I don't get the Religion vs Science debate... its kinda HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, much like the people who insist on having them. Idiots like Dawkins.
Would you debate democracy vs science, or politics vs science?
How about economics vs physics?
Its amusing how many people just jump on bandwagons and follow them to planet retard.
Back to my Nutella waffles; they're more intelligent than half the drivel posted on here.
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Even the Simpsons....
The Simpsons Paid Tribute to Charlie Hebdo Last Night
You might have missed it while watching the Golden Globes, but The Simpsons managed to squeeze in a short tribute to the slain cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo last night.
Joining the ranks of the many comedians and cartoonists who have expressed their solidarity with the victims at the satirical magazine, The Simpsons inserted a brief message that seemed to riff on Eugène Delacroix’s famous painting Liberty Leading the People (or were they thinking of the poster for Les Misérables?), except this time with the flag hoisted by Maggie:
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The Simpsons Paid Tribute to Charlie Hebdo Last Night
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You might have missed it while watching the Golden Globes, but The Simpsons managed to squeeze in a short tribute to the slain cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo last night.
Joining the ranks of the many comedians and cartoonists who have expressed their solidarity with the victims at the satirical magazine, The Simpsons inserted a brief message that seemed to riff on Eugène Delacroix’s famous painting Liberty Leading the People (or were they thinking of the poster for Les Misérables?), except this time with the flag hoisted by Maggie:
(There is a flash video on the page that I don't know how to insert here.)
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The episode was based on a Judd Apatow script originally written more than two decades ago, but the show still managed to find a brief slot for this image around the episode’s end.
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Yeah *** it, lets give the insulting towards Islam's prophet more publicity, just in case we haven't pissed off enough people already.
Supporting another's right to free speech does not require one to agree with them. It also doesn't require one to adapt the stance of that same person to support their right for free speech.
*** it, it really does look like we're heading towards a war of civilizations because there are way too many morons on both sides.
Supporting another's right to free speech does not require one to agree with them. It also doesn't require one to adapt the stance of that same person to support their right for free speech.
*** it, it really does look like we're heading towards a war of civilizations because there are way too many morons on both sides.
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A clash of civilizations over drawings.
So when does God come down, facepalm and hand the planet over to dolphins?
So when does God come down, facepalm and hand the planet over to dolphins?
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I think the joke is on us - God's already gone "LOLNOPE" at this point.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
A clash of civilizations over drawings.
So when does God come down, facepalm and hand the planet over to dolphins?
So when does God come down, facepalm and hand the planet over to dolphins?
Dolphins?!
You can see them as people insulting Islam, others will see them as journalist who died in a terrorist attack, others will see them as ambassadors of free speech, and so on.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
Eating pork is a great way to spread around the offense on a limited budget. Vegans, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Rastafarians all in one fell swoop.
The extremists should go after pork eaters next so we can have sit ins where we eat bacon in solidarity. Je Suis Cochon.
The extremists should go after pork eaters next so we can have sit ins where we eat bacon in solidarity. Je Suis Cochon.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
You can see them as people insulting Islam, others will see them as journalist who died in a terrorist attack, others will see them as ambassadors of free speech, and so on.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
It won't end at cartoons, it won't end at solidarity marches.
History repeats itself and everyone can look forward to going blind.
But carry on please. #JesuisAhmed; the muslim cop that was killed by these scumbags defending a bunch of idiots that made a living out of insulting his faith.
Blazed1979 said: »
It won't end at cartoons, it won't end at solidarity marches.
History repeats itself and everyone can look forward to going blind.
History repeats itself and everyone can look forward to going blind.
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Because the magazine only poked fun at Islam. Also, as a Christian you don't need to go far to see Jesus ridiculed or as a Jew where the Muslims do a bang up job of going out of their way to insult that faith.
So when do I get murdered?
tl;dr - Deal with it. Everyone is getting insulted out here, either come up with witty retorts or ignore the trolls.
So when do I get murdered?
tl;dr - Deal with it. Everyone is getting insulted out here, either come up with witty retorts or ignore the trolls.
