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By Viciouss 2017-02-17 19:57:41
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Air Cushioned Vehicles? Like Hoverboats? Freakin Canadians. Why don't we just invade.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-17 20:07:56
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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I guess you just count on the American Navy to protect you -.-
Protect everyone, I mean, isn't that what we are, World Police?

FUCK YEAH

Unpaid world police. Everyone *** and moans about US military action while simultaneously slashing their defense budgets to the smallest possible while just assuming if anything happens "the US will take care of it".
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-17 20:46:25
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Josiahkf said: »
The one thing that bothers me the most about the point Saeval and Trump are making is the hypocrisy of so many countries, including my own.

All us Nato countries signed in agreement that we would all provide 2% of our gross domestic products towards defensive.

We all have failed the United States.

Yes we'll all of y'alls 2% is not the same as our 2%.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-17 21:01:24
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Can somebody please send out a destroyer to chase off this Russian rustbucket hanging out on our coastline. Its an eyesore.
Its in international waters.

This doesn't mean it can't have an "accident" but we don't seem able to pull those off. Not under any administration since LBJ's.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-17 21:04:32
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Yes we'll all of y'alls 2% is not the same as our 2%.

It's a lot more then 2%, the US pays a ridiculous amount of it's GDP vs other nations, not just NATO but also the UN while those same nations reap the benefit from that. By itself it wouldn't be a big deal since that was the agreement during the Cold War, but then those same countries get all indignant at the US and start criticizing it, while still accepting that kind of subsidization. USA spends over 3% of it's GDP and nearly a third of it's national budget on Defense, that's a *** ton of Cheddar to be throwing out there and it's not necessary if the USA takes less of an interest in world defense. That's a lot of money that could fund social programs, which is exactly what all those European Socialist countries do.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-17 21:11:03
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The USA has but one operational icebreaker.

We have ceded the arctic ocean to Russia which has at least 14 icebreakers, 4 of them nuclear powered.

But hey, can't raise taxes yaknow....

This is a bipartisan effort.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-17 21:16:24
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They have 15 other vessels with "significant icebreaking capabilities."

We haven't one.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-17 21:25:37
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
They have 15 other vessels with "significant icebreaking capabilities."

We haven't one.
And when the glaciers melt, that will make Russia look stupid, paying for and maintaining all those icebreakers and never using them!

+ for Global Warming!
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By fonewear 2017-02-17 21:29:01
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They have 15 other vessels with "significant icebreaking capabilities."

We haven't one.

I always just offer people ice breakers gum...
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By fonewear 2017-02-17 21:31:09
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Cheer up Donny this place wouldn't be the same without you !
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By fonewear 2017-02-17 21:32:15
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Meanwhile how I spend most nights:

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By fonewear 2017-02-17 21:39:55
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Mr. Fonewear this is a gaming website meeting
Is it? Or is it that you girls can't admit that you have a problem

I'll admit I have a problem with girl scout cookies !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-17 23:14:14
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State Dept. carries out layoffs under Rex Tillerson
CBSN (WTF is CBSN?)

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While Rex Tillerson is on his first overseas trip as Secretary of State, his aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday.

Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed.

These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy.

There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats.

Not a single State Department official was included in the White House meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner - who has no regional expertise or diplomatic experience - had a greater role in the meeting than the Senate-confirmed secretary of State....
Lots more in that artivle
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By fonewear 2017-02-18 07:53:27
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State Dept has a long and storied history of deleting e-mails...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-02-18 08:04:55
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Welp Italy is ***.
For thos who followed my ramblings about italian politics(so no one), they might remember there was a risk of splitting in the Democratic Party and now it's officially happening. This all because of Renzi, may he burn in hell.
The result will be that the 5 Stars Movement will now win elections in a landslide and destroy Italy, Europe, and why not the world!
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By fonewear 2017-02-18 08:05:39
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Welp Italy is ***.
For thos who followed my ramblings about italian politics(so no one), they might remember there was a risk of splitting in the Democratic Party and now it's officially happening. This all because of Renzi, may he burn in hell.
The result will be that the 5 Stars Movement will now win elections in a landslide and destroy Italy, Europe, and why not the world!

