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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 22:59:31
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.

I never understood this mentality.

If your child brings home a C, would you tell them that it's good enough and they should be happy with it? Or would you encourage them to keep trying harder?

My point is more that not every kid is going to be good at math, and if they get a C as an objective measure of their ability and not because they spent their study time playing CoD or on Facebook, I wouldn't feel the need to come up with "participation award" style euphemisms for it. "You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Calatilla said: »
What is everyone's idea of fat though, bet it isn't the same as the fashion industries idea of fat.

For Jassik.

Because everyone's a winner!

You clearly didn't read a word I wrote.

You clearly didn't understand what you wrote.

Basically you danced around "everyone's a winner" and went to "oh as long as you tried" its same thing only without the participation trophy. Coddling!

Anyways at least you put forth some effort, even though you contradicted yourself.

Here.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 23:01:28
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I think what you just said is one of the things that's wrong with society.

Every kid can be good at math if they're given the motivation to learn. Not everyone can be amazing, sure, but everyone should at least be able to learn basic calculus, or know the difference between acceleration and velocity, or understand basic principles of a right triangle.

The problem is, there are people out there (if I can pick on you a little bit), who tell them it's ok to not be good at something. Once you zap their motivation to learn, there are very few things that a child is willing to learn voluntarily.

I think the problem here is your definition of "good at something" which is very off from what I would consider it.

Honestly most people don't need to know the properties of a right triangle, so why should they bother with it when it's irrelevant to their lives?


Jet defending ignorance.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-11 23:06:33
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I promote that people do what they enjoy and are good at, and overcome their shortcomings if necessary, if one's goals don't require trig and learning angular momentum, then there's no reason for them to waste their or anyone else's time to learn it.

I can't tell from here, but that looks like a 6550b.


tl;dr I don't participate in the Naruto theory of a genius of hard work.





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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-11 23:09:46
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

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When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 23:19:30
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Jetackuu said: »
Naruto theory of a genius of hard work

Then why post the pic?
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-11 23:21:47
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Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Naruto theory of a genius of hard work

Then why post the pic?

Clearly sarcasm escapes thee.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 23:22:40
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

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When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.

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Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.
Have you ever met a woman?

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"You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Coddling....
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 23:24:57
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Jetackuu said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Naruto theory of a genius of hard work

Then why post the pic?

Clearly sarcasm escapes thee.

I want my million gil.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-11 23:27:32
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Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Naruto theory of a genius of hard work

Then why post the pic?

Clearly sarcasm escapes thee.

I want my million gil.


You didn't get it, disqualified, plus only on Bahamut, no transfers.

I may give Rav half a mil for the lulz though.

(It'd be more, but I'm broke and haven't played in weeks, I'm behind on assaults...)
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-11 23:31:22
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

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When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.

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Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.
Have you ever met a woman?

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"You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Coddling....

Part of being an adult is realizing that not every kid can be an astronaut, someone has to fix cars and clean toilets. There's nothing shameful about admitting your limitations and accepting them. Do you really think it's better to raise a generation of people who cannot cope with failure and beat their wives or shoot up a shopping mall because their best was never good enough? And why do you think we should coddle people who apply or challenge themselves?

Since you seem to completely disagree with everything I said, how do you cope with being hypocritically contrary?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-11 23:35:50
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To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-11 23:40:42
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To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-11 23:45:03
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.
So, control is your answer. How come I'm not surprised?
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-11 23:48:54
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

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When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.

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Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.
Have you ever met a woman?

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"You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Coddling....

Part of being an adult is realizing that not every kid can be an astronaut, someone has to fix cars and clean toilets. There's nothing shameful about admitting your limitations and accepting them. Do you really think it's better to raise a generation of people who cannot cope with failure and beat their wives or shoot up a shopping mall because their best was never good enough? And why do you think we should coddle people who apply or challenge themselves?

Since you seem to completely disagree with everything I said, how do you cope with being hypocritically contrary?

I've said nothing hypocritical. Plus I only completely disagree with not pushing children to their full potential. Saying a C is okay as long as you tried is being a horrible parent.

I'll use my kid as an example! 1st grade, he just came home with a B for math. Exact thing I told him. "You just lost half your allowance, if you can bring your grade up to an A I will bring your allowance back up to normal +50%" He was pissed at me at first but after thinking about it he smiled and said okay dad.

I'm interested to see how long it takes him to take advantage of my little ploy..
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-11 23:57:10
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Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

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When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.

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Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.
Have you ever met a woman?

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"You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Coddling....

Part of being an adult is realizing that not every kid can be an astronaut, someone has to fix cars and clean toilets. There's nothing shameful about admitting your limitations and accepting them. Do you really think it's better to raise a generation of people who cannot cope with failure and beat their wives or shoot up a shopping mall because their best was never good enough? And why do you think we should coddle people who apply or challenge themselves?

