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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 11:34:06
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Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.

And Texas. Don't forget, this is by the millions.
 
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 12:07:54
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Speaking of that, Black Sails comes back in January, I will be pirating the pirates. I'll miss Charles Vane tho. He jumped over to the 100.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-17 12:17:34
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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That doesn't change the fact that those voters who were older voted for risk or "change" and the young voted in a risk adverse manner.
That's because the young and stupid didn't want change. The path that the liberals/democrats were going, they wanted to make everything free*. Sander's entire platform was free stuff all around! Clinton's entire platform was to continue down the path we are currently going (otherwise known as the "Preserve Obama's legacy" platform). You honestly think that a low labor participation rate, anemic growth (and it's only anemic because interest rates and inflation is so low. If interest rates/inflation was acting like normal, there would be zero overall growth, more likely a prolonged recession for the past 8 years), and inflated government debt is good for a country, especially one as big as ours? Can you honestly say that, knowing your claim as being an economist, that this country has been doing good compared to other administrations, including all 8 years of Bush II?

Do you honestly think or even claim that this whole situation that Obama and his administration has lead us wouldn't have given us results shown otherwise? If you do, then you are one of those liberal "elites" who's heads are so up in the clouds, only knowing their own personal gains but ignoring the plight of anyone around them.

Stop putting words and arguments in my mouth.

None of what you wrote above has anything to do with what I was talking about or the discussion that was occuring.

Bahamut.Kara said: »
One theory was:
The young are usually less risk adverse.
As you get older you are more risk adverse.

However, this (and the theory you and others are throwing out) should be re-examined because both Brexit and Trump was a vote for change, a risk that is very difficult to estimate (especially in Brexit case).

In both of those elections older voters voted for risk.

Frankly, generalizing based on age is a very poor measurement.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 12:19:31
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Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.

on the other hand....

three million imaginary people should be pretty easy to find....

all you would need to do is find a county that voted heavier blue this year than in '08 and whammy..there's the voter fraud.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-17 12:20:27
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Twitter Bias

Someone posts they hate all white people, and *** everyone who voted Trump. It gets reported and is OK by Twitter.

Someone as a test posts the exact same message except changing out white for black, and Trump for Hillary and it gets deleted and the owner is banned.
You mean a private company might have made a mistake... Or maybe their censor algorithm sucks?

Who knew......
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-11-17 12:20:49
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Ok people. We'll just wait for the il-legals to be kicked out and then we'll take another vote.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 12:21:11
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
generalizing based on age is a very poor measurement.

yeah that was my take away from your post....

I have no idea where he got his.
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 12:25:04
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ok people. We'll just wait for the il-legals to be kicked out and then we'll take another vote.

Sure kid.
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By fonewear 2016-11-17 12:27:20
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Hillary gave a speech recently I'd post it but who wants to hear from a loser !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 12:32:21
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ok people. We'll just wait for the il-legals to be kicked out and then we'll take another vote.

or we can do math.

REALITY


70 million - the number of democrats that voted for obama 08
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5 million - the gain in democrats registered to vote since
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=75 Million - total dems polled to vote in 16
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60 Million - Actually Voted for Hillary
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15 Million democrat voters that didn't vote at all


Imaginary

75 Million total dems polled to vote in 16
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3 Million - imaignary voters that voted illegally
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78 Million Votes -Nausi's Imaginary Voters that Voted for Hillary
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-11-17 12:35:08
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
I have no idea where he got his.
The same place where he pulls all of his arguments from?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 12:47:09
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
I have no idea where he got his.
The same place where he pulls all of his arguments from?

The grassy knoll....with ted "the zodiac killer" cruz's dad.... I should have known!
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-11-17 13:16:45
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ok people. We'll just wait for the il-legals to be kicked out and then we'll take another vote.

or we can do math.