You've done enough with Italian cuisine to make up for it !
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By Jassik 2017-02-18 09:26:54
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Plenty of NATO countries haven't held up their part of the deal, but you never publicly put into question whether we would honor our agreement if they were invaded. You have those conversations 1 on 1 over a secured line. GHW Bush made a public comment about Kuwait and a year later Iraq invaded.

I really think there needs to be some normalization of dollars, too.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-18 09:38:07
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Kremlin Tells Media to Cut Back on Fawning Trump Coverage, Sources Say

Order comes as hopes fade for improved relations with U.S.
Trump was garnering more media mentions in Russia than Putin

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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-18 09:54:24
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Looks like Trump is removing anyone might be loyal to the Democrats from positions where they could do harm. Expect a lot of staff in in the Executive branch to be removed and replaced, especially anyone Hillary or Obama hired.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-02-18 10:16:23
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Jassik said: »
I really think there needs to be some normalization of dollars, too.
Would you mind explaining more specifically what you mean by this sentence?
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By Jassik 2017-02-18 10:24:53
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I really think there needs to be some normalization of dollars, too.
Would you mind explaining more specifically what you mean by this sentence?

Simple, the relative economies of countries and currencies varies a ton, and costs for a lot of things are fixed. The other reason I would like to see normalization is that a country can call just about anything military spending or cook the books to inflate costs.

Too much variability in an already unbalanced metric.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-18 11:04:23
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
CBSN (WTF is CBSN?)
CBS "News"

Gawd Chanti.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-18 11:08:29
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Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
I really think there needs to be some normalization of dollars, too.
Would you mind explaining more specifically what you mean by this sentence?

Simple, the relative economies of countries and currencies varies a ton, and costs for a lot of things are fixed. The other reason I would like to see normalization is that a country can call just about anything military spending or cook the books to inflate costs.

Too much variability in an already unbalanced metric.
A lot of international businesses use specific accounts for fluctuation of foreign currencies. It's always a nightmare for us accountants.

It's also a reason why businesses don't repatriate profits (they are waiting for the "right" time to do so). That, and some countries actually forbid foreign companies from repatriating profits to their home countries (France is one, Switzerland, and China are those who I can think of off the top of my head).
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-18 11:10:21
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Welp Italy is ***.
For thos who followed my ramblings about italian politics(so no one), they might remember there was a risk of splitting in the Democratic Party and now it's officially happening. This all because of Renzi, may he burn in hell.
The result will be that the 5 Stars Movement will now win elections in a landslide and destroy Italy, Europe, and why not the world!
Every time I see a post like this, I always am reminded of this:



We should probably start naming those posts "Chicken Little" posts.
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By Jassik 2017-02-18 11:38:24
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jassik said: »
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Jassik said: »
I really think there needs to be some normalization of dollars, too.
Would you mind explaining more specifically what you mean by this sentence?

Simple, the relative economies of countries and currencies varies a ton, and costs for a lot of things are fixed. The other reason I would like to see normalization is that a country can call just about anything military spending or cook the books to inflate costs.

Too much variability in an already unbalanced metric.
A lot of international businesses use specific accounts for fluctuation of foreign currencies. It's always a nightmare for us accountants.

I'm thinking more along the lines of things that aircraft that are bought from us. I'm not honestly sure if they pay the same price for them that we do, I kind of doubt it. If they don't, it means our dollars go further for the same things. So, a country could spend the target percent of GDP and get less for it. We might also pay significantly more due to government contracts for things that other states produce themselves, making it look like they're underspending. It's hard to compare so many variables at once and come up with a number that paints the whole picture. All I see are bar-graphs, and it would be surprising if much of that information was publicly available and trustworthy given the number of governments involved.
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