Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential Thread

As a gay dude, surrounded by a sea of gay dudes who specifically will vote for Hillary based on her stance which is no longer relevant due to the Supreme Court ruling last year, please inform me of tangible evidence she has any plans to follow through with what she says. I don't care for Trump, as much as you can't care for someone you don't even know, but I can say I at least respect the man. He may have some backwards views on certain issues, but at least he believes in them.

I supported the Hillary train until it came out that she was an imbecile who opened the country to a security breach. Always wished she would have been the President last election. After that news broke? Sorry, can't support her.

Oh look, a Canadian. One of those people who still deal with royalty, even though the royalty has no power.

Cute

Didn't he already admitted that when he started campaigning this election cycle?

They don't even have real royalty, they just borrow England's royalty.

If you expect a politician to keep their campaign promises, boy do I have a seaside beach house to sell you from Utah!

Oh look, a Canadian. One of those people who still deal with royalty, even though the royalty has no power.

Cute

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If Trump keeps loving black people he's gonna lose his KKK endorsement.

Wait, that's not what you were saying yesterday!

You were one of the deniers who was demanding evidence on Clinton breaking ethic rules for top government employees...

They don't even have real royalty, they just borrow England's royalty.

Cause, you know, it's hard to crown their own "silver-spoon-in-***" type of people.

There was some discussion of it, but I felt it was swept under the rug by both sides, no one comfortable with it or wanting to dwell on it overly much. Left: "Well, he's a businessman, they donate across the board for various reasons." Right: "Well, he wisely changed his mind about his loyalties/beliefs."

And everyone moved on.

It's actually always been a little suspicious to me that the two of them have ties.

I'm not a denier you just can't get it through got thick skull that I could do anything but support A democrat... Like I said yesterday I wish you guys could find something that could stick to her to get her thrown out of the race so we can get someone decent in there...

To date you have nothing really though... You think republican lawmakers wouldn't act on something if they had stone cold evidence like you think they do? No you continue to throw ***at the wall hoping things stick and then back it up by saying the possibility is there and I'll believe what it looks like to me... Then you go back to defending trump who you personally claim you dislike and call for evidence on things that you can't even provide on Hillary...

Someone so actually wants proof on something isn't a denier... But in order to fully convince me on either trump or Hillary you'll have to actually bring something factual to the table beyond what you feel she did...

Actually, I don't see any evidence of Trump being corrupt.

Can you provide some please?

In the summer of 1980, Donald Trump faced a big problem. For six months, undocumented Polish laborers had been clearing the future site of Trump Tower, his signature real estate project on Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue, where he now lives, maintains his private offices and hosts his presidential campaign.

The men were putting in 12-hour shifts with inadequate safety equipment at subpar wages that their contractor paid sporadically, if at all. A lawyer for many of the Poles demanded that the workers be paid or else he would serve Trump with a lien on the property. One Polish worker even went to Trump’s office to ask him for money in person, according to sworn testimony and a deposition filed under oath in a court case.

For help, Trump turned to Daniel Sullivan, a 6-ft. 5-in., 285-lb. labor consultant, FBI informant and future officer of the Teamsters Union. “Donald told me he had difficulties …,” Sullivan later testified in the case. “That he had some illegal Polish employees on the job.” ...

For 36 years, Trump has denied knowingly using undocumented workers to demolish the building that would be replaced with Trump Tower in 1980. After Senator Marco Rubio raised the issue of undocumented Polish workers during a Republican primary debate this year, Trump described himself as removed from the problem. “I hire a contractor. The contractor then hires the subcontractor,” he said. “They have people. I don’t know. I don’t remember, that was so many years ago, 35 years ago.”

But thousands of pages of documents from the case, including reams of testimony and sworn depositions reviewed by TIME, tell a different story. Kept for more than a decade in 13 boxes in a federal judiciary storage unit in Missouri, the documents contain testimony that Trump sought out the Polish workers when he saw them on another job, instigated the creation of the company that paid them and negotiated the hours they would work. The papers contain testimony that Trump repeatedly toured the site where the men were working, directly addressed them about pay problems and even promised to pay them himself, which he eventually did....

I'm not a denier you just can't get it through got thick skull that I could do anything but support A democrat... Like I said yesterday I wish you guys could find something that could stick to her to get her thrown out of the race so we can get someone decent in there...

To date you have nothing really though... You think republican lawmakers wouldn't act on something if they had stone cold evidence like you think they do? No you continue to throw ***at the wall hoping things stick and then back it up by saying the possibility is there and I'll believe what it looks like to me... Then you go back to defending trump who you personally claim you dislike and call for evidence on things that you can't even provide on Hillary...

Someone so actually wants proof on something isn't a denier... But in order to fully convince me on either trump or Hillary you'll have to actually bring something factual to the table beyond what you feel she did...

Flavin is pretty much the only one in P&R atm making any sense.

Thanks for finally fulfilling the lulz of the day for me. Funny junk just wasn't enough. Greenjunk.ffxiah.com fulfilled it.

.... I don't care for Trump, as much as you can't care for someone you don't even know, but I can say I at least respect the man. He may have some backwards views on certain issues, but at least he believes in them....

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He has power, but the thing is, integrity and trust is his main points of power....

He believes in nothing save his own brand.

Someone so actually wants proof on something isn't a denier... But in order to fully convince me on either trump or Hillary you'll have to actually bring something factual to the table beyond what you feel she did...

Wanna talk treason?
"I challenge the Russian hackers to hack our government's computers..."
~Donald J. Trump

And when did I ever say I supported Trump in this thread. Oh wait, I didn't. Because they're both idiots in my opinion.

Where I live my vote doesn't matter anyways the idiots in charge here will vote Democrat from here till eternity...

So vote for whoever you like then.

Most evenkeeled people should be able to at least say that we have two very flawed candidates running for POTUS right now. One has experience with government (for better or worse) and the other is a mirror by which to reflect your wildest dreams of 'America'.

Depending on state you can choose to protest vote or accept that you'll be force to choose, for the people have spoken. Republicans elevated Trump, Democrats elevated Clinton. This is reality.

No one likes decisions like this but most things are rarely black/white. See you in 4 years where we have a Cauliflower and Potato as candidates if the current trend continues.

It's hardly worth it. Sure I can say "I vote for Kodos don't blame me" But it's more fun when your vote goes towards a winning candidate !