~First And Final Line Of Defense V2.0~
~First and Final Line of Defense v2.0~
sailfi belt +1 augmented beats Prosilio, +10% DA swing, +2 TA, +5 STR, -8 atk.
If you dont mind the -HP, Vim Torque R15 has 10 Stp 15 Acc and +20Regain(-50HP)/Tick while engaged.
Also, on the topic of dealing damage, PLD with 100 JP can use blurred shield +1 if you don't need any of the big 3 (4?) shields.
Asura.Wotasu said: »
If you dont mind the -HP, Vim Torque R15 has 10 Stp 15 Acc and +20Regain(-50HP)/Tick while engaged.
Not worth it imo, there's dropping max hp for dps, and then there's actively DOTing yourself for a smidge more dps.
I am fine with the first, but the latter is overkill.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Also, on the topic of dealing damage, PLD with 100 JP can use blurred shield +1 if you don't need any of the big 3 (4?) shields.
You can but the context is soloing endgame content. You absolutely are using Aegis or Ochain (usually Aegis imo, most of the annoying content does a lot of magic damage spam)
Ochain also has wicked high TP generation due to the high block rate vs physical attack heavy fights. On some fights it will out-TP blurred shield purely due to the massive TP boost it gives you from blocking most hits.
And an enemy that uses Hundred Fists? *Chefs Kiss* hello solo 3 step SCs galore!
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
sailfi belt +1 augmented beats Prosilio, +10% DA swing, +2 TA, +5 STR, -8 atk.
For Savage blade I presume? Thats a solid point, I think you are right.
Inventory +1 ftw!
Well to be clear the Neck does not have -HP(I can see my post being badly worded) aside from the Latent effect -50HP/tick when engaged and with Regen if sch or whm, I dont notice it.
Asura.Wotasu said: »
Well to be clear the Neck does not have -HP(I can see my post being badly worded) aside from the Latent effect -50HP/tick when engaged and with Regen if sch or whm, I dont notice it.
I don't notice it much even when using other weapons, but the AM almost completely negates the latent.
Thats not a good thing, for the record.
This is inversely the same as "It completely negates Excaliburs AM"
-50 tick degen is big, thats a lot of added DPS to throw on over time.
I don't view that as remotely worth the slightly boosted DPS. And for any fight that encumbers you or curses you or etc, that degen gets a lot more impactful.
This is inversely the same as "It completely negates Excaliburs AM"
-50 tick degen is big, thats a lot of added DPS to throw on over time.
I don't view that as remotely worth the slightly boosted DPS. And for any fight that encumbers you or curses you or etc, that degen gets a lot more impactful.
On the other hand, 5/5 Sakpata PLD with Aegis or Ochain is basically invincible on the majority of soloable endgame with even trust healers, so you can often easily give up that HP for faster kill speed.
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soralin said: »
Thats not a good thing, for the record.
This is inversely the same as "It completely negates Excaliburs AM"
-50 tick degen is big, thats a lot of added DPS to throw on over time.
I don't view that as remotely worth the slightly boosted DPS. And for any fight that encumbers you or curses you or etc, that degen gets a lot more impactful.
This is inversely the same as "It completely negates Excaliburs AM"
-50 tick degen is big, thats a lot of added DPS to throw on over time.
I don't view that as remotely worth the slightly boosted DPS. And for any fight that encumbers you or curses you or etc, that degen gets a lot more impactful.
Your question frames the context for the response. I think it's fair to assume that if you're asking about DPS builds for a tank job, you've already evaluated whether or not you can 'afford' it. Otherwise, the DPS build you should use when you're concerned with -50/tick is a tanking build.
It's on you to decide when and where to apply them, but the options put forward here are all solid choices.
I was checking macros etc, and had a couple questions:
1) What kind of Enmity would Divine Emblem give a Banishga given lets say 120 Enmity in gear. Is it even worthwhile?
2) What's a better use of Divine Emblem, lets say in Odyssey cleave and also against a single target NM.
1) What kind of Enmity would Divine Emblem give a Banishga given lets say 120 Enmity in gear. Is it even worthwhile?
2) What's a better use of Divine Emblem, lets say in Odyssey cleave and also against a single target NM.
There are only two uses for Divine Emblem: Holy II meme damage, and Flash. If you need a lot of AoE hate quickly, use a BLU spell or Banishga to tag everything and then use Sentinel.
Hopalong said: »
I was checking macros etc, and had a couple questions:
1) What kind of Enmity would Divine Emblem give a Banishga given lets say 120 Enmity in gear. Is it even worthwhile?