REALITY


70 million - the number of democrats that voted for obama 08
+
5 million - the gain in democrats registered to vote since
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=75 Million - total dems polled to vote in 16
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60 Million - Actually Voted for Hillary
______________
15 Million democrat voters that didn't vote at all


Imaginary

75 Million total dems polled to vote in 16
+
3 Million - imaignary voters that voted illegally
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78 Million Votes -Nausi's Imaginary Voters that Voted for Hillary

Those people aren't hidden democrats, they're people that only voted that way because it was Obama and not everyone that voted for obama was a democrat. Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-11-17 13:18:37
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Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.

They don't all vote.
 
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 13:21:52
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Those people aren't hidden democrats, they're people that only voted that way because it was Obama and not everyone that voted for obama was a democrat. Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.

This does nothing for your lies about voter fraud occurring by the millions.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-11-17 13:28:14
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Viciouss said: »
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Those people aren't hidden democrats, they're people that only voted that way because it was Obama and not everyone that voted for obama was a democrat. Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.

This does nothing for your lies about voter fraud occurring by the millions.
Prove they're lies.
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 13:39:46
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Those people aren't hidden democrats, they're people that only voted that way because it was Obama and not everyone that voted for obama was a democrat. Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.

This does nothing for your lies about voter fraud occurring by the millions.
Prove they're lies.

You haven't proven anything and yet we have to discredit your lies? I don't think so kid. You are lying about voter fraud until you can post some proof. Clinton ran away with the popular vote. You say its illegitimate? Prove it. Your "intuition" isn't good enough. Put up or shut up.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-11-17 13:40:26
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Prove they're lies.
That's not how it works.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 13:44:26
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Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.

I looked state by state and only texas, arizona and florida had higher turnouts for hilary than obama.... but it's only by about half a million people total and it didn't change the percentage won. (meaning more people also voted for trump in those states.)

meanwhile california, the most likely place to vote illegally f you were an imaginary illegal, voting illegally is two million shy.

In conclusion: If three million people did vote illegally for hillary then they are ninjas that assumed the identities of registered voters and then voted how the voter whose identity they assumed would have voted anyways and then disappeared into the ether....

which would mean 3 million ninjas voted for trump and we have a serious problem on our hands people....

SIX MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN NINJAS VOTED!!!

we should hire ninjas to set ninja traps at all the polling places to twart their strange interferance that made no difference...
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 13:44:32
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Nausi thinks that millions of illegals voted for Clinton to put her up in the popular vote yet somehow not the Electoral College. Millions of votes but not enough to win her Florida, Arizona, or Texas. All of the illegal votes apparently only happened in California and Nevada. Thats believable. Or we can go with, nausi is trolling as always.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 13:47:15
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.

so what? almost the exact same number of people voted for trump and mittens.

statistically speaking everyone was a republican that voted last time
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 13:50:09
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Nausi thinks that millions of bad hombres voted for Clinton to put her up in the popular vote yet somehow not the Electoral College.

yeah it's the worst conspiracy ever conspired...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-11-17 13:50:30
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.
They don't all vote.
All of your 3 million illegal alien voters didn't vote?

OK, that I can believe.
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 13:51:48
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Viciouss said: »
Nausi thinks that millions of bad hombres voted for Clinton to put her up in the popular vote yet somehow not the Electoral College.

yeah it's the worst conspiracy ever conspired...

I'm not sure, he has had a lot of really stupid ones. We would have to compile the full list.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-11-17 13:53:20
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
You'd think, by Nausi's logic, Florida and Arizona would be solid, solid blue. Like, just so blue.
They don't all vote.
All of your 3 million illegal alien voters didn't vote?

OK, that I can believe.

half of them voted for gary johnson
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By Viciouss 2016-11-17 13:53:23
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Or are we talking about the conspiracy to just win the popular vote, in that case, yes, that is a really bad plan. But, worst ever? Not sure, since this is just a fantasy conspiracy and there are some really bad actual conspiracies out there.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-11-17 14:00:49
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Not everyone that voted trump was a republican.

so what? almost the exact same number of people voted for trump and mittens.

statistically speaking everyone was a republican that voted last time
What about the never trumpers?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-11-17 14:01:31
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
What about the never trumpers?
Yeah that's what they all say, but then one night while partying they get curious and..
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