry, I rather listen to a firm from America telling me how projected growth in America will be, than a foreign body who has an agenda, especially one that is against America's current policies.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-07-19 10:32:31
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On a side note, I just gotta say I love seeing those interviews where college students are asked about things like socialism. They think it's just so great and so fair but can't even begin to explain to the interviewer what it actually is or how it works.
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 10:46:44
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thats what you get when you liberals stay in charge of education for 50+ years.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-07-19 12:40:11
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Nausi said: »
Liberals in congress are screaming that republicans just cant pass anything, somehow just hoping I guess no one points out they all have agency as to if legislation passes in congress or not.

This is unreal, we are living in the twilight zone. Thank god for Trump and his tweets!
The republican party is incapable of passing anything save gas. This despite owning the house, the senate, the presidency, and eliminating the filibuster. They have been the party of HELL NO for so long they have forgotten how to say yes even on their own priorities.

And how many bills can be passed with tweets?

Personally I like it. The republican agenda is stalled and the tweets make for amusement.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 12:48:27
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They haven't eliminated the filibuster for passing legislation, they simply have not brought anything to the floor to be voted on.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 13:37:43
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I see you creationism and raise you today's colleges.

Hey, don't go back to your safe space! There's no coloring books in the real world! Unless, of course, you work in a university.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 13:40:52
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Almost feel bad for Dean Heller, I bet thats the last time he visits the WH.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 13:41:42
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Democrats Will Soon Regret That Republicans Failed To Repeal ObamaCare

Sources are bad unless they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Health Reform: There were lots of celebrations on the left side of the aisle after the Senate GOP bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare died. The good times will be short lived, because one way or another ObamaCare is going away, and it's not at all clear that Democrats will gain additional leverage over what comes next by waiting for its collapse.

It was amusing to hear Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer say, after the Senate bill failed, that Republicans should "work with Democrats on a bill that lowers premiums, provides long-term stability to the markets and improves our health care system."

Lower premiums, stabilize insurance markets, improve health care? Wasn't that what ObamaCare was supposed to do in the first place?

While Schumer and company were busy calling Republicans mass murderers, here's what was actually happening with ObamaCare.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services reports that the number of insurers applying to participate in ObamaCare exchanges next year plunged by 38% compared with last year, and is half what it was in 2016.
CMS also reported that 40 counties in Indiana, Ohio and Nevada are at risk of having zero insurance companies in their ObamaCare exchanges next year. The Kaiser Family Foundation put the number of at-risk counties at 38.
In addition, CMS reported that 2.4 million enrollees in 40% of the nation's counties will have just one insurance company in their area.
The average increase in premiums next year for a Silver plan in eight states will be 18%, according to Avalere. One of the last ObamaCare insurers in Iowa has put in for a 43.5% hike. In Washington state, the average boost is 22%. In Tennessee, the proposed rate hikes range from 21% to 42%. And so on.
As we noted before in this space, these insurance defections and gargantuan rate hikes have nothing to do with the Republican's repeal effort, but with the continued deterioration of the ObamaCare markets.
States are also starting to struggle with the costs of ObamaCare's "free" Medicaid expansion. A report from the National Association of State Budget Offices said that the expansion will cost states nearly $9 billion next year, more than twice what it cost in 2016.
CMS reports that the per capita costs of the Medicaid expansion are 50% higher than expected.
Arkansas scaled back its Medicaid expansion in May, and Ohio lawmakers voted in June to freeze the expansion in that state. Oregon's Medicaid expansion contributed a $1.6 billion gap in the state's budget. In California, the Medicaid expansion will cost the state $1.3 billion this year, putting additional strain on the state's budget.
As economist Herbert Stein once put it, if something can't go on forever, it won't.

That's the reality facing ObamaCare. And it's one Democrats have so far been able to avoid by focusing the public's ire on the fumbling GOP efforts to come up with a replacement plan.

But with repeal-and-replace now off the table, all we have left is the self-destructing ObamaCare. Don't be surprised if ObamaCare's popularity suddenly nose-dives again.

So the GOP's answer to Schumer should be: You had your chance to fix health care. You blew it. Twice. First when you passed ObamaCare, and second when you refused to admit that mistake and decided to cast Republicans as evil. Why should the GOP reward you with a third?

Plus, as the ObamaCare exchanges continue to crumble and as more states chafe at Medicaid's costs, it will be easier for Republicans to get what they want on their own — if Republicans are smart enough to seize the opportunity, that is.
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By Viciouss 2017-07-19 13:48:03
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I guess those bloggers didnt hear its a new day, and Trump is back on repeal and replace. Maybe tomorrow he will be back on just repeal? Who knows?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-07-19 13:51:02
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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I see you creationism and raise you today's colleges.

There has always been a large portion of idiots in colleges, there is just more people who can afford going to college now.
And also idiots to teach them. Because, honestly, they can't get a job in the private sector.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
 
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By Nausi 2017-07-19 14:01:02
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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thats what you get when you liberals stay in charge of education for 50+ years.

How many genders are there again?
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-07-19 14:16:29
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So what are these rust belt victories again?
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