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my guess maybe they might just rotate vouchers each month.
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Asura.Sechs said: »
99% sure March will have no new gear, but will have a new set of vouchers (which they already announced) for the 5 new sets added recently (Nyzul+Limbus).
As for the future of Ambuscade who knows. I don't expect new gear but I expect them to restart sets from the first one and rotate all of them for the upcoming 10 months.
Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to rotate fights again from the beginning as well.
As for the future of Ambuscade who knows. I don't expect new gear but I expect them to restart sets from the first one and rotate all of them for the upcoming 10 months.
Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to rotate fights again from the beginning as well.
Would be nice of them to rotate fights again that they started with considering some of the Intense were tough to figure out, more time would make it more interesting now that more group will try em. Can definitely steamroll all of the Regulars but 300 points is slow, and it's for "returning" gear anyways so why not, there's gil items to be had for those who already have the gear.
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Rotating fights (and sets) from the beginning all over again has pros and cons.
Some people would complain "OMG SE YOU GUYS ARE SO LAZY!" but then again this offers some pros:
1) Like you said, it gives people other chances to tackle fights which weren't really figured completely at the time
2) Gives people chances to experience fights they missed
3) Gives SE the chance to focus their small resources on other upcoming content (Relic armour reforge?!) instead of keeping to "waste" res time on Ambuscade
Honestly I would be happy if this is the direction they intend to take, but we'll see what happens from April I guess.
Some people would complain "OMG SE YOU GUYS ARE SO LAZY!" but then again this offers some pros:
1) Like you said, it gives people other chances to tackle fights which weren't really figured completely at the time
2) Gives people chances to experience fights they missed
3) Gives SE the chance to focus their small resources on other upcoming content (Relic armour reforge?!) instead of keeping to "waste" res time on Ambuscade
Honestly I would be happy if this is the direction they intend to take, but we'll see what happens from April I guess.
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Omen will also be made available to alliances—not because the new boss can only be tackled with a full entourage of adventurers, but because we want players who might be struggling to be able to tackle the content as well. Players may now also hold two of the requisite key items for entering Omen, so if you want to go twice in a row—or save up some for later—you’ll be able to do just that. In order to avoid congestion, we’ll keep the amount of time that must pass between receive the key item at once per twenty hours for the time being.
F yeaaaaaaah! We can actually put Omen into solid LS event rotation for my group where we usually have more than a party's worth of people! Great change.
Oh they haven't finished ToAU gear, they still have the Assault gear to go through. Yigit, Amir, and Pahluwan gear to rotate through.
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
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we want players who might be struggling to be able to tackle the content as well.
Has anyone verified HP scaling in there? Mostly from the 1~3 man groups that occasionally fight the 3rd floor boss?
Asura.Saevel said: »
Oh they haven't finished ToAU gear, they still have the Assault gear to go through. Yigit, Amir, and Pahluwan gear to rotate through.
Yeah I always liked those models, wouldn't mind seeing them return. They also never reused the Hadean/Phantasmal abjuration sets, and I'd actually be surprised if we don't see them get recycled for something - whether Ambuscade or otherwise.
I personally wouldn't be shocked to see at least one more 6 month round of new Ambuscade armors (5 monthly sets + kupon month) start in April. Perhaps with Kupons for the first two cycles making appearances as well.
Asura.Saevel said: »
Has anyone verified HP scaling in there? Mostly from the 1~3 man groups that occasionally fight the 3rd floor boss?
Nothing but eyeballing, but it doesn't feel to me like it's lower HP for 3 or less as compared to 6/6 party.
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Nothing but eyeballing
I have a pretty good idea about how much TP I need to 1 shot a Sweetwater mob with Leaden. There was no difference between 6 man and goin in solo with only trusts.
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Nothing but eyeballing, but it doesn't feel to me like it's lower HP for 3 or less as compared to 6/6 party.
Ok great, means fights won't get ridiculous though card farming might be a bit ... difficult if the scaling continues like it is. The damage ones require the target to actually have that much HP, and there simply isn't anything that could take 90K from an 18 man Magic Burst.