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I'm not Charlie personally, I'm Lulu.
If one can not remain strong in the wake of his or her faith being insulted, without the need to lash out violently, then they are not strong in their faith.
Islam has never had the kind of freedom of expression that other religions have had, and are now faced with it penetrating from outside sources.
It leaves the fanatically devout angry and confused. Lashing out violently (the same ***happened with Christianity and is still happening with it, so don't think I'm unfairly selecting Islam)
The wishes of not giving character form to Muhammad because it would supposedly raise him to a God like figure, has had the opposite effect - He's treated and revered as holy as Allah.
With the character forms of other religious deities, it allows the people to have fun with their religion, and associate better with it, question it, and even remain strong in it. Jesus is not portrayed as an infallible figure, God is portrayed as a loving father figure, rather than a deity, and so on.
Some people create depictions for the sole purpose of annoying others, because it makes them think. It makes them question things they would rather not question - however, they do not become violent in the same manner as those from Islamic faith.
And to counter Blazed's point - they didn't quite make a living out of, considering the dire financial straights they found themselves in by being in the business of pissing people off. Alternatively, they've been much harsher on other figures, both political and religious, around the world, including Christianity and local politicians.
Islam has never had the kind of freedom of expression that other religions have had, and are now faced with it penetrating from outside sources.
It leaves the fanatically devout angry and confused. Lashing out violently (the same ***happened with Christianity and is still happening with it, so don't think I'm unfairly selecting Islam)
The wishes of not giving character form to Muhammad because it would supposedly raise him to a God like figure, has had the opposite effect - He's treated and revered as holy as Allah.
With the character forms of other religious deities, it allows the people to have fun with their religion, and associate better with it, question it, and even remain strong in it. Jesus is not portrayed as an infallible figure, God is portrayed as a loving father figure, rather than a deity, and so on.
Some people create depictions for the sole purpose of annoying others, because it makes them think. It makes them question things they would rather not question - however, they do not become violent in the same manner as those from Islamic faith.
And to counter Blazed's point - they didn't quite make a living out of, considering the dire financial straights they found themselves in by being in the business of pissing people off. Alternatively, they've been much harsher on other figures, both political and religious, around the world, including Christianity and local politicians.
Blazed1979 said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
You can see them as people insulting Islam, others will see them as journalist who died in a terrorist attack, others will see them as ambassadors of free speech, and so on.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
In this song, they're mostly defending the right to shock the weak minded. It's clumsy/suicidal/dumb, but that's what the whole "JesuisCharlie" movement is about.
It won't end at cartoons, it won't end at solidarity marches.
History repeats itself and everyone can look forward to going blind.
But carry on please. #JesuisAhmed; the muslim cop that was killed by these scumbags defending a bunch of idiots that made a living out of insulting his faith.
As I said before:
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From what I've talked with my Muslim friends, they don't really care about the drawings and they thought that the censorship in SP was a waste. I'm naive as *** but I want to believe that there are some Muslims other than them that can go on with their lives and enjoy their spiritual beliefs without giving two shits about drawings of the prophet.
I may not have a religion but I still have things I'm passionate about, or things that I firmly believe in. Am I hurt when they're mocked? Yeah. Can I do anything about it? Nope. Do I waste my time thinking about it? No. Do I wish I Could kill the people who mock those things? No.
Easy life.
Bloodrose said: »
Islam has never had the kind of freedom of expression that other religions have had, and are now faced with it penetrating from outside sources.
If we're going to examine the motivations of terrorists and pretend that there's some sensible reason involved, though, how about the many domestic terrorists here in the US who a.) get caught before they can do anything and b.) are generally white, Christian, right-wing, and male? Fox News pretends those stories don't exist and no one else is going to raise the flag of "Let's understand these lunatics."
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One important question would be: why does al qaeda or isis believe they have the power to judge and condemn someone that suposelly commited a crime?
What make al qaeda or isis believes they are rightfull representative of alah will?
When the brothers kouachi, after killing charlie hebdo people, hugged themselves claiming mohammad was "avenged", makes me laugh as some people are just mentally ill. They arent more than puppets to someone behind curtains pulling the strings. They were mislead by someone who said they had the power to "avenge" mohammad when they werent more than small vermins.
