Dancing Salvage Bans.

undetectable is a stretch, you do no key input if you use a script command, if it's legit it requires some keypresses

(case in point, set auto disconnect to 20 minutes instead of off, turn on your lastsynth script, you still d/c 20 min later.. no legit way to keep synthing while client is idle)

Its interesting when you says youre craft mule does not do any of those 2 aparently legit commands.

I just hope you understand what a gigantic tool you look like right now crying over this. You can't go from bragging about how much you bot and POS hack to crying innocence and blaming SE for your problems. You cheated. You got banned. End of story.

He wasnt banned. It was his craft mule who was.

This isn't subjective, a judge doesn't need to weigh in on intangibles based on testimonies from eye witnesses. The entire FFXI universe, all the laws, the design of the game, are defined by SE. Seriously, to put it into an analogy, SE is God the Creator. SE knows, without a spec of doubt, what is possible within the universe they created. Simply put, GOD EXISTS in FFXI, and you might be WATCHED, but you will never be certain if HE sees you at the moment you commit the crime. The One Above All, does not need to produce proof in an effort to satisfy a jury. In FFXI, we were given COMMANDMENTS on which to live by, as scribed to us on a tablet of stone. Play the game, enjoy the game (no one put a gun to your head and said pay the monthly fee); but if you F with my DESIGN intentionally by defying the laws of FFXI physics, I will wipe you from existence.




This is getting ridiculous, because they could set up a program that auto-detects anomalies in each zone, target the name responsible for the anomaly, then disconnect the IP producing the anomaly, and then complete the Ban with an automated message sent to the User saying, Banned for breaking the rules. The end. The only difficult part is updating the detection parameters with each update.

To summarize, all people who cheat, are simply lucky that they weren't caught by SE, and that they were not reported by an SE guardian angel, so to speak, another gamer. Because let's face it, the gimp who needs a crutch to stand is easy to spot.

Are you cured from your hangover? Or overdose?

No, actually Cerias farms in rala cause he's to gimp to go to a real camp, and it's for job points, that's why I change his job every month. If it was for Sparks, I'd leave him on a spark farming job.

Nice try though. I know that farming sparks is faster than the fishbotting you do, but the smart people have MUCH better ways to make income than lolsparks. The crabs in rala do not even give sparks for a Record of Eminence, so that would be a pretty stupid spot to farm them.

Cerias, has 60/60 and 200 JP on MNK/SAM/COR/THF. However this is not the account I'm referencing, though Ceri got one too. Even though he was never caught either.

yea, someone I know got perma'd who was still doing salvage I after the salvage II bans

It is hard to resist getting 1000+ alex a day... Especially when you only get a temp ban "eventually" for doing it. On an expendable 3rd or 10th mule account. Doing it on the main is just trouble though.

You seem to be missing 2 very key points...

1. SE doesn't have to "prove" anything, and you have no idea what tools they have at their disposal.
2. You're obviously not as clever as you think you are, if you have a well known bot running 24/7.

If you had read anything, you'd know that neither of your points are accurate. Look back a few posts, instead of insulting your stupidity, I'll leave it to you, to locate and feel bad yourself.

I've read the ToS, SE doesn't ever state a criteria for proof of violations to ToS, there's no burden of proof. They can ban you because they don't like the color of your eyes. FFXI is intellectual property of SE.

As for your "not bot" that you admit farms JP in Rala nonstop... Nobody honestly believes that your "crafting" mule wasn't running around buying mats and crafting in endless scripts. You pissed someone off and they reported you. SE had to have found something at least suspicious, I have yet to hear of someone getting banned who wasn't doing something.

my mule was temp banned on vomp hill never typed anything, never engaged a mob and was not named kyhtdhlfujhf she was named wurmple after the mightiest pokemon ever so yes they are banning without so much as investigating

oh and to add to that was logged in vanilla so as to not skew the testing

The JP farming bot feeds the materials to the craft mule, there's no ah botting, or "endless" crafting.

I know it's all a complicated process to understand, but you never do shady things on a valuable account. You do all the shady things on the throw away.

We can merry-go-round argue for years. Fact is, someone (most likely jp) got their panties bunched. and 2 of my accounts got an automated ban, one you could possibly say was deserved. The other, not a chance. And the main, no clue why it didn't.

The problem I have, and the only problem I have with this, is the lack of legitimacy. If I got popped in the act, I'd be fine with that. If something was provable in the logs, that'd be fine too. But to simply wait until I log the account out and send an email, is a very shitty business practice.

I don't get this point of view. "I've been cheating on this account, but they never caught me!" Isn't the ban essentially saying caught you? I mean, like others said, you brag about botting JPs or whatever. Who's to say they didn't take mercy and figure banning a 5th mule or wtfever the account is was warning enough to stop with the ***?

You keep slinging around that they never caught you. What would you consider "catching you" in your mind? Are you expecting a GM to materialize and have a soul bonding discussion with you about the evils of botting?

Of course its not proof. You can't say "oh hey, we saw you botting like 12 hours ago, but didn't ban you at the time, feel free to keep playing" "well wait until you log out to ban you".

Isn't that like killing someone and thinking you got away with it? Then through evidence even your own admittance you're guilty. Right? Still get caught through evidence then pay for the crime.

You're literally the only person who has claimed such a thing has happened. You're either trolling or it's a false positive because no one has been able to recreate this situation. If they were banning people based on GM calls without an investigation, there'd be hundreds of false bans.

That's the thing though, when you kill someone, there's obviously evidence. When you're "cheating" there is no evidence. You're running around killing things, or crafting things, or buying things. These are all things you would normally do.

I know that you youngins might find it hard to believe I've been in meripo's for 72 straight hours. Was I botting them? No. Was it *** stupid to stay up for 3 days to get merit points? Of course it was.

Any newer player would obviously assuming you're botting if you told them you were in a party for 3 straight days. Is that proof of botting that you stay in a zone killing things for multiple hours? Cause that's the only possible thing they could say. I stayed in the zone for more than 8 hours once or twice, so it must be a bot.

Being banned on the premise of being in a zone too long is pretty shady. And you're all on the side that says, yeah that's good enough to prove it's a bot. That's literally all they have.

Waiting you to log off to make system actions seems normal to me.

Countless times my account was canceled by lack of payments (crysta stuff), but i never was kicked because i didnt pay, but next time i tried to log, i get the message.

I could say you can play eternally without paying if you never log off, but probably SE should have others mechanism to deal with this.

You get kicked off 20~ minutes after PST midnight the day your subscription runs out. It happens to me every month.

You should take it up with the Supreme Court of FFXI !

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This. But I'd guess thousands because there are a lot of vindictive people who would love to get their enemies, competition or just some *** banned.

nah i actually did this to disprove that there were word of mouth bans and i was proven wrong

character was warped then i went to work came back was disconnected and got email for lm-11 i may be the only one who knows i did it on a whim was very curious

would me doing it again but recording it this time prove it or would i hear a bunch of bs about me editing the videos lol

I just wish i could ban someone like that.

The player i reported yesterday is still kicking in odins upper jeuno.