Asura.Saevel said: »
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Nothing but eyeballing, but it doesn't feel to me like it's lower HP for 3 or less as compared to 6/6 party.
Ok great, means fights won't get ridiculous though card farming might be a bit ... difficult if the scaling continues like it is. The damage ones require the target to actually have that much HP, and there simply isn't anything that could take 90K from an 18 man Magic Burst.
The 30k damage ones don't scale based on 1 or 6 people. If anything HP scaling would help as it would give more opportunity to hit a 30k+ WS or MB on a transcended.
Asura.Saevel said: »
Oh they haven't finished ToAU gear, they still have the Assault gear to go through. Yigit, Amir, and Pahluwan gear to rotate through.
Don't forget Aurum, Enkidu, and Oracles as well.
Asura.Saevel said: »
Oh they haven't finished ToAU gear, they still have the Assault gear to go through. Yigit, Amir, and Pahluwan gear to rotate through.
But again, I'd be happier if they stopped using their energies for Ambuscade and rather focus them on new content instead.
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Oh they haven't finished ToAU gear, they still have the Assault gear to go through. Yigit, Amir, and Pahluwan gear to rotate through.
But again, I'd be happier if they stopped using their energies for Ambuscade and rather focus them on new content instead.
Ambuscade hasn't really used Abjuration gear, figured those would be some new HQ++ Abjuration stuff they will release in four to five months costing 500 mil per piece or something.
As for content there is plenty, the problem is it's always the exact same people who clear everything within the first two weeks then moan for more drugs. SE needs to finish fixing balance at the high end first and foremost.
Would be ok with a reset and back to square one Ambuscade if they used their time to fix h2h.
I miss punching things.
I miss punching things.
So the latest post on official forums makes me believe that just like monsters HP will not scale (do they mean just the normal mobs? Or bosses too? Because that would make bosses ridiculously easy... not that I'll complain eh!), then maybe objectives won't scale either and will be capped at the 6 players number?
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
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Hello, everyone!
In the upcoming March version update, alliances will be able to take on Omen! This will be added as a way for players to help each other for the clear.
Please note that when entering Omen as an alliance, the enemies' HP will not scale based on the number of participants nor will this apply to the amount of loot.
Therefore, players will need to lot against more players when entering as an alliance.
That being said, we encourage players to think carefully about their manpower before tackling their Omen runs based on the purpose of specifically going for the loot or the clear.
In the upcoming March version update, alliances will be able to take on Omen! This will be added as a way for players to help each other for the clear.
Please note that when entering Omen as an alliance, the enemies' HP will not scale based on the number of participants nor will this apply to the amount of loot.
Therefore, players will need to lot against more players when entering as an alliance.
That being said, we encourage players to think carefully about their manpower before tackling their Omen runs based on the purpose of specifically going for the loot or the clear.
Asura.Sechs said: »
So the latest post on official forums makes me believe that just like monsters HP will not scale (do they mean just the normal mobs? Or bosses too? Because that would make bosses ridiculously easy... not that I'll complain eh!), then maybe objectives won't scale either and will be capped at the 6 players number?
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
Well, if currently testing shows HP doesn't scale between 1-6, but objectives do, my guess is HP still won't scale from 6-18, but objectives will.
What this means though is unless they toss in a whole bunch of new mobs it'll be outright impossible doing some of them as you'll clear too fast.
I thought it was just the HP of normal mobs that didn't scale 1-6 but minibosses and bosses HP did scale? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't see obj scaling as a problem, quite the other way around.
The fact you have 18 people in alliance doesn't necessarily mean ALL of them have to engage mobs, no?
They could just, you know, afk? Idle? Or help with other objectives like the 18 MBs, 18 spellcasting etc
I'd prefer obj not scaling over 6 than the other way around, if you ask me.
I don't see obj scaling as a problem, quite the other way around.
The fact you have 18 people in alliance doesn't necessarily mean ALL of them have to engage mobs, no?
They could just, you know, afk? Idle? Or help with other objectives like the 18 MBs, 18 spellcasting etc
I'd prefer obj not scaling over 6 than the other way around, if you ask me.
I don't think anyone will go in with an alliance, but it would be nice to fit extras in. I see a lot of people making statics so some get left out.