Since you seem to completely disagree with everything I said, how do you cope with being hypocritically contrary?

I've said nothing hypocritical. Plus I only completely disagree with not pushing children to their full potential. Saying a C is okay as long as you tried is being a horrible parent.

I'll use my kid as an example! 1st grade, he just came home with a B for math. Exact thing I told him. "You just lost half your allowance, if you can bring your grade up to an A I will bring your allowance back up to normal +50%" He was pissed at me at first but after thinking about it he smiled and said okay dad.

I'm interested to see how long it takes him to take advantage of my little ploy..

You give him an allowance? Socialist.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-12 00:02:47
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
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I don't see why we need "plus sized" models or why we need PR friendly terms like it.

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Sure, most "plus sized" women could probably lose a few pounds with minimal effort beyond changing habits or taking up a semi-active hobby, but as long as they are content with who they are, there should be no need to coddle or shame them.

Quote:
When I hear "fat" I think of someone who is large as a result of their own habits or lack of aspiration. If someone sits on the sofa all day eating junk food and is overweight, I don't think we should try to come up with nice ways of saying it

Once again, you clearly did not read what I wrote.

Quote:
Sure, not every woman is going to be a perfect size 6, but the more important question is if she is happy with herself image regardless of outside influence.
Have you ever met a woman?

Quote:
"You did your best, and there's nothing wrong with a C." as long as they actually gave it their best effort.

Coddling....

Part of being an adult is realizing that not every kid can be an astronaut, someone has to fix cars and clean toilets. There's nothing shameful about admitting your limitations and accepting them. Do you really think it's better to raise a generation of people who cannot cope with failure and beat their wives or shoot up a shopping mall because their best was never good enough? And why do you think we should coddle people who apply or challenge themselves?

Since you seem to completely disagree with everything I said, how do you cope with being hypocritically contrary?

I've said nothing hypocritical. Plus I only completely disagree with not pushing children to their full potential. Saying a C is okay as long as you tried is being a horrible parent.

I'll use my kid as an example! 1st grade, he just came home with a B for math. Exact thing I told him. "You just lost half your allowance, if you can bring your grade up to an A I will bring your allowance back up to normal +50%" He was pissed at me at first but after thinking about it he smiled and said okay dad.

I'm interested to see how long it takes him to take advantage of my little ploy..

You give him an allowance? Socialist.

Funny how you pick that word outta my whole paragraph. If it makes you feel better his "allowance" is for doing good in school and the chores he does at home. Sounds funny to say I docked my child's pay...
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-12 00:06:45
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.

How exactly are the poor gonna starve with all the benefits they currently have? All your taxes are gonna do is make the middle class poor so they can then receive said benefits. Who you gonna tax then? The rich? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-12 00:32:24
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Funny how you pick that word outta my whole paragraph.


I think you might be onto something...
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-12 01:18:25
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Cerberus.Kyka said: »
*snip*

Your reading comprehension is terrible and you're projecting a lifetime of self-hate onto me. You're welcome to disagree with me, I don't really care what you think, but don't post when you're hangry.
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By Bloodrose 2014-11-12 01:56:54
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Are you completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or do you simply prefer to act in a way that reflects upon others with intelligence that you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE?

First, that part about giving medical advice to people over a forum being a civil claim is EXTREMELY LIMITED, as all persons with even a spec of dust betwixt their ears should always consult a medical professional regardless. Then again, most doctors, which are held to the standard of knowledge, don't get sued despite the damage they do to patients 1. against their will, 2. against better medical judgment, 3. because they refuse to acknowledge certain prescriptions, 4. refuse to acknowledge or accept insurance claims, 5. Decide to wait for necessary surgeries because of insurance claims etc. - the list can go on.

You do earn the respect you are given. One mentally insufficient person's ramblings about 35 years in business (failing to mention which business, or the scope of basic responsibilities or habits formed within that business) people rise and fall from grace in the business world all the time, regardless of first impressions. They only last forever, when the person gives others reason to keep it.

I've worked long enough to know this. As has every successful person out there.

Gordon Ramsay was a dish *** back in the day - one of the most degrading - but honest - jobs in the culinary world, and he did that job with no hope of moving up in the world for almost 4 years. Guess where he is now? Oh right, one of the top grossing chefs in the world.

People change over time by accepting what they failed at, or are given incentive to do so. If they have no incentive or desire to change, or change how they are perceived by others, then it won't happen.

Hell, my brother started out as a dish *** before moving his way up to Kitchen Manager, and guess what, he earned the respect and trust he has, despite, at one time, being called one of the previous manager's "boy".

