The Black Sacrament -- A Guide To Black Mage

Staff debuffs? you mean casting impact and burn? or you mean hitting it with a 3k tp Vidohunir?

as far as MP, my gearswap puts in af3 body below 50%, but with having embrava, +sv ballads, and vile elixir, I see the ea body on for alot of my nukes.

Yes usually open with 3k Vido and put another time one on mid fight.

Video is very important imo, but it's not a reason to use staff over bunzi for nukes. First Video is from tactician roll anyway, so can just swap to bunzi rod after Vido. You can then swap to staff mid fight and get tp for on Vido, then switch back to Bunzi. Now Myrkr is potentially a stronger reason, but I have no experience on Onto as BLM so I have no idea how fast you burn MP there.

lol nukes...

Have you ever seen the wearing off message? Lots of people use Vidohunir on Ongo, but Magic Defense Down is Thunder element, which makes it hard to imagine it'd land very often, if at all (unless aura was up), so a confirmation of it being landable would be great.

Cleared V20 ongo with Macc down aura, and no 5/6 on wildcard

Skillchain: SCH->SCH->RUN(Steel Cyclone)->COR(Wildfire)
Stoneja->t6->t5->t4->t3 in uninterrupted SC

If books were down we did COR->RUN SC

used this set
Unity@r15
Awgu@r20
ItemSet 351869

Once the Aura came up GEO switched from Acumen->Focus

Anyone know if ancient magic MB+ merit count towards the 40cap or does it bypass like trait?

Merits are their own category and do not count toward any gear specific caps. The ancient magic burst bonus from merits is calculated as its own entity and is neither MBD 1 nor MBD 2. It stacks with everything.

Ok I'd like to ask for some assistance with analyzing this video here. This is an account of a JP group killing veng 20 Ongo with 6 minutes on the clock to spare. From discussion with a few friends we determined the gear set the blm is using is this

ItemSet 383468

By swapping out the staff for bunzi's rod you get an extra 10 magic burst damage 1, which gives leeway to swap out sorcerer's stole +2 for quanpur necklace. But apart from the gear set he's using and the rate at which he's firing off his spells it's hard for me to tell what all else is going on. Can anyone determine the order and timing of their ability uses? I'm honestly impressed they managed to down the bird as efficiently as they did. I can't make out an iota of what they're saying though and I really wish I could.

Just for the record- you wouldn't need to give up a staff to use Quanpur Neck and keep 40 MBB1

Ea Hat+1=7
Ea Slops+1=8
Ea Houppelande+1=9
Agwu Gages=8
Agwu Pigaches=6
JSE cape=5

43 Magic Burst Bonus 1 just from that.

God call. I'm just reporting what the blm in the video is using.

Oh definitely get it- I just think that the reason for the swap from Staff/Grip to Club/Shield is to overcome the INT and macc loss by giving up the JSE+2 neck- in particular for Laevateinn users.

I will say that Bunzi/Ammurapi is my go-to pairing for bursting on GEO and RDM these days when not concerned about TP, and I do use it in a high INT/macc build that looks a lot like the set you posted (just freke over mujin is the only difference I saw).

Someone actually said they think he's using agwu's slops instead of ea slops +1. But that doesn't make any sense to me. Sure earth spells are affected by int and magic damage more than any other spell line, but ea +1 just has to be better.

I don't use Ea+1 feet on RDM magic bursting either, personally.

The BLM in the vid also used Freke ring, not mujin band

Never really paid attention to that.. didn't realize Vido effect was thunder based either... Does shattersoul also have the same properties?

Should, far as i know all the down effects share the same element, atleast for WS

JPs seem to really like the Quanpur Necklace neck for Ongo. It seems crazy that 5 earth mab beats 25 burst macc + 30 macc + 15 INT, since the macc/dint is such a critical component.