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Draylo said: »
I don't think anyone will go in with an alliance, but it would be nice to fit extras in. I see a lot of people making statics so some get left out.
Bringing some friends, going with 8-9 people if one night you got extra friends, and stuff like that.
Could also make it particularly nice for cards farming on alternate path. Bringing a good, larger combination of jobs with obj numbers capped at 6 people, would make it extra easy to complete ALL objectives all 3 floors and get more cards for everyone.
Since, let's face it, the real cockblock with Omen atm, more than gear or even the 20hrs KI thing, is the sheer amount of cards required for each upgrade.
Oh they really shouldn't scale over 6, there aren't enough creatures to scale much higher than it is. The 30 WS ones already require using weaker WS to be safe and not run out of mobs to kill while doing it on the first two floors.
Yeah we found out about that the hard way, if you go too crazy with buffs and your best WSs, you won't have enough mobs for the 30ws Obj lol
They're putting so much emphasis on the clear, it makes me think that you'll need to clear all 5 zone bosses to access the 6th caturae they're introducing. And we'll therefore only be able to fight it about once a week.
Asura.Sechs said: »
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
They should of done it from the beginning. The "penalty" for bringing an alliance is that loot is divided up among all players present, that alone is sufficient enough reward for small groups / statics. Massive HP scaling was one of the dumbest things SE ever did, MMO content should never encourage you to ditch your friends.
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HP scaling would've been better if they just chose a different ratio.
But the one they picked for all their scaling content was, I dunno, it always felt way more punishing than it should've ever been for bringing more people.
It's part of the reason why smaller groups have been so favoured over the last years.
Let's not be hasty though, as usual their comment is super vague.
We know for sure (but we knew it already, didn't we?) that drops won't scale. About HP I won't call myself 100% sure until it has been tested that NMs HP too doesn't scale with 6+ people.
And there's the obj scaling thing too. Again I hope they chose not to scale over 6 as well because otherwise it's gonna be messy (and very stupid on their side)
But the one they picked for all their scaling content was, I dunno, it always felt way more punishing than it should've ever been for bringing more people.
It's part of the reason why smaller groups have been so favoured over the last years.
Let's not be hasty though, as usual their comment is super vague.
We know for sure (but we knew it already, didn't we?) that drops won't scale. About HP I won't call myself 100% sure until it has been tested that NMs HP too doesn't scale with 6+ people.
And there's the obj scaling thing too. Again I hope they chose not to scale over 6 as well because otherwise it's gonna be messy (and very stupid on their side)
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After some thought and examples, Scaling objectives for an alliance is simply rediculous. It would easily everyone to abandon the objectives.
There also would not be enough mobs in each zone to do all the weapon skills, skillchains and magic bursts.
I don't believe they will scale objectives up beyond what they are now.
There also would not be enough mobs in each zone to do all the weapon skills, skillchains and magic bursts.
I don't believe they will scale objectives up beyond what they are now.
Asura.Sechs said: »
I thought it was just the HP of normal mobs that didn't scale 1-6 but minibosses and bosses HP did scale? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't see obj scaling as a problem, quite the other way around.
The fact you have 18 people in alliance doesn't necessarily mean ALL of them have to engage mobs, no?
They could just, you know, afk? Idle? Or help with other objectives like the 18 MBs, 18 spellcasting etc
I'd prefer obj not scaling over 6 than the other way around, if you ask me.
I don't see obj scaling as a problem, quite the other way around.
The fact you have 18 people in alliance doesn't necessarily mean ALL of them have to engage mobs, no?
They could just, you know, afk? Idle? Or help with other objectives like the 18 MBs, 18 spellcasting etc
I'd prefer obj not scaling over 6 than the other way around, if you ask me.
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
This makes the new alliance option sort of... interesting for some scenarios.
They should of done it from the beginning. The "penalty" for bringing an alliance is that loot is divided up among all players present, that alone is sufficient enough reward for small groups / statics. Massive HP scaling was one of the dumbest things SE ever did, MMO content should never encourage you to ditch your friends.
Agreed, I thought it was a huge mistake from the start.
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