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They're on Valefor, 18 man BST alliance flee hacking and killing mandragora in Yahse all day everyday.
On Quetz they even hang out in Western Adoulin when buying/selling sparks/unity. 'Cuz having 12-15 Anon Drgs with randomly lettered names isn't suspicious at all.
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I'm sorry, why prize powders? All the items are converted 1 gil to 10 accos, so why not just do most expensive items (shield) and fill powders for the 2k accos left over if you want to trade 99k?
Anyways reforge items from craft guilds is nice absorb mechanism from SE, people making more and more ultimate weapons, density of population in each server all contribute to economy beeing somewhat stable. And heck, who still buys gil in these days? Pankas said: » I'm sorry, why prize powders? All the items are converted 1 gil to 10 accos, so why not just do most expensive items (shield) and fill powders for the 2k accos left over if you want to trade 99k? Anyways reforge items from craft guilds is nice absorb mechanism from SE, people making more and more ultimate weapons, density of population in each server all contribute to economy beeing somewhat stable. And heck, who still buys gil in these days? 99,999 accolades in prize powder is about 1.5mil. So it's the other way around. Shields come from sparks, not accolades. So you get both sparks and accolades capped and you get like 3m. Offline
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Yea, sorry i always mix them 2 together. Well guess when i get bored getting ***from gob keys i look into that. but it looks painfully boring procedure, unless you script things i guess.
Asura.Arico said: » Pankas said: » I'm sorry, why prize powders? All the items are converted 1 gil to 10 accos, so why not just do most expensive items (shield) and fill powders for the 2k accos left over if you want to trade 99k? Anyways reforge items from craft guilds is nice absorb mechanism from SE, people making more and more ultimate weapons, density of population in each server all contribute to economy beeing somewhat stable. And heck, who still buys gil in these days? 99,999 accolades in prize powder is about 1.5mil. So it's the other way around. Shields come from sparks, not accolades. So you get both sparks and accolades capped and you get like 3m. Capped Accolades converted to Prize Powder is 999,990 gil, not 1.5mil. 1 prize powder costs 10 Accolades and NPC's for 100 gil in Adoulin. If you NPC it for 102 gil somewhere else, it's only 1,019,989 gil for capped sparks. Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Arico said: » Pankas said: » I'm sorry, why prize powders? All the items are converted 1 gil to 10 accos, so why not just do most expensive items (shield) and fill powders for the 2k accos left over if you want to trade 99k? Anyways reforge items from craft guilds is nice absorb mechanism from SE, people making more and more ultimate weapons, density of population in each server all contribute to economy beeing somewhat stable. And heck, who still buys gil in these days? 99,999 accolades in prize powder is about 1.5mil. So it's the other way around. Shields come from sparks, not accolades. So you get both sparks and accolades capped and you get like 3m. Capped Accolades converted to Prize Powder is 999,990 gil, not 1.5mil. 1 prize powder costs 10 Accolades and NPC's for 100 gil in Adoulin. If you NPC it for 102 gil somewhere else, it's only 1,019,989 gil for capped sparks. *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Offline
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I thought all of Asura was basically a bot army ?
Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Fenrir.Kaldaek
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Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Just because it takes you 3-5 minutes; don't assume it takes everyone that long. Offline
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Someone call the SE police there is something afoot in our beloved game.
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You might not care about the inflation, but you'll care if it sends sparks and accolades the way of cruor. If those numbers are accurate, expect a nerf.
Even with just public tools(bellhop on ashita) you can dump a mil of powders in under 5min. Anyone automated is doing that. Offline
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Asura.Toralin said: » Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Arico said: » Pankas said: » I'm sorry, why prize powders? All the items are converted 1 gil to 10 accos, so why not just do most expensive items (shield) and fill powders for the 2k accos left over if you want to trade 99k? Anyways reforge items from craft guilds is nice absorb mechanism from SE, people making more and more ultimate weapons, density of population in each server all contribute to economy beeing somewhat stable. And heck, who still buys gil in these days? 99,999 accolades in prize powder is about 1.5mil. So it's the other way around. Shields come from sparks, not accolades. So you get both sparks and accolades capped and you get like 3m. Capped Accolades converted to Prize Powder is 999,990 gil, not 1.5mil. 1 prize powder costs 10 Accolades and NPC's for 100 gil in Adoulin. If you NPC it for 102 gil somewhere else, it's only 1,019,989 gil for capped sparks. *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Well can be 2 solutions to the problem, if there is one (just like prostitution) 1. Legalise it and take the cut. 2. Go after those, who buy it (probably harder to implement) Question still stands, who is still buying it? }There is a bot army on Asura. Escha-Zitah south of portal 6. Even if you call for help a mob they target and drag them to the other side of the zone they will run through terrain faster than mount speed back to the opo-opo's camp. Not naming names since 2 are known members of here and bg. But if you go there at any time of any day to that camp you will see. And I have reported it multiple times and talked to GM in game but whatever.
