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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 07:48:52
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A Thread Specifically for Omen.
Figured i'd make one so we can stop raiding the December update thread.

The Room Order?:
Floor1: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor2: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor3: Glassy Empty NM
Floor 3.5: Randomly?? Occurrence lucky room.
Floor4: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor5: Kill boss


Armor Upgrades

The requirement for +2s of each slot is the following:
Head -> 8 Paragon cards
Body -> 10 Paragon Cards.
Hands -> 7 Paragon cards
Legs -> 9 Paragon Cards.
Feet -> 6 Paragon cards.

+3s are:
Head -> 40 Paragon cards
Body -> 50 Paragon Cards.
Hands -> 35 Paragon cards
Legs -> 45 Paragon Cards.
Feet -> 30 Paragon cards.

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The +3 Scales required are split via jobs.
Kin
WAR,MNK,DRK,PLD,SAM

Kei
WHM,BLM,RDM,BLU,SCH

Gin
THF,NIN,DNC,RUN

Fu
PUP,BST,DRG,SMN

Kyou
BRD,RNG,COR,GEO



Entry Key Items?:
You get a new one every 20 hours, However i have been able to get one whilst inside:Whether this was a lucky random room I don't presently know.

Glassy NMs:
Each one has a Unique abillity! Yay! Also their all Empty Mob types.
Glassy Thinker -> Pain Sync: [Citation needed] Splits damage dealt to it to those within range. 20" Scherzo works on Pain Sync
Glassy Gorger -> Blessings Something: Copies everyones around its buffs. 10"? Maybe.
Glassy Craver -> Glassy Craver likes to use View Sync (which is like Carousel but pulls you in) and follows immediately with Carousel. Distract worked well against the evasion+


Final Bosses:
THese appear to be all Catarae.{SP}

Kin:
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Kin was more tricky and we ran out of time here. He absorbs Phys dmg during TP moves and magic dmg during spell casts. He has moderatly high Eva. 1.3k or what I had as Acc was not enough to cap. His special move seems to be called Malign Invocation. Massive dmg AoE with amnesia, goes through shadows but is absorbed by Migawari. He has the usually doom and curse and bio moves but nothing scary. Actually Nin was a very good tank here as well. Our Pld died to Doom early and I had no problem tanking it.
He casts some week spells like drain, aspir , freeze, comet....no idea if it gets stronger at the end. I highly assume so.

Gin:
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WS:
- Diabolic Claw, Malign Invocation, Stygian Sphere, Deathly Dimminuendo
- Hellish Crescendo at around 60% or so again probably
- Stygian Cyclone at some point also why not
- Interference near the end, probably 25% again
- Perfect Dodge once early on, forget when
- Uses Suppressive Sphere immediately, which gives the message "A barrier begins to pulsate around Gin" and up goes the shield effect
- Zero Hour does about 500-800 HP and a 60 second Inhibit TP, range is at least 15', seems to be able to use whenever after around 75% (or maybe free use below 25% and we just killed it too fast)

Spells:
- Break, Stone V, Stonega IV, Slowga
- Honestly no idea what else he's supposed to be able to do, I only saw him cast a few times (I expect Breakga below a certain point)

Other junk:
- Absorbs magic damage occasionally, but not always; almost definitely related to Suppressive Sphere
- There seems to be no downside to using melee and not SCing, although he does take good SC damage when he doesn't absorb it (47k Rudra's did a 63k Distortion from a single step with Inundation)

Kei:
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Used benediction at 53%, and a special TP move (Dancing Fullers) at 75%, 50%, 25%, and 10% that does 2500 base dmg x the number of people in range, Including lupons. (BLU + lupon in range= 7500 dmg) Scherzo was on, still did 7500dmg.

Has elemental spikes effect, and changes them often. (indicating what element to nuke it with) It absorbs everything else.

Kyou:
Every 25% does some kind of 10 000 needle move. Starts to spam Meteor sub 25% total HP. Lots of add-effects on his melee hits including Curse to lower HP by 50% ish. Purges debuffs regularly and buffs himself with Pro/Shell. Meteor spam gave us the final blow. He can also do 1000 Fists.

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Meteor sub 25% is 25 range. RNG and COR shooting it at 23 can outrun it easily so healer can focus on tank when needed. We just let our PLD eat the big WS each time and arised him.

Fu:
Opens with a 20" Buff Absorb/Wipe (Ebullient Nullification). Casts Paralyze, Paralyaga, Poisonaga II, Water V, Blizzaga IV. Uses Stygian Cyclone, Malign Invocation, Hellish Crescendo, Deathly Diminuendo and it's Special attack as mentioned above. Certain buffs make it rage to do this Buff absorb. When Enraged he takes extra damage.


