Are Men Going Their Own Way? (MGTOW)

As I said before, the modern marriage systems of alimony, child support, and no fault divorce are nothing but a system of wealth transfer from men to women.

Goes along great with your picture.

Probably 'Teeth'? I haven't watched it but the premise of a teethed vagina fits your description.

Or, as my father-in-law said of his ex-wife back when I first started dating his daughter,

That's just false... feminism in general has nothing to do with marriage "getting worse for men".

As for alimony, child support and custoday... that has more to do with the way the family dynamic was set up in the past... When people got married the woman generally stayed home, cleaned up and took care of the kids while the man went out and worked. Therefore the woman spent the most time around the children as their general caretaker. The woman also usually gave up employment or was thought not to seek it while married so she could take care of these duties in the family unit. therefore there was a type of societal agreement that each person fulfilled a certain role and thats why court awards became like they did. Women spent more time raising and caring for the children and were around where as the man spent more time away from the home and was the usually the sole provider in the family...

I still think many of you base way too much of this on the television that you watch rather than the actual reality of it all.


Edit: things will change as they have already started to do but as usual the legal system is years behind where it needs to be.

Ugh..I read that wrong, as in "my father in law started dating his daughter" was gonna be worried about your family dynamics!

Radical feminism has everything to do with why marriage is such a bad deal for men. Divorce use to be just as bad a thing for women as it was for men. Radical feminism has removed many those consequences for women only to leave them solely at the foot of men.

Radical feminism has everything to do with why marriage is such a bad deal for men. Divorce use to be just as bad a thing for women as it was for men. Radical feminism has removed many those consequences for women only to leave them solely at the foot of men.

Wait, because women aren't succumbing to social pressure to remain in unhealthy or unwanted relationships, it makes marriage a wealth transfer for men to women? No, it makes divorce an unfairly implemented legal procedure.

There are largely zero negative consequences for women who end marriage via divorce. Men on the other hand, become "taxed" for ever having entered into the agreement in the first place. Through alimony and child support, they are caught having to subsidize the lifestyle of their former partner for decades further.

Please tell me you're not trying to portray all divorces (70%+ of which are initiated by women as battered housewives trying to escape the clutches of their abusive spouses.

Please tell me you're not trying to portray all divorces (70%+ of which are initiated by women as battered housewives trying to escape the clutches of their abusive spouses.

Oh no! There's a drastically reduced stigma in being a divorced woman! We can't treat them like dirty filthy *** anymore! What ever will we do?!

Not all divorces end in alimony and child support either.

There are largely zero negative consequences for women who end marriage via divorce. Men on the other hand, become "taxed" for ever having entered into the agreement in the first place. Through alimony and child support, they are caught having to subsidize the lifestyle of their former partner for decades further.

Please tell me you're not trying to portray all divorces (70%+ of which are initiated by women as battered housewives trying to escape the clutches of their abusive spouses.

There are largely zero negative consequences for women who end marriage via divorce. Men on the other hand, become "taxed" for ever having entered into the agreement in the first place. Through alimony and child support, they are caught having to subsidize the lifestyle of their former partner for decades further.

Please tell me you're not trying to portray all divorces (70%+ of which are initiated by women as battered housewives trying to escape the clutches of their abusive spouses.

Actually, a radical feminist is even less likely to go for marriage at all than a sane woman. Remember? They hate men.

And there's the straw man (i knew it was only a matter of time).

Some even go the other way where a female breadwinner pays alimony to the male.

However, they are exceptions, not the rule.

Up-to-date numbers are hard, if not impossible, to come by. According to 2010 Census records, of the 400,000 people receiving spousal support, only 3 percent were men. Last year, the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers surveyed its 1,600 members and found that 47 percent had noticed an increase in the number of women who are paying alimony.

I didn't say anything about abuse, I said unhealthy or unwanted. Women are more likely to initiate divorces, so what? A relatively small amount of divorces end with alimony, let alone decades of it. And one partner should have to help support their children if they reside primarily with the other. The only thing that is unfair about it is the amounts being required and the frequency that courts make decisions that effect one party much more than the other. As far as women having zero negative consequences from leaving a marriage, that's something that you would have to judge on a case by case basis. Did you ever happen to look at the reasons cited by those wives who filed?

Child support is a form of alimony,

When non-custodial parents were asked why they don't make their child support payments as ordered, the most-commonly cited reason for non-compliance was that the payments were too high. This excuse is not supported by fact, however. Most non-custodial parents had an income twice the amount set as the poverty line.

The next most common reason given for not complying with an order to pay child support was that the non-custodial parent didn't feel connected to his or her child due to lack of access. This excuse fails to take into account that child support and custody are two separate issues. The child is entitled to the support and the parent is legally obligated to pay support, even if visitation does not occur on a regular basis.

The third reason given most often for non-compliance with a child-support order is that the non-custodial parent has concerns about child support and what it can be used on. They don't feel that the money being paid is being used to benefit the child.

Some states have laws in effect allowing the non-custodial parent go to court to request an accounting of how the child support money is being spent. For example, custodial parents in Colorado may be ordered to submit a financial statement each year listing the costs of raising the child or children being supported by the non-custodial parent. If the non-custodial parent still has concerns after receiving this information, the matter is turned over to a mediator to be resolved.

The Court recognizes that having to provide this type of detailed information is intrusive and will generally only order an accounting under certain circumstances. A detailed accounting will not be ordered:
•In a situation where the child's basic needs are being met
•If the original order for child support states that the payment can be used for a number of items, such as accommodation, food, utilities, education expenses, and transportation

An order directing a detailed accounting will only be made in response to a specific allegation of misuse of child support payments; it cannot be used as a fishing expedition.

Parents have a duty to support their children to the best of their ability. If a non-custodial parent has concerns about how the support money is being spent, he or she should consult with an attorney to find out what options are available in his or her state of residence.

Do you just automatically assume all women are dishonest or something?

Unhealthy equates abusive in my head. Not quite sure what else you meant by unhealthy.