I don't think they will nerf sparks. The gil coming in from them is deliberate and they have even made efforts to maintain the system. The last update to Eternal Flame made it easier to mass buy items for vanilla players.
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Why would they get rid of people paying subscriptions...from a business standpoint that doesn't make sense.
Every online game in existence has cheating. They only crack down on it to make it appear like they care. At the end of the day there is a level of tolerance to it. Fenrir.Kaldaek said: » Just because it takes you 3-5 minutes; don't assume it takes everyone that long. Did you just assume my vendor?? Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Offline
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Asura.Toralin said: » Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Fenrir.Kaldaek
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Justuas said: » Asura.Toralin said: » Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » Even with just public tools(bellhop on ashita) you can dump a mil of powders in under 5min. Anyone automated is doing that. Is there a windower alternative? Asking for a friend who always get stupid keys during gain exp and doesn't get jackshit Frankly the impact of this is no big deal.
these bot armies are doing a pretty good job of staying out of most players way. and that's a smart long term strategy. There are ppl buying gil, and SE has pretty much held inflation down by making ingredients for upgrade items so expensive and only obtained by buying from npcs. Its the same for how they controlling the sources for gil, as mentioned in here, mostly sparks/accolade farming. SE has enough control over the in game economy w/ those 2 things. They are controlling both supply and demand. This kind of Gilfarming/selling does not hurt the game balance. and SE is getting their cut in the extra subscriptions to run a bot army. as long as they are not breaking the game, I think SE gonna tolerate it. Justuas said: » Asura.Toralin said: » Asura.Inuyushi said: » Asura.Toralin said: » *18 = 18m, how many times a day? 10x? so 180m a day aint that bad . = 5.4billion gil a month * 1.50 (brogame price) = $8,100 a month - $234 (18*13) subscruption fee = $7,866 * 4 servers? = $31,464 per month. There should be no mystery or shock as to why this is being done. Lol so true. But it takes about 3~5 minutes to sell 80 stacks of prize powder. To dump that 10.42 times (99,999 / 9,600) takes 52 minutes. Is the hour spent making 1 mil worth the time lost capping another round of sparks? I would bet it would be much more worthwhile to either dump the 90k sparks into 9 Unity items or 9 Gobbikeys and hope for something worthwhile. Asura.Kilorilo said: » Asura.Hotworks said: » }There is a bot army on Asura. Escha-Zitah south of portal 6. Even if you call for help a mob they target and drag them to the other side of the zone they will run through terrain faster than mount speed back to the opo-opo's camp. Not naming names since 2 are known members of here and bg. But if you go there at any time of any day to that camp you will see. And I have reported it multiple times and talked to GM in game but whatever. These people are hilarious. Same people there pretty much 24/7, very blatant botting. Last time I checked there was a party a both the monkey areas botting. The owner must be reading this, because I just ran there and did see antyyhing Offline
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Asura.Toralin said: » Asura.Kilorilo said: » Asura.Hotworks said: » }There is a bot army on Asura. Escha-Zitah south of portal 6. Even if you call for help a mob they target and drag them to the other side of the zone they will run through terrain faster than mount speed back to the opo-opo's camp. Not naming names since 2 are known members of here and bg. But if you go there at any time of any day to that camp you will see. And I have reported it multiple times and talked to GM in game but whatever. These people are hilarious. Same people there pretty much 24/7, very blatant botting. Last time I checked there was a party a both the monkey areas botting. The owner must be reading this, because I just ran there and did see antyyhing I called the SE police and had them arrested. |
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