People can look at that term two different ways - "We're sending in our boy", in this context means "yo, this guy is one of ours, and we trust him to do the job, and we want you to know that", versus your absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE view of "we're sending in the boy" - which would be a simple errand runner, but still, someone they trust enough to do the job and get it done. Even if it's just running a coffee or latte for the admins. Doing the job right and effective can get you all sorts of ins and opportunities.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-12 02:01:36
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.
So, control is your answer. How come I'm not surprised?

I'm sorry, did I lay the sarcasm down too thick for you? Do I really need to use the sarcasm tags?
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-12 02:02:24
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Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.

How exactly are the poor gonna starve with all the benefits they currently have? All your taxes are gonna do is make the middle class poor so they can then receive said benefits. Who you gonna tax then? The rich? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1. lol, you and your tax the middle class delusions.

2. you and your "the poor have too many benefits" delusions

3. you need to reread what I said.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-12 02:25:50
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Jetackuu said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To be honest, what does it matter if a person is fat or not anyway?

It's their health, not yours. It's not like you or anyone else is affected by another person's weight.

If you are truly cacomorphobic, then there is no help for you at all. Go live in a cave and keep away from people, period.

Increased societal costs, America's obesity is a monetary issue, unfortunately if we taxed food then the poor would starve, so there's no easy fix for it.

Well maybe if we destroyed modern about everything and required people to work in fields and walk 10 miles to school in the snow uphill etc.

How exactly are the poor gonna starve with all the benefits they currently have? All your taxes are gonna do is make the middle class poor so they can then receive said benefits. Who you gonna tax then? The rich? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1. lol, you and your tax the middle class delusions.

2. you and your "the poor have too many benefits" delusions

3. you need to reread what I said.

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By Cerberus.Krystela 2014-11-12 02:38:35
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My Idea of plus size seems to be very different from the media :/

I mean, we can see her bones xD I get she may be larger then the other models, but she is definitely not plus size. She just look like a good curvy looking girl and by curvy I mean larger hips, not everyone have the hips size of a 6 years old D: or can have them.
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By Cerberus.Kyka 2014-11-12 03:18:17
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Bloodrose said: »
Cerberus.Kyka said: »
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Are you completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or do you simply prefer to act in a way that reflects upon others with intelligence that you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE?

First, that part about giving medical advice to people over a forum being a civil claim is EXTREMELY LIMITED, as all persons with even a spec of dust betwixt their ears should always consult a medical professional regardless. Then again, most doctors, which are held to the standard of knowledge, don't get sued despite the damage they do to patients 1. against their will, 2. against better medical judgment, 3. because they refuse to acknowledge certain prescriptions, 4. refuse to acknowledge or accept insurance claims, 5. Decide to wait for necessary surgeries because of insurance claims etc. - the list can go on.

You do earn the respect you are given. One mentally insufficient person's ramblings about 35 years in business (failing to mention which business, or the scope of basic responsibilities or habits formed within that business) people rise and fall from grace in the business world all the time, regardless of first impressions. They only last forever, when the person gives others reason to keep it.

I've worked long enough to know this. As has every successful person out there.

Gordon Ramsay was a dish *** back in the day - one of the most degrading - but honest - jobs in the culinary world, and he did that job with no hope of moving up in the world for almost 4 years. Guess where he is now? Oh right, one of the top grossing chefs in the world.

People change over time by accepting what they failed at, or are given incentive to do so. If they have no incentive or desire to change, or change how they are perceived by others, then it won't happen.

Hell, my brother started out as a dish *** before moving his way up to Kitchen Manager, and guess what, he earned the respect and trust he has, despite, at one time, being called one of the previous manager's "boy".

People can look at that term two different ways - "We're sending in our boy", in this context means "yo, this guy is one of ours, and we trust him to do the job, and we want you to know that", versus your absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE view of "we're sending in the boy" - which would be a simple errand runner, but still, someone they trust enough to do the job and get it done. Even if it's just running a coffee or latte for the admins. Doing the job right and effective can get you all sorts of ins and opportunities.

Bloodrose, this conversation was between me and another person - but fine, I'll answer your questions. First addressing people that have a "speck of common sense". How often have you seen ridiculous lawsuits in the news, example man breaks into family's home, gets shot by owner, then sues owner and wins?

There are people out there that will read things on the internet, take it as gospel and trudge forward with their mission, completely ignoring the "smart things" that they should be doing. If someone on the internet tells them, oh don't worry about it, the only reason you are fat is because you sit around and don't exercise - go out and exercise and they do that without consulting a doctor (and that does happen all the time - did you consult a doctor the last time you exercised???)....when in fact they have a serious underlying medical condition that may cost them their lives.

