Candlejack said: »
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Candlejack said: » charged with treason Candlejack said: » No, I'm faulting him for putting his city's main nerve center for emergency response services into what he knew was a high-value terrorist target. Remember, not even ten years prior, the WTC had been cbombed in one of the parking garages there, that should have been on his mind at the time in his decision making about it and he should have picked another location based on that knowledge. Ramyrez said: » Candlejack said: » Corker, Gingrich and Sessions... Corker can easily be charged with treason for his part in the treasonous 47 senators' letter to Iran two years back, Sessions has almost always been under investigation on rape charges, and Gingrich is a moron. What is with you and the treason thing? Seriously, mate. Get off it. maybe nobody told him how the congressional vote turned out? *spoiler alert* republicans control the house, the senate, the presidency, kentucky for the first time since 1920, and faster than you can vomit in fear, the supreme court. wait...I'll put it in a picture he might understand Gotta say Christie with Trump makes for some of the best meme though
Candlejack said: » No, I'm faulting him for putting his city's main nerve center for emergency response services into what he knew was a high-value terrorist target. Dude, it's New York City. The entire thing is a big prime terrorist target. Joe's Pizza is a bigger terrorist target than the state capital of all 50 states, including New York's, because *** Albany. Where was he supposed to put it? *heavy sighing*
Valefor.Sehachan said: » *heavy sighing* Christie looks like he is wondering if Trump knows about second breakfast in that first picture... YouTube Video Placeholder
How long do you think it will take before trump puts the trademark TRUMP on the whitehouse?
Liberals are suddenly terrified by the prospects of an imperial presidency
The Federalist, which I know some people will dismiss outright. Quote: Laying the groundwork for future Democratic Party attacks, a new Politico piece detailing the numerous ways Donald Trump has promised to dismantle eight years of Barack Obama’s executive overreach now warns Americans, without even the slightest hint of self-awareness, to prepare “for an imperial presidency.” Of course, judging from his disposition and history, it’s conceivable that Trump would use his pen and phone to circumvent constitutional norms if his agenda meets congressional resistance. As of this moment, though, he’s not done or suggested anything of the sort. Politico simply conflates undoing abuse with the abuse itself. Politico’s reporters are very concerned about Trump’s use about “executive fiat” — a popular conservative phrasing these past few years — that might undo what should never have been. Liberal initiatives are generally treated as sacred, immovable objects, enshrined into the very heart of our national identity for time immemorial. The New Deal has gained just such currency, but it doesn’t have to happen to the international Paris climate change agreement – an agreement that was never sanctioned by the Senate. Of course, the idea that Democrats are worried about the sanctity of our checks and balances rather than the preserving agenda gains is laughable. Remember, Obama didn’t merely push the limits of executive power, like others before him; he normalized and popularized arguments for circumventing the intention of the Constitution. The president — and his allies — regularly maintained that it was his duty to impose progressives’ will on the nation because the legislative branch “didn’t act” in a way he believed it should. This was always couched as a moral imperative. No post-World War II president (and maybe none before) had ever overreached in this way. Courts consistently found his actions unconstitutional, yet he continued to make the argument and act on it. Let’s also remember that the Left spent the past eight years lamenting checks and balances as “obstructionism” that would sink sound democratic governance. “When they say ‘checks and balances,’ that’s their code word for obstruction or something worse,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi recently warned when she thought her party would take the White House. Only last week, The New York Times referred to conservative/libertarian arguments to keep the court ideologically balanced a “coup” against the Supreme Court. When Republicans won Congress back in 2010, Washington was always referred to as “dysfunctional.” Legislators were “nihilists” and “willfully negligent.” I look forward to consistency on this issue. Surely all the people who grumbled about our “unproductive” Congress the past few years will celebrate the speed in which Republicans enact the Trump administration’s agenda. No doubt, Vox writers will continue to lecture us about the destructive nature of the filibuster and argue strenuously against transparency. We need to get things done, right? Liberals justified their attacks on checks and balances by claiming that the GOP’s positioning is driven solely by racism or some other hatred. In the matter of governance, this is irrelevant even if true. Constitutional norms aren’t contingent on the intentions of those governing. But it’s also ridiculous. “Unprecedented” or not, what’s happened in Washington is an organic political reaction to a nation with two parties that can’t agree on much. Barack “I won” Obama was no more interested in compromise than Republicans were. Although I hope the GOP will strengthen the filibuster rather than do away with it, it will have a strong case for undoing Obamacare using the same parliamentary methods Democrats used to pass it. Now, it would probably benefit the GOP to approach Democrats and make a genuine efforts to incorporate some of their ideas into any package (the best-case scenario is to do it through federalism, which has been under relentless attack over the past two decades). As Democrats have learned this cycle, going it alone is not a sustainable way to govern in this system. I’m not naïve enough to believe that most partisans wouldn’t sacrifice checks and balances to enact their favored policies, but it’s in these moments that you wish the both sides would understand why it’s important to guard them. There is no permanent ruling majority. Democrats acted as if they would never lose an election again. Admittedly, this is not unique. Now, most liberals — in punditry and government — have absolutely no standing to make arguments for preserving process. A legacy built on edicts is easily discarded — which is good news for the republic. Dunno but it appears that due to the never Trump movement the new administration is having trouble finding people to fill vital positions in national security and foreign policy.