2) What's a better use of Divine Emblem, lets say in Odyssey cleave and also against a single target NM.
1) What kind of Enmity would Divine Emblem give a Banishga given lets say 120 Enmity in gear. Is it even worthwhile?
2) What's a better use of Divine Emblem, lets say in Odyssey cleave and also against a single target NM.
Since Odyssey was mentioned I would save Divine Emblem + Flash for your NMs.
When you pull with Banishga I would take advantage of your other -JA's before your big boys like Sentinel and Rampart unless the content requires the mitigation. Follow up with a Majesty or Palisade or lesser ability. Tend to notice people sleep on the enmity they provide. I do this mostly at the start of runs while everyone is buffing so DD can start going ham. Usually can pull the entire first set before songs are done.
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soralin said: »
You can but the context is soloing endgame content. You absolutely are using Aegis or Ochain (usually Aegis imo, most of the annoying content does a lot of magic damage spam)
I generally really disagree with this one. 95% of soloable endgame content, you should use Priwen. It's the best overall shield. Has great block rate with Reprisal, good HP+, good -DT and +50 magic evasion is huge with Sakpata. most if not all of magic damage will be resisted and on top of that you will also resist more debuffs. Aegis should only be used against magic that cant be resisted really and Ochain against 145+ targets that really require 100% block rate for some specific move.
Are people really ignoring Priwen only because its not a REMA?
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moreso the reprisal upkeep than anything, specially if dispels are involved ochains nice since if it drops, not a huge gamechanger while with priwen its a lot more of a loss. If recast/duration was better it wouldnt be as big of an issue.
Agreed on aegis though, until current meva values stop being as strong as they are you should be well off enough that you can take some magic dmg in exchange for having a block rate above 5%
Agreed on aegis though, until current meva values stop being as strong as they are you should be well off enough that you can take some magic dmg in exchange for having a block rate above 5%
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Dispels are not really that common, especially on soloable content, and not a reason to discount Priwen in general use.
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Nariont said: »
moreso the reprisal upkeep than anything, specially if dispels are involved ochains nice since if it drops, not a huge gamechanger while with priwen its a lot more of a loss. If recast/duration was better it wouldnt be as big of an issue.
Agreed on aegis though, until current meva values stop being as strong as they are you should be well off enough that you can take some magic dmg in exchange for having a block rate above 5%
Agreed on aegis though, until current meva values stop being as strong as they are you should be well off enough that you can take some magic dmg in exchange for having a block rate above 5%
You just need 68% recast to keep Reprisal full time. Even assumingg only haste 2 from trusts, you need 25% haste and 26% fast cast in equip. Doesn't look like an issue. Dispel is an issue, but it's rare and even more rare is that it will hit Reprisal. You can then always switch shield for a moment and got back to Priwen after casting Reprisal again.
ItemSet 383507
SIRD/HP/Fastcast cape
This set keeps HP up, SIRD Capped, and can keep up 100% with just Haste 2.
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Yes I know tempus WAY over caps haste, but I carry it so it's whats in my set.
SIRD/HP/Fastcast cape
This set keeps HP up, SIRD Capped, and can keep up 100% with just Haste 2.
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Yes I know tempus WAY over caps haste, but I carry it so it's whats in my set.
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SimonSes said: »
soralin said: »
You can but the context is soloing endgame content. You absolutely are using Aegis or Ochain (usually Aegis imo, most of the annoying content does a lot of magic damage spam)
I generally really disagree with this one. 95% of soloable endgame content, you should use Priwen. It's the best overall shield. Has great block rate with Reprisal, good HP+, good -DT and +50 magic evasion is huge with Sakpata. most if not all of magic damage will be resisted and on top of that you will also resist more debuffs. Aegis should only be used against magic that cant be resisted really and Ochain against 145+ targets that really require 100% block rate for some specific move.
Are people really ignoring Priwen only because its not a REMA?
People should be using Ochain, not Priwen. All the stats on Priwen are just offsetting what you're giving up to stay in a shield skill+ set to match the block rate of Ochain.
It's so comically easy to make that I really can't fathom why people look for any excuse not to use it.
Is that accurate though? I agree when you move up to 145 and above where the natural shield block rate of ochain will pull ahead, but on lower content the difference in block rate isnt that different assuming that sheet is accurate you sit around 86% with reprisal up, so cape + block aug and you're good to go pretty much. You gain 80 hp, 50 meva, 9 DT. Theres a nice jump in def too though id imagine youll be hitting 0 either way with phalanx on blocks.
