Random Politics & Religion #25

If you attempt to break the law, but fail, you are innocent and free to go.

On the border wall:

One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can't see through that wall - so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what's on the other side of the wall.
And I'll give you an example. As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them - they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over. As crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall. But we have some incredible designs.

You obviously missed out Akson's posts as of late:

Im done w/ this >_<

Hear that everybody? If you attempt to break the law, but fail, you are innocent and free to go. The drug dealer is really a cop? Since I didn't actually buy drugs, I didn't do anything wrong. Same with the hooker. Don't leave the bank with any money, don't go to jail. Shoot at somebody and miss? Attempted murder isn't a thing anymore.

Man, this makes the worldview so much easier. You can plan for collusion and conspiracy all you want, but if you don't pull it off, it means nothing.

No law was broken or even attempted.

Supporting Trump isn't against the law no matter how much you want it to be. Why don't you go join Antifi, you share a common religion.

Politics is war. The objective is to win and take down the opponent. In an industry that does not operate in the black and white, it is often the grey territory in which campaigns work to achieve their goal.

In the middle of this fast-paced environment, the reality is that most people would have taken the meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian attorney whose meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and other senior Trump campaign staff has set Washington on edge.

The worst is that many of the people expressing righteous indignation have no reason to be self-righteous. Robby Mook, the former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton, is the worst offender. Soaking up the opportunity to get television time, Mook has been everywhere criticizing the Trump team. But he worked for a woman who might be president today, but for her complete lack of a moral compass.

Clinton's scandals — her use of a private email server to thwart transparency laws, her deletion of tens of thousands of emails, the sale of access to her office to Clinton Foundation donors — these things are well known. Perhaps it's less well known, as the International Business Times reported, that arms sales to countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation increased by 143 percent.

More to the point, as Politico reported, the Ukrainian government tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by disseminating documents implicating Paul Manafort in corruption. They also reportedly helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisors. Is it wrong to seek foreign governments' help in digging up dirt on an opponent, or isn't it?

The Obama administration likewise has no high horse to sit on. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch is facing bipartisan inquiries about allegations she interfered in the Hillary Clinton email probe. President Barack Obama's IRS targeted conservative groups that had words like "tea" and "patriot" in their names, possibly in order to interfere in grassroots election organizing. We were also lied to about things like the Iran deal, and the payment of $1.7 billion in cash to that nation's terrorism-sponsoring regime.

Susan Rice, a former Obama national security adviser, will face congressional inquiry over the monitoring and unmasking of Trump team members in foreign survellance. And, of course, a congressional investigation found that Obama's State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer grants to an Israeli group that used the money to try and oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The media are also full of it. The New York Times executive editor said during a visit to Harvard last September that he would risk jail time to publish President Trump's tax returns. CNN wanted so badly to damage President Trump that they moved on a story that they couldn't source, resulting in the firing of three employees.

To be clear, none of this is okay. This isn't an effort to justify Donald Jr.'s decisions. But politics is a dirty industry. Many of the people criticizing him have spent plenty of time playing in the mud. They could at least wipe themselves off before handing down hypocritical moral judgments on others.

Spare me your Donald Jr. indignation

Lol, everyone is corrupt so wah wah leave us alone. What whiny drivel.

No one is being convicted. What are you even talking about?

Lol, everyone is corrupt so wah wah leave us alone. What whiny drivel.

Either convict every politician for high treason, or convict none.

Thisis not remotely close to how any of this works. 'Everyone breaks the law therefore no one breaks it' ranks up there in persuasiveness as the Chewbacca defense.

You don't understans Pleebs, every democrat is guilty until proven innocent and every republican is totally innocent.

decrying

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Anyway, this entire conversation is a deflection. Go on and investigate Clinton, Obama, or whoever else isn't the president. It's not going to stop the Russia probe.

Looking like there are legitimate reports that Lynch tapped manaforts phone during the Jr meeting. This was before any FISA warrant that we know of had been issued.

Oh gee, you don't like it that way?

Then stop decrying "collusion" "solicitation" "treason" and other *** every time a nothingburger is served up by CNN.

We knew of one fuled in june and one filed in october. The june one was denied. Looking like Lynch tapped the phone anyways.

Remember the heat st article indicating two fisa warrants had been sought.