I hope that now that she doesn't have to campaign or run the country she can get proper treatment for her Parkinson's Disease.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: » I hope that now that she doesn't have to campaign or run the country she can get proper treatment for her Parkinson's Disease. I thought that was a myth by the GOP to ensure that Trump wins by showing Clinton is unfit to run, never mind it was her other defects that was shown to the nation that prevented her from Ramyrez said: » That said...just let it go. Trump won. No need to be smarmy. I want to see his birth certificate!!! Candlejack said: » It's possible, Trump does, at 70 years old, fall easily within the age bracket for when Alzheimer's starts to affect a person's mind. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » In the press conference with Obama first thing Trump says is he has great respect for Obama...except when he called him a disgrace and the worst president ever <_< Peaceful transition and all, but let's limit the hypocrisy a little bit. It's eyebrow raising to be sure, but if you're looking for painful after-election contradictions, they're everywhere: Quote: "We have to remember that we're actually all on one team…We’re not Democrats first, we're not Republicans first, we are Americans first. We're patriots first. We all want what’s best for this country." - President Obama, November 9, 2016 Yeah, you should have thought of that, you know, 8 years ago. Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » But guess what! The people have spoken, tired of the bull that is handed to them on a platter and finally did something about it. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » In the press conference with Obama first thing Trump says is he has great respect for Obama...except when he called him a disgrace and the worst president ever <_< Peaceful transition and all, but let's limit the hypocrisy a little bit. It's eyebrow raising to be sure, but if you're looking for painful after-election contradictions, they're everywhere: Quote: "We have to remember that we're actually all on one team…We’re not Democrats first, we're not Republicans first, we are Americans first. We're patriots first. We all want what’s best for this country." - President Obama, November 9, 2016 Yeah, you should have thought of that, you know, 8 years ago. Candlejack said: » The right refuses to accept the blame for the auto industry and housing collapse, which is pure *** because they caused it by repealing consumer protections, especially Glass Stegall, during Bill Clinton's watch, which was further compounded under G.W's administration. Guess what, it's not liberals-only or conservatives-only (with the sole exceptions of liberal-only passed legislation, such as Obamacare). It's politicians who created this mess. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Quote: "We have to remember that we're actually all on one team…We’re not Democrats first, we're not Republicans first, we are Americans first. We're patriots first. We all want what’s best for this country." - President Obama, November 9, 2016 Yeah, you should have thought of that, you know, 8 years ago. I hate hyperbole like this. While this applies to a lot of Americans (more likely, the ones that didn't vote, in this case), no politician believes patriotism comes before political agenda. Obama puts on a good show, but that was definitely a miss. He wasn't an American first when he (and equally, the congress he was fighting) let the government shut down. He was a Democrat with an agenda. Valefor.Omnys said: » He wasn't an American first when he (and equally, the congress he was fighting) let the government shut down. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » In the press conference with Obama first thing Trump says is he has great respect for Obama...except when he called him a disgrace and the worst president ever <_< Peaceful transition and all, but let's limit the hypocrisy a little bit. It's eyebrow raising to be sure, but if you're looking for painful after-election contradictions, they're everywhere: Quote: "We have to remember that we're actually all on one team…We’re not Democrats first, we're not Republicans first, we are Americans first. We're patriots first. We all want what’s best for this country." - President Obama, November 9, 2016 Yeah, you should have thought of that, you know, 8 years ago. What's the point? This is all standard political posturing. Nobody is saying what they truly think at this point. There is no politically correct option except to be a gracious winner/loser. This "give him a chance" rhetoric surely wasn't there when Obama and Clinton were reaming him less than a week ago. @Ramy: Neither was Cruz.
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