How do i get cards:
You Obtain cards by obtaining "Omens". The amount of omens you have are hidden from you, and carry over from your last Entry. After a set amount of omens has been obtained, you receive a Paragon card. [More details needed.]

Alternatively, you can trade 10 cards of 1 type, to be traded for 1 card of another type.

The Inside Objectives (Collecting still)
Completing a set will give you a card drop!!
The Objective scales based on Party members

*Cast Magic on an enemy X amount of times
*Heal x amount or more X amount of times.
*Use X amount of Job Abilities on X amount of times.
*Weapon skill for X amount of Damage X amount of times.
*Kill X amount of enemies.
*Weapon skill X amount of times.
*Land critical attack on enemies X amount of times
*Magic Burst X amount of times.
*Melee hit for X amount of damage X amount of times.

Omen NM Drops:
Glassy Thinker: Adad Amulet, Adapa Shield.
Glassy Gorger: Kishar Ring, Enki Strap, Erra Pendent.
Glassy Craver: Nusku Shield, Sherida Earring, Anu Torque
(The below drop a scale related to their name)
Kin: Utu Grip, Ilabrat Ring
Gin: Dingir Ring, Yamarang
Kei: Ammurapi Shield, Lugalbanda earring
Kyou: Enmerkar Earring, Iskur Gorget
Fu:
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By Odin.Drakenv 2016-12-13 08:40:26
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Sounds like a lot of farming
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-13 08:43:41
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A month to get a single piece? Assuming you can average one per run every time? Ugh to that. Hope there are some tricks we find out to get more cards.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 08:49:39
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You can get rewarded the Entrance KI.
The room order seems to be set.

Floor1: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor2: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor3: Glassy Empty NM
Floor 3.5: Randomly?? Occurrence lucky room.
Floor4: Kill a bunch of enemies
Floor5: Kill boss

I got the Lucky room on my first try. It was full of 12 chests in a circle, and we had to open two. One gave us Nuksu shield (Which i won), and the other gave us a new Entrance KI.

Our first run we also got the Fast cast ring. :)
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-13 09:01:30
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How'd you survive the Glassy boss's big move? Bard?
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 09:03:57
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
How'd you survive the Glassy boss's big move? Bard?
The One with Pain sync we lost too. We wiped then reraised then just diddn't attack it and Pain sync was landing for 3 damage.
We got Glassy Craver first try.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-13 10:07:52
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Looks like a PITA for farming Paragon cards unless we can find a reliable way to have them drop. NM's are just figuring out their mechanics then exploiting them. Catarae suck though, cheap ***.
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By Sylph.Braden 2016-12-13 10:09:33
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Wasn't there a difficulty setting when you go in? If there is, I'm curious which ones people are selecting as they report fights/drops.
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By Ragnarok.Bepe 2016-12-13 10:14:07
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Possible speculation for fu caturae. If he opens with a buff wipe and hits a fully buffed run for 3k, perhaps his mechanic is the more buffs you have to the more damage he does >.>
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By Asura.Silversean 2016-12-13 10:44:36
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I went BLUx2, SAM, GEO and healing trust. The waves were easy and we got white proc on trash mobs, I don't know what it does. The Gorger was fairly easy and would be a joke with the right setup, we kept wiping and couldn't unweak before dying again. He spams TP moves like an idiot so he is fairly easy to kite. He uses paralyze moves and single-target HP drain that can be avoided with shadows. Vanity Dives were around 1.2k when they hit.
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Asura.Silversean said: »
I went BLUx2, SAM, GEO and healing trust. The waves were easy and we got white proc on trash mobs, I don't know what it does. The Gorger was fairly easy and would be a joke with the right setup, we kept wiping and couldn't unweak before dying again. He spams TP moves like an idiot so he is fairly easy to kite. He uses paralyze moves and single-target HP drain that can be avoided with shadows. Vanity Dives were around 1.2k when they hit.
The White Proc was the Teleport up spawning.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 11:22:31
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The Inside Objectives (Collecting still)
Perhaps these are for extra Cards? I'll collect a list so someone can setup for.

*Cast Magic on an enemy X amount of times
*Heal x amount or more X amount of times.
*Use X amount of Job Abilities on X amount of times.
*Weapon skill for X amount of Damage X amount of times.
*Kill X amount of enemies.
*Weapon skill X amount of times.

If anyone has any more please let me know. Thanks <3
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By Asura.Escalon 2016-12-13 11:35:27
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Sylph.Shadowlina said: »
The Inside Objectives (Collecting still)
Perhaps these are for extra Cards? I'll collect a list so someone can setup for.