Long as you can keep reprisal going there's not that much of a difference between the two in terms of block % in standard gear
Long as you can keep reprisal going there's not that much of a difference between the two in terms of block % in standard gear
I have to assume you guys are talking about instances where you can actually get the mob and/or mobs in front of you where blocking actually matters. I have yet to make Ochain and have been riding Srivatsa for 95% of what I do(the other 5% being aegis). I just can't justify losing the other stats on aeonic. With phalanx up even getting hit in the back generally results in 0 damage. Aside from the MP restoral I just can't see how Ochain is better.
Shouldnt be that difficult to get a small pack of mobs facing you, much less a single one, such as NMs, if blockings not a factor then yeah got a small selection of shields to choose from there, being able to negate a large amount of physical dmg + blocking ailments on TP moves that can be blocked is a real nice perk to have, specially when a lot of phys moves have some kind of enfeeb attached to them
Anywhere you can't get hit for 0 without blocking, Srivatsa is doing nothing for you. It's pretty trivially easy to keep anything that doesn't have constant knockback in front of you (and things with knockback can be kept in front with a corner to sit in). Put your right side against a wall and walk backwards until everything is in front of you.
Srivatsa's a fine shield to have on while you're pulling (or if you can't block, like during the Halphas aura), but as soon as you stop moving and have things in position, you're taking more damage (and getting hit by far more en-effects) by leaving it on than swapping to Ochain or Priwen and actually being able to block without needing Palisade and Reprisal.
Srivatsa's a fine shield to have on while you're pulling (or if you can't block, like during the Halphas aura), but as soon as you stop moving and have things in position, you're taking more damage (and getting hit by far more en-effects) by leaving it on than swapping to Ochain or Priwen and actually being able to block without needing Palisade and Reprisal.
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Asura.Jinbe said: »
Hey Martel,
thanks for sharing those sets, i update my FC gears little different since i dont have moogle belt,
thanks for sharing those sets, i update my FC gears little different since i dont have moogle belt,
Asura.Jinbe said: »
is it better to tank on Sakpata + Ochain rather than keeping enmity on gears to reduce enmity loss while getting hits? "i'm talking mainly about mass pulls on dyna"?
Basically, you can lose less CE for taking damage, or you can just take less damage. And Sakpata's is good at the latter. Although it's honestly really hard to say which option will reduce CE loss more overall.
Also, with crusade up, my Sakpata set up there still has +73 enmity out of a max of +100(for CE loss reduction purposes.) So going full souveran could only yield at most 13.5% more CE loss reduction.(27 enmity+ / 2)
Sent you a PM with a question. Hoping you can help!
I don't really see many sets that use them anymore, so... which AF / Relic / Empyrean gear does PLD still use? I'm working on gearing PLD now that I have Sakpata, Priwen, & Aegis, and it's not really clear which of these pieces I want. It's a little odd coming from RDM, which wants almost all its JSE.
PLDs bit special in that regard in that most of its jse armor is for JA swaps and thats really it. Main ones to take to +2/3 right now are the AF body as thats still a fantastic HP swap + FC piece, and the relic gloves for the dispel effect on shield bash. AF legs arent too bad either for enhancing skill, everything else at +2/3 is just a bit more HP/enmity during your JA swap i.e relic head on rampart
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Asura.Bootus said: »
I don't really see many sets that use them anymore, so... which AF / Relic / Empyrean gear does PLD still use? I'm working on gearing PLD now that I have Sakpata, Priwen, & Aegis, and it's not really clear which of these pieces I want. It's a little odd coming from RDM, which wants almost all its JSE.
Empy Feets as well for Divine Emblem
Also recommend the relic feet +3 as well for Sentinel.
Are there any requirements for Gear Swap to leverage the priority feature to avoid dipping too low in HP between sets? I've tested with and without priorities assigned with no difference. Wondering if it's because I'm running on old files or something.
I don't really understand your question, but something a lot of people don't realize is that you need to set priorities in every set you pass through during an action. That means idle, engaged, precast, midcast, and any post midcast modifications if you're doing those.
Veydal1 said: »
Are there any requirements for Gear Swap to leverage the priority feature to avoid dipping too low in HP between sets? I've tested with and without priorities assigned with no difference. Wondering if it's because I'm running on old files or something.
If you are doing priorities you are better off doing them on every piece not just one or two but it should work fine.
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