14yo Arrested Bringing Homemade Clock To School

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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 13:56:37
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
*rolls eyes*

Hey guys I acknowledge we agree to disagree but lemme reinforce that you are wrong and I am right through my wording.

I'm glad you noticed that, too. He literally can not get over that White House invite, can he?

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It's not irrelevant. You just agreed the device looks suspicious. You're at least now agreeing with the kid who "made" it.

The rest is down to the circumstances which I already admit are dubious. Why did he have it set to alarm in English class? Why did he bring a device he thought looked suspicious to school at all? Why is he offering utterly no explanation?

These questions have reasonable answers, and neither of us know what they are. You claim to, why not enlighten me and I can stop being tripped up?

At no point did I admit that the boy's clock looks suspicious, at least the pictures I've seen of it. At the same time, I did concede that it may look suspicious in the eyes of people who are, shall we say, more susceptible to reacting way over the top to things. I, and several others, have also provided pretty reasonable answers to your questions (other than why was the alarm on, that's a very valid point) but for the most part we've been branded as liberals, etc. Not by you first but that word's been thrown around quite a bit in here and it doesn't even mean anything.

I'm willing to accept that a 14 year old kid was simply interested in sharing something he was proud of making - why? Because if I don't accept that, where do I draw the line that everyone is out to get me? What a horrible life I'd be living if I assumed every instance of anything remotely 'out of the ordinary' had a more sinister motive. The beauty of this particular issue is everyone has plenty of room for interpretation, as you've rightly pointed out. What I disagree with is not that you are wrong, just that I believe your judgement is itself somewhat motivated by something other than the facts in front of you. I'm going only on what you've posted to come to this decision.

I am not one for paranoia nor scapegoating and at this point, it's turned into a witch hunt. People are actively fabricating ways to pin this on the kid, when ultimately there isn't any factual proof he did this on purpose. It's just astonishing that the overwhelming majority are eager for to be a real bomb hoax rather than vying on the side of "Perhaps this is out of context". That's the bottom line here, the context of this event is being ignored. It wasn't an airport, a plane, etc, where dramamongers expect Bin Laden's ghost to be waiting for them. It was a school, he showed his engineering teacher before taking it to English. If there was intent to cause a bomb hoax I just don't see it.

That said, the conspiracy theories surrounding this kid's behaviour are worthy of a Game of Thrones episode. People insult the kid for being dumb because his clock is unoriginal, why don't we credit him for the alleged excellent plot he's created that's climaxed in his arrest for a 'bomb hoax' - again, 'bomb hoax' because it only became that when he was wrongfully arrested.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 14:00:32
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Aeyela said: »
He literally can not get over that White House invite, can he?
In hindsight, it would appear to many this is just another excuse to take a jab at Obama. Anything for partisanship.
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By Jassik 2015-09-24 14:09:01
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Even I think the White House invite was a pathetic PR ploy. Even issuing a statement seems like a really petty thing for a president with 2 MAJOR diplomatic events going on to be worried about.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 14:38:06
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Aeyela said: »
He literally can not get over that White House invite, can he?
In hindsight, it would appear to many this is just another excuse to take a jab at Obama. Anything for partisanship.
Said the one who made a jab at me for being partisan.

Should I start calling you (edit: naming somebody is apparently harassment, but we all know who it is) now for being a hypocrite?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 14:41:42
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The hell are you talking about?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 14:49:14
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Accuse me of partisanship by your theory that my argument is nothing more than a jab at the president (protip: it's not), while making a partisan statement himself....

Here's something for you to ponder: not all of my arguments are for/against Obama....
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 14:51:24
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I made a partisan statement? That's so ridiculous. I have 0 *** to give about american parties.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 14:56:19
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I made a partisan statement? That's so ridiculous. I have 0 *** to give about american parties.
Who said that this had to be about American parties? Last I checked, left-side and right-side ideologies extend further than America...

You accused me of making jabs at Obama, where he is not even a topic in this discussion, just for partisan's sake.

But we know you are in a mood, so we can drop it from here.
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By Aeyela 2015-09-24 14:57:56
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But we know you are in a mood, so we can drop it from here.

You really like the last word, don'tcha? And to be honest you've been bringing Obama up all the time by whinging about this kid's White House invite, as if it's personally going to affect your life that he's going and you're not.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-09-24 14:58:32
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Jetackuu said: »
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How did you know there were no explosives? Do you have x-ray vision now?
Look at the image, try to identify the parts you think constitute a bomb, then point out which part COULD be the explosive.
As I have pointed out before the briefcase itself could be explosive.
Wasn't a briefcase, and source? As I'm sure you're not an explosives expert.
No I amn't but I would bet I know more about explosives than 99% of those here.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-24 14:59:03
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Obama is only american, there is literally nothing here about left and right..
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Obama, where he is not even a topic in this discussion
I thought he's the one who made the invite, if he wasn't my mistake.
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But we know you are in a mood
I'm the same as always but talking like this to me is a sure way to get on my nerves.
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-24 14:59:19
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
How did you know there were no explosives? Do you have x-ray vision now?
Look at the image, try to identify the parts you think constitute a bomb, then point out which part COULD be the explosive.
As I have pointed out before the briefcase itself could be explosive.
Wasn't a briefcase, and source? As I'm sure you're not an explosives expert.
No I amn't but I would bet I know more about explosives than 99% of those here.

mmhmm, stick to your hash ma'am.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-09-24 15:01:12
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Aeyela said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
But we know you are in a mood, so we can drop it from here.

You really like the last word, don'tcha? And to be honest you've been bringing Obama up all the time by whinging about this kid's White House invite, as if it's personally going to affect your life that he's going and you're not.
Again, you missed the point.

But let me ask you this then, and please be honest in your answer: Does removing the insides of a clock and putting it into a pencil case really deserve an invite to the White House?
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By Drama Torama 2015-09-24 15:03:00
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And we're back to personal mud-slinging.

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