All they managed was to screw muslim people living in ocident.
This attack shouldnt be considered more than a crime, but still, just autorithy condemming the terrorist wont make them suddenly disapear. They are still active, and they are still planning next attack.
Ocident answer to pluralism of cultures/religion was cohexistance as only said ocident countries (democracies) accept that. Orient answer to the pluralism was successives attacks against ocident.
If this keep going, it wont have another solution but ocident fighting for the value they believe are true for them.
What make al qaeda or isis believes they are rightfull representative of alah will?
When the brothers kouachi, after killing charlie hebdo people, hugged themselves claiming mohammad was "avenged", makes me laugh as some people are just mentally ill. They arent more than puppets to someone behind curtains pulling the strings. They were mislead by someone who said they had the power to "avenge" mohammad when they werent more than small vermins.
All they managed was to screw muslim people living in ocident.
This attack shouldnt be considered more than a crime, but still, just autorithy condemming the terrorist wont make them suddenly disapear. They are still active, and they are still planning next attack.
Ocident answer to pluralism of cultures/religion was cohexistance as only said ocident countries (democracies) accept that. Orient answer to the pluralism was successives attacks against ocident.
If this keep going, it wont have another solution but ocident fighting for the value they believe are true for them.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Even the Simpsons....
The Simpsons Paid Tribute to Charlie Hebdo Last Night
You might have missed it while watching the Golden Globes, but The Simpsons managed to squeeze in a short tribute to the slain cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo last night.
Joining the ranks of the many comedians and cartoonists who have expressed their solidarity with the victims at the satirical magazine, The Simpsons inserted a brief message that seemed to riff on Eugène Delacroix’s famous painting Liberty Leading the People (or were they thinking of the poster for Les Misérables?), except this time with the flag hoisted by Maggie:
(There is a flash video on the page that I don't know how to insert here.)
The Simpsons Paid Tribute to Charlie Hebdo Last Night
Quote:
You might have missed it while watching the Golden Globes, but The Simpsons managed to squeeze in a short tribute to the slain cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo last night.
Joining the ranks of the many comedians and cartoonists who have expressed their solidarity with the victims at the satirical magazine, The Simpsons inserted a brief message that seemed to riff on Eugène Delacroix’s famous painting Liberty Leading the People (or were they thinking of the poster for Les Misérables?), except this time with the flag hoisted by Maggie:
(There is a flash video on the page that I don't know how to insert here.)
Quote:
The episode was based on a Judd Apatow script originally written more than two decades ago, but the show still managed to find a brief slot for this image around the episode’s end.
New magazine cover
I find the Muslim leaders quoted here to be extremely insulting. Act like adults and learn that not everyone will arbitrarily honor your beliefs because you think they should be honored.
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Asked to explain the magazine’s front cover, which features a cartoon of a crying Muhammad wearing a “Je suis Charlie” badge under the heading “All is forgiven”, Rhazoui said: “We feel that we have to forgive what happened. I think those who have been killed, if they would have been able to have a coffee today with the terrorists and just talk to ask them why have they done this … We feel at the Charlie Hebdo team that we need to forgive.”
She added: “The two terrorists who killed our colleagues, we cannot feel any hate … The mobilisation that happened in France after this horrible crime must open the door to forgiveness. Everyone must think about this forgiveness.”
Her comments come after fresh condemnation of the Charlie Hebdo magazine by Muslim leaders over the magazine’s new cover.
Omer el-Hamdoon, president of the Muslim Association of Britain, said: “My reaction to the cartoon is disgust, but tending more to annoyance as well because I feel that what’s happening here is not that different from what we witnessed back in 2005 with the Danish cartoons when media outlets went into a cycle of just publishing the cartoons just to show defiance. And what that caused is more offence.”
Speaking on Today, he said causing offence “just for the purpose of offending” was not freedom of speech.
Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan said the latest cartoon had added more salt to the wound.