They are doing SCH SC -> Steel Cyclone > Wildfire

When Tabula is up
they are doing
SCH Aero > Earth Helix > Aero > Dark Helix > Steel Cyclone > WF


BRD is spamming lullaby on add to bounce it off SCH and himself or else it sits pounding SCH

Everything else they are doing is been mentioned in this thread.

SCH Buffs: Aquaveil, Klima, Regen5,SandstormII, Embrava
GEO: I-acumen/geo-malaise entrust int
RUN: Gambit/Rayke resets with COR
BRD: Earth Thren/nocturne/elegy
BLM: ES/manawell Impact + burn (subtle sorcer)

They save the SP for after it SPs (bolster/tabula/etc)

I'd like to note that they are capped on MBD without the bunzi's rod in there.

Unless my understanding of it is completely wrong, Quanpur Necklace is Affinity, much like Pixie Hairpin +1 and Weatherspoon Ring +1. The translation on the English version is different for Quanpur Necklace compared to the two previously mentioned items, but it is consistent on the Japanese descriptions.

Having that and, and looking at the Affinity page on the wiki, Quanpur Necklace with it's 5 Affinity should be earth elemental magic damage +30% and earth elemental magic accuracy +30.

whaaaat? It's some affinity description for magian staves under that link. It's just +5% earth damage. Unless you think Pixies hairpin +1 is +145% dark damage and macc lol.

I did a test to be extra sure however (same mab and other stats on same target):
1084 without
1137 with
1137 / 1084 = 1.04889 so almost 5% (there is some rounding involved).

5% affinity is still probably higher than 15INT however, so assuming there is no need for macc (SV threnody is -400 magic evasion. There shouldn't be any need for macc with that on) Quanpur is better than +2 neck for pure damage I think. Difference would be really small probably.

15 INT should beat 5 affinity normally on Ongo, but (without mathing it) the affinity could win out when Burn/Impact are on.

Quanpur also has 7 MAB, though, so...

Whoops, linked the wrong section. The affinity section on the magic damage page:

Affinity adds damage in a separate multiplier term. When affinity is present, it starts at a base of 5% ("Affinity +0"), with 5% additional for each affinity level. Affinity from equipment can only be gained from elemental staves created through Trial of the Magians and a few other items (Weatherspoon Ring).

No affinity: Affinity = 1.0
Damage affinity +1: Affinity = 1.1
Damage affinity +2: Affinity = 1.15
Damage affinity +3: Affinity = 1.20
Damage affinity +4: Affinity = 1.25
Damage affinity +5: Affinity = 1.30
Damage affinity +6: Affinity = 1.35

Affinity in the form of element-specific attack power from Atma or Atmacite is additive with this term.

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I also got a 5% increase while nuking with the necklace. Maybe the magic accuracy portion is correct. Either way, it's worked out fine when using a mythic BLM for V20 clears.

Element affinity is different from element magic attack bonus, in terms of stats on equipment.

The former goes by that chart, but the latter is +1% per point and no magic accuracy (as far as we know).

That chart is only followed by Magian staves.

I can confirm that yes, Quanpur Necklace is indeed Maff. I remember checking it back when it was new.
SE's been all over the place when it comes to translating Maff for ENG item descriptions. It didn't help that Maff had that original terrible description for the magian stuff.

Which brings me to my small bubble bursting... while "elemental MAB" is indeed the same as Mafff, the original nomenclature for affinity (e.g. where +1 = +10 MAB + Macc) is no longer used anymore; and hasn't been for a long while...
Almost immediately really.

Now they'll just say the derivation for the sake of ease of understanding. Which is good.
So that "earth MAB"+5 is just 5%. Same as pixie hairpin +1's 28% or marin staff +1's 11% or Weatherspoon ring +1's 11%.
archon ring is a good example of how they now split the "MAB" and the Macc terms of Maff.

EDIT: Seems I was beaten to the punch... lol for being fancy.

Yes Quanpur necklace is Affinity. It's basically Archon Ring for earth nukes with some extra MaB tacked on.