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 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-01-28 04:38:37
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Scrubs was a very good show, you're missing out.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-28 11:43:04
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I wonder if the next step is to kick out people with valid visas within the country.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-28 12:30:45
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Rav, we will be hearing that and much more in the next 4 years.

They coming to take away our guns citizenship!
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-01-28 12:41:35
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-01-28 13:04:07
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I wonder how long stale the Hitler comparisons are gonna get before he left throws them out and tries something new.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-28 13:25:00
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I wonder if the next step is to kick out people with valid visas within the country.
They are already holding new arrivals with valid visas at the airports.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I wonder how long stale the Hitler comparisons are gonna get before he left throws them out and tries something new.
Waitafrickingminuet.

The last godwinsim was thrown out by the god emperor himself.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2017-01-28 14:50:32
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I wonder if the next step is to kick out people with valid visas within the country.
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People holding so-called green cards, making them legal permanent U.S. residents, are included in President Donald Trump's executive action temporarily barring people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, a Department of Homeland security spokeswoman said on Saturday.

"It will bar green card holders," Gillian Christensen, acting Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in an email.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-28 15:12:45
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Officials Say Visas Were Being Revoked Prior to Trump’s Executive Order
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President Donald Trump signed an executive order halting refugee admissions and immigration from certain Arab countries on Friday, but federal officials told NBC News that immigration officers may have been stopping and even banning valid visa holders from returning to the country weeks before the official directive.

Two federal officials familiar with the situation confirmed to NBC News that as many as 40 individuals with F1 student visas, many who left the country for winter break, were told their visas were revoked when they returned stateside to resume classes....

... some are advising caution to international students — particularly those from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, and Somalia, the seven countries enumerated by Trump as needing "extreme vetting." ...

However, the students who ran into visa problems are not from the countries listed in Trump's executive order. Instead, they hold passports from places like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Turkey....

Another high-ranking federal official verified to NBC News that there was an abnormal increase in complaints by Middle Eastern students who said they were blindsided with visa revocations after arriving in the United States in the week before Trump order....

"Essentially all valid visas are irrelevant now," the official said. "And they have been before the order." ...
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By fonewear 2017-01-28 16:10:25
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I wonder if the next step is to kick out people with valid visas within the country.

We are going to ban Canadians I don't think they will put up much of a fight !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-28 18:09:10
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Officials Say Visas Were Being Revoked Prior to Trump’s Executive Order
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President Donald Trump signed an executive order halting refugee admissions and immigration from certain Arab countries on Friday, but federal officials told NBC News that immigration officers may have been stopping and even banning valid visa holders from returning to the country weeks before the official directive.

Two federal officials familiar with the situation confirmed to NBC News that as many as 40 individuals with F1 student visas, many who left the country for winter break, were told their visas were revoked when they returned stateside to resume classes....

... some are advising caution to international students — particularly those from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, and Somalia, the seven countries enumerated by Trump as needing "extreme vetting." ...

However, the students who ran into visa problems are not from the countries listed in Trump's executive order. Instead, they hold passports from places like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Turkey....

Another high-ranking federal official verified to NBC News that there was an abnormal increase in complaints by Middle Eastern students who said they were blindsided with visa revocations after arriving in the United States in the week before Trump order....

"Essentially all valid visas are irrelevant now," the official said. "And they have been before the order." ...
Chanti, that is very dishonest reporting. Are you sure you don't work for NYTs or WP?

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Two federal officials familiar with the situation confirmed to NBC News that as many as 40 individuals with F1 student visas, many who left the country for winter break, were told their visas were revoked when they returned stateside to resume classes.

One of the individuals left the country on Jan. 3 and his visa was revoked on Jan. 4, one immigration official confirmed. An official stated that this is highly unusual since the individual had already been put through extensive security vetting prior to his departure.

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It's possible that immigration officials saw the tide turning and preemptively applied polices they were anticipating, the official said.

