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a smn smn smn geo run cor party capable of killing schah in 30 seconds costs less gil total than 1 decent blu covering all of their sets and requires no meaningful amount of coordination

you are not living in reality, no other job is in extreme demand for high end content with only 1 set and no swaps

They just moved away from mobs that can be graved and kited. .

Im not opposed to adjusting conduit as has been mentioned but the general sentiment from those calling for nerf is not reflective of that and not nuanced. Just a lot of crying and jobist hate.

And any smn worth their salt would have multiple gear swaps

A consecutive BP nerf like the way BLM's bursts work would be great.

Yes.

I'd like to see it extended beyond BP as well. Gradual resistance when spamming the same WS (maybe could be based on WS properties) over and over, too. That might encourage more cooperative SC'ing and usage of different weapon types and secondary WSs.

IMO, the game is a lot more fun when people have to actually work together at a high level, instead of just facerolling wins.

No that's what they should have done.

What they did was make a crap ton of nms that were either extremely resistant, flat out immune, or immune without immunobreak for all kinds of enfeebling magic.

People didn't stop bringing rdms to parties because they couldn't kite well anymore lol. Heck I'm the only rdm I know that would kite in parties... partly because I'm the only rdm I knew that would party with groups that would wipe lol. Ah good times... nm kills alliance in a couple of minutes then me kiting till weakness wears lol

I disagree. Even back in the RoZ days they rarely over-reacted. I won't say never... but most changes were extremely well-planned and worked. They've always struggled with balancing magic vs. physical, but that's understandable given that physical has always scaled linearly and magic exponentially.

And SMN doesn't need a supernerf, it just needs a Conduit nerf. SMN was an underdog for a good dozen years, please don't encourage them to nerf it back to irrelevance.

Thought you said you were quitting..

Welcome back Commander.

The game is already at the point already where tons of people have Aeonics and Escha and Omen gear gained through SMN spamming everything who otherwise wouldn't have been able to get the gear through skill. Is there much point in nerfing it now? For future content, sure, but might aswell leave it as a strat for the game for now.

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Read up on the RNG nerf, then on the TP nerf, and finally on the first BST nerf to get an idea on SE's idea of "nerfs".

Summoner spams Volt strike and Flaming crush for a reason. Most of the other avatars are terrible for damage compared to Ifrit, Ramuh, and Garuda. Forcing summoner to swap avatars would be fine if most of them were not garbage. That also constantly resets the -bp delay from avatar's favor. Summoner just needs an entire rework honestly.

-Change Conduit completely. Bloodpacts cost 0 mp to perform. Last 3 mins to mirror Astral Flow. Remove the 0 recast effect.
-Apply the consecutive bloodpact nerf. (encourages use of multiple avatars which goes well with the fact that avatars can skillchain)
-Buff all the bad avatars so they can compete with the big 3. Is it too much to ask for that they all receive a thunderspark equivalent? Probably too much to ask for a Flaming crush equivalent even though Volt strike sounds like a hybrid bp name.
-Make the -bloodpact delay gained and favor potency from avatar's favor a fixed amount (this encourages avatar swapping)
-Add a new ability "Avatar's Pressure". Basically a mirror of Avatar's Favor that gives your avatar a debuff aura instead of a buffing one. A unique effect like how geo bubbles work, so it doesn't cockblock RDM. Avatar's Favor and Avatar's pressure overwrite each other. (this encourages the use of other avatars)
- Either reduce the ward timer or give multiple charges to ward recast so avatars like Carbuncle can work better at supporting. The little squirrel is amazing, but he just can't keep up with a 20 second timer. Regen favor, multiple debuff removal, aoe heal, and enmity control with pacifying ruby. We could see the return of summoner healers (and actually be good at it this time!)
-Give me Siren! >:(

Quite frankly this idea that people are getting things they "didn't earn" because people are using the path of least resistance is stupid. You pretend this game hasn't ALWAYS been about this ***. What was it before SMN? Remember Embrava? Remember SMN spamming Perfect Defense? Remember RNG all the things? Remember NIN tanking?

The game is how old now? How many times must we play this song and dance. Just because YOU don't like a strategy doesn't make it bad. If people are actually clearing things and getting gear then what's the problem? I feel like people are longing for the days of level 75 when ***took forever and a day. When AV was impossible to kill because it had so many *** gimmicks that no save group of people could pull them all off. When one person could screw up in Dynamis Windy and screw 18+ people out of gear. Did you enjoy those times? Really? Or are you just *** seeing the past through the thickest nostalgia glasses possible?

You nerf this, something else will be declared broken to fill it's place. Frankly the fact that we have a low barrier of entry for people to ACTUALLY GET the gear they want is far from a bad thing. You want a challenge? Nothing is preventing you from saying "*** SMN" and doing it without.

At some point you are going to have to realize that a game with 22 jobs is never going to be balanced. Not a 15 year old game with barely any devs working on it running on PS-***-2 technology. You want balance? You want dev support? Go play 14.

I like how this argument has been going on for like 6 months at this point and people still don't recognize that AC burn is OP on a whole different level compared to any other zerg in the history of the game. You can't even compare AC burns to any of your examples.

Quite frankly this idea that people are getting things they "didn't earn" because people are using the path of least resistance is stupid. You pretend this game hasn't ALWAYS been about this ***. What was it before SMN? Remember Embrava? Remember SMN spamming Perfect Defense? Remember RNG all the things? Remember NIN tanking?

The game is how old now? How many times must we play this song and dance. Just because YOU don't like a strategy doesn't make it bad. If people are actually clearing things and getting gear then what's the problem? I feel like people are longing for the days of level 75 when ***took forever and a day. When AV was impossible to kill because it had so many *** gimmicks that no save group of people could pull them all off. When one person could screw up in Dynamis Windy and screw 18+ people out of gear. Did you enjoy those times? Really? Or are you just *** seeing the past through the thickest nostalgia glasses possible?

You nerf this, something else will be declared broken to fill it's place. Frankly the fact that we have a low barrier of entry for people to ACTUALLY GET the gear they want is far from a bad thing. You want a challenge? Nothing is preventing you from saying "*** SMN" and doing it without.

At some point you are going to have to realize that a game with 22 jobs is never going to be balanced. Not a 15 year old game with barely any devs working on it running on PS-***-2 technology. You want balance? You want dev support? Go play 14.

Again, let me ask you, without AC, would anything get cleared for anyone?

You talk about all these grand dreams of people forming super complex strategies but you fail to understand that the days of 18+ people being all on the same page have passed. Or are you oblivious to the current server populations.

Given the choice between only the elite being able to clear thing and a good chunk of the population, I pick the latter. Good luck with your whining though.