*Cast Magic on an enemy X amount of times
*Heal x amount or more X amount of times.
*Use X amount of Job Abilities on X amount of times.
*Weapon skill for X amount of Damage X amount of times.
*Kill X amount of enemies.
*Weapon skill X amount of times.

If anyone has any more please let me know. Thanks <3
Land critical attack on enemies X amount of times. (Ours was 18 times)
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-13 11:55:41
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Magic Burst
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By Bahamut.Gorion 2016-12-13 12:01:03
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do 2k damage on auto attack
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2016-12-13 12:41:24
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Are vorseals active in Omen?
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 12:45:05
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ScaevolaBahamut said: »
Are vorseals active in Omen?
No.

And thanks guys.
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By Bismarck.Vashkoda 2016-12-13 13:00:37
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Just a few corrections:
-the KI is renewed every 20hrs, not 22hrs
-I'm not sure if Craver does it too or if you just copied it to the wrong NM, but for us it was the Gorger that used the buff copy move. The log said something along the lines of "Glassy Gorger copies 10 of Vashkoda's magical effects". I very much doubt that I had 10 active, so that's either a standard message and shows it can only copy 10 max, or it's including buffs it stole from others

Also just as an FYI to people, the second gob won't discuss gear upgrades until you've entered Onen for the first time (we reached boss but didn't beat it, so that's not a requirement, anyway)

Also, as we killed random mobs we kept getting messages about how many Omen were left (600-700ish, the numbers would go up and down). Wasn't too sure what that score meant.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 13:03:18
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Thank you. Yes i knew that one of them did a buff mimic, i just forgot which. It was out of my log and i forgot to screenshot D:
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By Ragnarok.Zaryun 2016-12-13 13:45:01
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+3 upgrade mats for each job and corresponding caturae are the following;

Kin

WAR, MNK, DRK, PLD, SAM

Kei

WHM, BLM, RDM, BLU, SCH

Gin

THF, NIN, DNC, RUN

Fu

PUP, BST, DRG, SMN

Kyou

BRD, RNG, COR, GEO

You need one scale per +3 piece. Probably best to get those out of the way with a strong party setup and then focus on farming cards on your preferred job. Nobody wants to exchange 10 cards for a measly 1.

Also on the run my group did we got Glassy Gorger which dropped Kishar ring.
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2016-12-13 14:10:06
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Odin.Drakenv said: »
Sounds like a lot of farming
It's a very long grind for average rewards with better alternatives available (HQ ABJS).
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Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Sounds like a lot of farming
It's a very long grind for average rewards with better alternatives available (HQ ABJS).

It's designed to keep you subbed all year long. a card a day for 250~ days for one set of +3.

Can't complain there's no content for the next forever now.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-13 14:18:08
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Calinari said: »
Lakshmi.Konvict said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Sounds like a lot of farming
It's a very long grind for average rewards with better alternatives available (HQ ABJS).

It's designed to keep you subbed all year long. a card a day for 250~ days for one set of +3.

Can't complain there's no content for the next forever now.
Hope Ya'll realize i got 3 on a trial run XD
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-13 14:22:30
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Craver dropped Nusku Shield for us.
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By stormix 2016-12-13 14:23:28
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where do I go to enter Omen? Also are there prereqs?
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-13 14:56:06
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Hopefully it works like voidwatch (charging up entry permit every 20 hours). I hope I'm wrong but the mini objectives seem dumb, annoying, and unbalanced favoring hybrid jobs to accomplish reliably.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-12-13 15:02:52
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Kyou:

Every 25% does some kind of 10 000 needle move. Starts to spam Meteor sub 25% total HP. Lots of add-effects on his melee hits including Curse to lower HP by 50% ish. Purges debuffs regularly and buffs himself with Pro/Shell. Meteor spam gave us the final blow.

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By knoxvegas 2016-12-13 15:05:32
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ok we just got to Kei last boss and it has a crazy regen and DT, no clue how to bring that down, anyone have any ideas?
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-12-13 15:07:51
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knoxvegas said: »
ok we just got to Kei last boss and it has a crazy regen and DT, no clue how to bring that down, anyone have any ideas?
I'm sure people will try some things to figure mechanics out.



Every 20 hours.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2016-12-13 15:13:52
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I,for one, don't mind the gating. It already appears that multiple cards per run will be doable with more understanding of farming techniques.

Which means a scenario of having PuGs that farm cards on off days for your group's boss runs is possible, assuming we can get cards to that level at some time soon.
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