Random Politics & Religion #19

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When you own land, you often own the rights to minerals, oil, or metals beneath it. Do you also own the right to virtual or mixed reality creations on it? And do you have the legal ability to legislate their use or positioning over virtual representations of your property?

That’s what Milwaukee County appears to be saying.

The county beside Lake Michigan has passed an ordinance requiring companies creating virtual or mixed reality creations in apps to get a permit to locate them in the real world. Niantic, the company behind Pokémon Go, would have to pay between $100 and $1,000 in order to assign Pokéstops inside public parks, for instance, and to allow the game’s creatures to roam there.

This is an interesting precedent.

Actual property can be owned, of course, and virtual property can be as well. Second Life, for instance, is in its second decade of selling virtual property, and it’s moving into VR. But mixed or augmented reality is a new kettle of fish.

Augmented reality is a virtual overlay on actual reality, painting digital objects over analog backgrounds. The digital objects — whether monsters in a game, tools in a Microsoft Hololens, or directions on a real-time mapping systems — don’t impinge on “reality” in any way.

However, they do have impacts.

The county has had an influx of mobile game players who, it says, added traffic, left trash, potentially affected ecologically sensitive dunes, and cost the sheriff’s department extra due to required security.

On the one hand, public spaces are public, and people have a right to go there. On the other hand, the digital world is having an increasing impact on the physical world. Ask the neighborhood restaurant that was flooded with foodies after the Michelin Guide — the gourmet’s bible — mistakenly awarded it a Michelin star.

The state of Illinois is apparently considering a similar statute, so this appears to be something the mobile games industry — and perhaps the entire mobile and mixed-reality community — will have to deal with.

The result could be chaos and gridlock, as mixed reality and augmented reality seek ways to get permits for thousands of global locales and legislative areas.

And the costs could cripple a still-young industry.

He did not. It was handed to him by the Supremes.

Don't overlook the fact that his brother was governor of Florida which could have or may not have played a factor.

No, it was handed to him by the people.

More specifically, by the people in Florida.

The final tally was:

B: 2,912,790
G: 2,912,253

In a winner-take-all contest, that gave Bush the 25 EC votes he needed. All the Supreme Court did was to tell the detractors to shut up and moveon.org.

Bush won. Get over it.

OK, this is about as random as politics gets.


Milwaukee County requires Pokémon Go and AR/VR games to get land use permits
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I should probably repost this under Pokemon Go in Arcade.

And I'm sure that's how you would have reacted if it had been the other way... mhm...

it's supposed to keep em honest and let's be real here most politicians regardless of political afilliation has an issue with honesty...

Right now it just all seems like people are focusing on whatever they want to hear...

Actually, yes I would have. Given that the events took place 16 years ago, given my personality, I would have moved passed that part a long time ago.

Case in point: I never once claimed that Obama shouldn't have been elected. I got over the fact that he was, and only attacked him on his policies/administration.

What I want to know King is if I kill someone in VR do I go to a virtual court to stand trial ?

Most? Try all.

Right now? Try "Since the Dawn of Time"

I don't know.

Let's experiment!

Sav is the one that brought it up..

it was controversial at the time... wasn't that another one where he lost the popular vote too?

In any case I thought you were referencing it at the time it happened...

I think of intangible property as like my house in XIV or the land in Second Life.

What we have here is a game played in RL locations. Which might just be able to be permitted and therefore become a revenue source for a county, state, or municipality. To me, that it is an augmented reality game is immaterial (pun accidental but noted.)

I have to reserve, and pay for picnic tables and game facilities in parks. I can also use them for free on an as available basis, the payment is for the reservation around here not for use.

Public camping spots in parks, I pay for use.

Not all... there are some decent politicians out there...

Not really on that either... for the most part throughout history people were more focused on just surviving...

You got to post obscure anime to make him appear !

Sorry chaps, I know you're trying to attract Kojo but all you caught was a Meshi. Sad day for all. Anyway, pic is bordering on attracting the wrath of the Google overlords so I had to save it for later destroy it for the good of all.

I can name a bunch of decent politicians....wait...check back with me later !