Random Politics & Religion #07

if your talking about Alton he is a felon , felons are not allowed to have a gun by US code.

if your talking about Alton he is a felon , felons are not allowed to have a gun by US code.

All the back and forth is why an unbiased investigation needs to happen every time a police officer kills someone. The issue is that the Police department themselves can not be trusted to conduct the investigation and fellow Police officers will lie and destroy video evidence to protect their own.

So expect there to be more frequent retaliation killings and expect them to escalate.

This already happens frequently, and each time that the Feds or whatever don't side with the 'persecuted', it's deemed that they were biased.

Another thing we have to get serious about is these cases of malfunctioning body cameras. The officer or department (or both) must be liable every time a cop is supposed to have one and doesn't or it isn't functioning or what-have-you.

It's a shame because hardware, especially abused-hardware, does fail from time to time but it always seems these have failed at the most convenient times.

Another thing we have to get serious about is these cases of malfunctioning body cameras. The officer or department (or both) must be liable every time a cop is supposed to have one and doesn't or it isn't functioning or what-have-you.

It's a shame because hardware, especially abused-hardware, does fail from time to time but it always seems these have failed at the most convenient times.

Sometimes, and increasinglyg more common, the "immediate" reaction is to get the FBI involved (matter of hours). Still, travel time, etc are a factor. Even if the law required the FBI immediately be involved, these things would be in police custody for the temporary amount of time that things took to coordinate.

According to the Louisiana Department of Corrections, Sterling was convicted in 2000 for a crime against a minor that led him to spend about four years in prison and be registered as a sex offender.

A court document reviewed by Reuters showed that he was accused of having sex with a 14-year-old girl and impregnating her when he was 20.

Only if there is a huge media outcry. Also you need to be careful because the FBI are frequently investigating "Rights Violation" and not the actual murder itself. This means the FBI are seeing if the Police Officers violated the dead persons constitutional rights, and not if the kill was justified. It's seems weird but that's why the FBI walk away and be like "we didn't find anything". Doesn't mean the Police didn't murder the victim, just means there is no evidence the Police didn't violate their constitutional rights.

Doesn't justify murdering him. Does Louisiana have the death penalty?

Just saying, a reasonable person wouldn't know the difference.

From just appearance, someone who works with guns every day wouldn't know the difference except *sometimes* by the size of the hole in the barrel.

Anyone whose handled an airsoft/paintbal/bb/demo replica knows how absurdly convincing these are made to look. Years ago, my nephew got an airsoft replica of a gun I happened to have and visibly I couldn't tell them apart.

Having a gun on him isn't a factor unless it was brandished. Louisianna law allows both open and concealed carry.

And he was shot when he was already pinned to the ground. They'd already deescalated the situation when they decided to execute him. That's pretty excessive.

Open/Concealed Carry are legal. But not for somebody with a rap sheet like him. Also once you reach for a firearm in the presence of police, you are now a threat. Legal carry or not, there are some things you do not do during an investigative stop/confrontation.

He was reaching for his firearm, and still could of discharged it while on the ground. His right arm was free to do so.

It wasn't an execution, they shot him to stop him as a threat.

Open/Concealed Carry are legal. But not for somebody with a rap sheet like him. Also once you reach for a firearm in the presence of police, you are now a threat. Legal carry or not, there are some things you do not do during an investigative stop/confrontation.

He was reaching for his firearm, and still could of discharged it while on the ground. His right arm was free to do so.

It wasn't an execution, they shot him to stop him as a threat.

Is there proof he reached for it? Wasn't he already on the floor when they noticed he had a gun?

Did you not read the blog I linked?

No, my bad. I just assumed you were talking about the guy who was shot while face down. That's what you get for skimming. Sorry

Baton Rouge police officers were struggling on the ground with Alton Sterling when an officer put a gun to Sterling’s chest and fired. A witness caught the event on video, and it has politicians, celebrities, and the public crying foul. The outcry had become so extreme, you can expect Black Lives Matter to start destroying innocent people’s property at any time now.



We hate to report on incidents before all of the facts are released, because we know first-hand that when the news media doesn’t have details then they just make up details to get ratings. However, we expect that the Alton Sterling shooting may become a major issue in the next few days and weeks, so we want you to be aware what is happening.

Initial details are scarce, but Baton Rouge Police reportedly responded to a call on Tuesday morning of a man carrying a gun and threatening people in front of a convenience store. It’s not clear what happened before the video started, but next thing we know, police officers are ordering Alton Sterling to the ground. When Sterling resists, officers tackle him. On the ground, one of the police officers calls out that Sterling has a gun. The second police officer unholsters his pistol and points it at Sterling’s chest, and tells him not to move. There’s more shouting and the police officer shoots Sterling.

We don’t have all of the details, so we are unable to give a definitive opinion at this time if the shooting was justified. However, while the news media paints a picture of Sterling as an innocent family man who was executed by the police for being black and selling CDs, the video actually seems to support officer’s actions.

First, you have to remember why the officers were there. Sterling allegedly was threatening people while armed with a gun. At the start of the video, the camera moves around so you miss what’s going on, but you can see the police officers backing away and one officer is pointing a weapon at Sterling.

Baton Rouge PD police officer points Taser at Alton Sterling
Baton Rouge PD police officer points Taser at Alton Sterling
Moments later, we hear what sounds like a Taser air cartridge firing. Officers yell at Starling to get on the ground as the camera faces away from the action. Then, we hear what sounds like a second Taser cartridge firing. It’s not quite clear how we got here, but each officer likely attempted to fire their Taser at Sterling. Based off of this alone, we can presume that there was probable cause to arrest Sterling and that he was actively resisting, prompting officers to deploy their Tasers. In an example of just how high the Taser failure rate is, the Tasers appeared to have no effect.


Officer One then tackles Sterling, bringing him to the ground. Officer Two follows behind and they both get on top of Sterling. Sterling lands on his side, but is able to roll onto his back. We can presume that the officers were attempting to roll Sterling onto his stomach in order to handcuff Sterling. By rolling onto his back with two police officers on top of him, Sterling is clearly demonstrating that he is actively fighting the officer’s attempts to control him, and he’s doing so with some success.

Officer Two then calls out that Sterling has a gun. Both officers can be seen moving for their guns, but Officer One can be seen getting his gun out, pointing it at Sterling’s chest, and telling him not to move. There’s then some shouting (can anybody understand what is said?) and Sterling is shot.

There is apparently security camera and dash cam footage which has not been released yet. Both officers had body cameras, but they fell off in struggle.

Critics are accusing police of a cover-up due to the body cameras falling off. Even when body cameras don’t fall off, they rarely show any usable footage once officers are hands-on. It’s also a common occurrence for body cameras to fall off; one of the most common ways to attach body cameras is with a magnet.

More details are expected to be released soon on the Alton Sterling shooting, but we don’t immediately see anything to indicate that this wasn’t justified.

Open/Concealed Carry are legal. But not for somebody with a rap sheet like him. Also once you reach for a firearm in the presence of police, you are now a threat. Legal carry or not, there are some things you do not do during an investigative stop/confrontation.

He was reaching for his firearm, and still could of discharged it while on the ground. His right arm was free to do so.

It wasn't an execution, they shot him to stop him as a threat.