As far as my career. I worked for a local government agency that employee over 5000 employees. I did in fact start out as an assistant to the Director's Secretary and moved my way up thru the ranks until I was the only full charge Accountant that ran all of the accounting and purchasing business for the entire department. This was a Leisure Services Department, so it was a very busy department that kept me going from the moment I walked in in the morning until well past the time I left at night.

And I WAS in the situation where the Admin Secretary did say "I'll send my GIRL" around to pick that up" and I can tell you that person never treated me with an ounce of respect, even after I out ranked them in position and pay - simply because of first impressions (I also never had any business dealings with them, so our contact was very sporadic - so when they saw me their first thoughts probably were "oh, that's the "girl" from Leisure Services"....instead of that is the Head Accountant from Leisure Services)

Believe me, how you address people does have a big impact on how they are perceived. As an accountant I was more of a quite person that stayed on the side lines and observed - that was my job - and what I observed was plenty.

PS - be careful about calling someone HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE when you know nothing about them, ***. But looking at your other posts, it looks like you thrive on confrontational, abusive type posts -- - so insult away, ***. I could care less about you, I've already formed my opinion of you and trust me, you are sorely lacking in mental facilities.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-11-12 03:24:02
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Cerberus.Kyka said: »
If someone on the internet tells them, oh don't worry about it, the only reason you are fat is because you sit around and don't exercise - go out and exercise and they do that without consulting a doctor (and that does happen all the time - did you consult a doctor the last time you exercised???)....when in fact they have a serious underlying medical condition that may cost them their lives.

Food has a fixed amount of energy, measurable in calories(and the information is available for essentially anything you could eat in a first world country).

Fat is excess energy being stored.

Doing things requires energy.

Doing things while fat requires even more energy(moving more weight).

If you use more energy than you consume, you lose weight.

There's no medical condition I can think of that makes it impossible to lose weight, all your body really needs is a baseline of protein and a few vital nutrients. If you choose to eat more than what you use and gain weight, that's nothing you can blame on anything else.

(Per your last post, steroids can cause weight gain because they make your body want you to overeat. I gained weight on steroids. I don't need to pretend that makes it any less my fault, nobody held a gun to my head and forced me to eat more than what I burned.)
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I like where this is going.
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Oh ***:

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By Cerberus.Kyka 2014-11-12 04:08:01
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Cerberus.Kyka said: »
If someone on the internet tells them, oh don't worry about it, the only reason you are fat is because you sit around and don't exercise - go out and exercise and they do that without consulting a doctor (and that does happen all the time - did you consult a doctor the last time you exercised???)....when in fact they have a serious underlying medical condition that may cost them their lives.

Food has a fixed amount of energy, measurable in calories(and the information is available for essentially anything you could eat in a first world country).

Fat is excess energy being stored.

Doing things requires energy.

Doing things while fat requires even more energy(moving more weight).

If you use more energy than you consume, you lose weight.

There's no medical condition I can think of that makes it impossible to lose weight, all your body really needs is a baseline of protein and a few vital nutrients. If you choose to eat more than what you use and gain weight, that's nothing you can blame on anything else.

(Per your last post, steroids can cause weight gain because they make your body want you to overeat. I gained weight on steroids. I don't need to pretend that makes it any less my fault, nobody held a gun to my head and forced me to eat more than what I burned.)

Are you a doctor with doctorate degrees with specialties in multiple dieses and different organs of the body? There are dieses that do cause weight gain on a large scale. Hypothyroidism, edema, Cushing's syndrome, Depression is a short list of conditions. There are medications that will cause weight gain - medications that you have to take to keep you alive. My ex-husband currently is taking 12 different prescriptions and 9 of them have the side effects of weight gain in the first 3 listed side effects.

If you have cancer one of the main things they prescribe is medical grade steroids to help boost your system so that it helps your body as they bombard it with poison to kill of the cancer cells. Not only does the steroids ruin your teeth if you are exposed to them long term, they will cause excessive hunger and weight gain.....now you are deathly ill with cancer - having poison pumped into your to kill off cancer cells - you are going to cut back on your food, get off the couch and go exercise to lose that excess weight to get yourself skinny?

NO YOU WILL NOT - BECAUSE THAT WILL WEAKEN YOU AND THE CANCER WILL WIN.

You arm chair doctors make me sick. My sister died of cancer and had to deal with you people that sneered at her because she was overweight - overweight because she fought 10 long years for her life, being tortured with modern medicine that caused her to gain that weight.

So until you walk in my DEAD SISTER'S SHOES and live the hell she did - learn about what you are talking about first. Go to medical school before you open your mouth or type your drivel.
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