Individuals stopped at immigration were told they have the option of returning to their country voluntarily or face criminal penalties for violating U.S. law, said another federal official. No other explanation was given as it is not legally required, the official said.

I know you want to dabble in alternative facts (otherwise known as liberal facts), but there's a limit on how far you can stretch the truth.

Of the 2 cases that were reported by your own source, they were both happening during Obama's watch, not Trump's. Also, by your own source, it was happening prior to the executive order being issued, by rouge agents.

In other words, while Trump's EO needs clarification, these were being doing prior to Trump's swearing in and prior to his EO.

Stop lying, or giving out "liberal" facts.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-01-28 18:29:03
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How is it dishonest reporting if it's in the actual reported story?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-28 18:30:55
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How is it dishonest reporting if it's in the actual reported story?
/hands Pleebo a box of crayons.

If you cannot tell the difference between actual reporting and dishonest reporting, then this conversation is too advanced for you. Now go play in the corner like a good little boy.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-01-28 18:37:17
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So you don't know either. That's fine.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-01-28 18:43:57
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I am not tired of all this winning yet!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-28 18:45:29
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Yeah cause when you report the words that come out of an official's mouth it's apparently facts I don't like now.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-28 18:59:17
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So you don't know either. That's fine.
I would teach you, but I would have better luck teaching a blind man how to write.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-01-28 18:59:56
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Since, you know, you and several others have a condition known as "willful ignorance"
 
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-28 19:20:04
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How about Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in KGB and FSB, reported to behind the Trump Dossier was found dead in back of his car in Moscow?
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By fonewear 2017-01-28 19:29:10
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How about Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in KGB and FSB, reported to behind the Trump Dossier was found dead in back of his car in Moscow?

Yea let's send James Bond to investigate !
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-01-28 19:31:04
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Iranian filmmaker Asghar Farhadi, an Oscar nominee for Best Foreign Language Film, will be possibly unable to attend the award show due to the EO.

So I'm half expecting Meryl Streep to go super saiyan, fight Trump and blow up the planet!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-28 19:31:32
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Read that headline again King.

"Officials Say Visas Were Being Revoked Prior to Trump’s Executive Order"

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pri·or1
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existing or coming before in time, order, or importance.
Or this isn't about GodEmperorTrump, or his order. Can't be because it happened before it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-28 19:32:42
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Or do we now have alternative timelines to go along with alternative facts?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-28 19:34:50
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Or maybe Nausi
fonewear said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
How about Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in KGB and FSB, reported to behind the Trump Dossier was found dead in back of his car in Moscow?

Yea let's send Johnny Tightlips to investigate !

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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-28 19:38:44
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Trump up to 59% approval in today's Rasmussen poll.

He's popular folks!
Gallup: Trump Net Approval Rating Drops 8 Points In First Week In Office

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President Donald Trump’s net approval rating dropped by eight points in his first week in the Oval Office, according to daily polls tracked by Gallup.

On Sunday Jan. 22, two days after being sworn in, 45 percent of respondents said they disapproved of Trump’s job performance and 45 percent approved. By Friday Jan. 27, the percentage who disapproved rose to 50 and percentage who approved dipped to 42....
Yup, in alternativefactland he is more popular than ever!
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By fonewear 2017-01-28 19:42:14
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Or maybe Nausi
fonewear said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
How about Oleg Erovinkin, a former general in KGB and FSB, reported to behind the Trump Dossier was found dead in back of his car in Moscow?

Yea let's send Johnny Tightlips to investigate !

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-28 19:46:03
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Approval rating polls are all over the place. It doesn't make a lot of sense to take one you like and disregard the rest, accusing any you don't like of being "alternative facts". It was a stupid term when it was coined, and it's getting even more stupid as time goes on.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-01-28 20:11:48
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except of course there no rational reason to think Trump doing what he said he would in his campaign would all of a sudden turn off his supporters.

But hey I do know many liberals who think the rest of America IS pretty dumb.
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