He said: “If the cartoon had read ‘Je suis Ahmed’, given that many were carrying that badge after the police Ahmed Merabet who was killed, might not have put more salt to the wound but taken it to another level.”
Rhazoui said Muslims could ignore the magazine if they took offence.
She said: “I would tell them it is a drawing and they are not obliged to buy this addition of Charlie Hebdo if they don’t appreciate our work. We are only doing our job, we don’t violate the law.”
She added: “The two terrorists who killed our colleagues, we cannot feel any hate … The mobilisation that happened in France after this horrible crime must open the door to forgiveness. Everyone must think about this forgiveness.”
Her comments come after fresh condemnation of the Charlie Hebdo magazine by Muslim leaders over the magazine’s new cover.
Omer el-Hamdoon, president of the Muslim Association of Britain, said: “My reaction to the cartoon is disgust, but tending more to annoyance as well because I feel that what’s happening here is not that different from what we witnessed back in 2005 with the Danish cartoons when media outlets went into a cycle of just publishing the cartoons just to show defiance. And what that caused is more offence.”
Speaking on Today, he said causing offence “just for the purpose of offending” was not freedom of speech.
Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan said the latest cartoon had added more salt to the wound.
He said: “If the cartoon had read ‘Je suis Ahmed’, given that many were carrying that badge after the police Ahmed Merabet who was killed, might not have put more salt to the wound but taken it to another level.”
Rhazoui said Muslims could ignore the magazine if they took offence.
She said: “I would tell them it is a drawing and they are not obliged to buy this addition of Charlie Hebdo if they don’t appreciate our work. We are only doing our job, we don’t violate the law.”
I find the Muslim leaders quoted here to be extremely insulting. Act like adults and learn that not everyone will arbitrarily honor your beliefs because you think they should be honored.
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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
-summary of Voltaire's De l'esprit
-summary of Voltaire's De l'esprit
Way more worrisome is the reaction of muslim students in France who declare the terrorists as heroes. It will take a lot to change this gigantic problem within the society (which also includes the Front National). Stationing the Army within the country like it's donw now will only worsen the problem.
A guy is already in jail for calling the terrorists heroes.
Don't see why they'd get butt flustered and not learn the lesson.
"You killed us but we forgive you as we understand it was only an extremist minority that I'm sure we would have liked to talk with regarding their attacks".
Now, who's actually open minded, who's actually an adult, who's actually living in 2015, I don't think these questions need to be asked anymore.
On one side you have people who forgive and that guy from Chechnya, on the other side we have these 2 idiots quoted above.
Don't see why they'd get butt flustered and not learn the lesson."You killed us but we forgive you as we understand it was only an extremist minority that I'm sure we would have liked to talk with regarding their attacks".
Now, who's actually open minded, who's actually an adult, who's actually living in 2015, I don't think these questions need to be asked anymore.
On one side you have people who forgive and that guy from Chechnya, on the other side we have these 2 idiots quoted above.
Blazed1979 said: »
Yeah *** it, lets give the insulting towards Islam's prophet more publicity, just in case we haven't pissed off enough people already.
Supporting another's right to free speech does not require one to agree with them. It also doesn't require one to adapt the stance of that same person to support their right for free speech.
*** it, it really does look like we're heading towards a war of civilizations because there are way too many morons on both sides.
Supporting another's right to free speech does not require one to agree with them. It also doesn't require one to adapt the stance of that same person to support their right for free speech.
*** it, it really does look like we're heading towards a war of civilizations because there are way too many morons on both sides.
You speak of that as if it is a bad thing. Maybe that is what is needed.
Why can't religions just each send their strongest fighter every 4 years to a tournament to decide who is right for that term
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Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
Why can't religions just each send their strongest fighter every 4 years to a tournament to decide who is right for that term
Because peace cant be achieved through fight.
Peace just can come from knowledge and justice.
The Olympics would like to have a word with you about that.
My way is entertaining and has less casualties
Pantafernando said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
Why can't religions just each send their strongest fighter every 4 years to a tournament to decide who is right for that term
Because peace cant be achieved through fight.
Peace just can come from knowledge and justice.
Now go and read the definition of that word.
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