All For One, And More For Me: A Guide To Red Mage

So you are actually getting more duration with skirmish body & 3/5 over 4/5 empy? Isn't it with 4/5 you get +35% duration vs 3/5 only getting 20% duration?

Seems like the skirmish body you would get 3/5 for 20%, skirm body =10% & cape/feet. meaning 20+10+16+19(in your case)+30%= 95% Correct?
Which would make 4/5 = 35% + 16% + 19% + 30% = 100%
Maybe I am missing something but it seems like you might be losing out. Am I wrong?

Protey was testing self-cast duration, not casting on someone else, so the empyrean set bonus isn't a part of that.

When casting haste on someone else, 4/5 119 empy + af 119 hands + cape(max) should be 180 * 1.35 * 1.2 * 1.46
3/5 instead but with skirmish body (max) should be 180 * 1.2 * 1.2 * 1.56, which would be a lower duration.

Also, Protey, thank you for testing that. It seems that a good cape augment is even more valuable then.

Ahh yeah makes sense now.


Edit: upgraded to lethargy and i ended up losing duration. Down to 6:21 instead of the 6:45 I had.

Indeed. Over 100 refractives later and I still can't get from +19 to +20. I'll keep at it... along with the 3/5 telchine augmented with +10 duration.... though it might take awhile as so few people are doing yorcia alluvion anymore and so duskdims are sparse.

Did the full 119 upgrade, using 4/5 lethargy +1, Atrophy +1 hands with +20 duration cape (I got lucky after 3 crystals)

Haste II is lasting 7:05 on pt/ally

as expected:

duration = (base spell time)(set bonus)(enhancing duration gear)(cape duration)

duration = (180s)(1.35)(1.46)(1.2) = 425s = 7m 5s

Still confused as to why I was getting that 6:45 for a while without lethargy and only +12 cape

You're saying the set bonus works on alliance members as well?

set bonus works on anyone other than yourself. does not have to be in party or anything; just doesn't work on yourself (unfortunately).

You will have to excuse the lack of organization here. Trying to get a few jobs done so we can have gearsets updated gearsets all in one place.

This is what I am using, so good chance I will not have perfect sets here.


idle/precast

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magic

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melee

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Didn't look through those sets very closely and I'm assuming a lot of your choices are based on what you have, not necessarily what's optimal, but yetshila shouldn't be in your savage blade set unless it's /THF using SATA.

No I generally use Oreiad's Tathlum, but I think I got hung up on seeing yeshila over and over.

Making all those gearsets on here and updating drk gearsets in a matter of 2 hours at work on a cellphone wasn't easy.

anyone could help me with rdm rule for day on my Mes'yohi Slacks please, they add + 25 magic acc depending on they day or maybe i should stick with lethargy pants +1?

use Vanya slops with MND+10 Augment I'd recommend.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/index.php/Vanya_Slops

for enfeebles? no way. Psycloth Lappas Path B:

INT+40, MND+30, magic accuracy+20, enfeebling skill+18

augmented path B: additional magic accuracy+10, and MND+7

Atoyac, Demersal Degen +1 or Blurred Knife +1 for offhand?

Your best WS, even with mythic, is going to be CDC. You want a Nibiru blade off hand with Path A augments along with Taeon and tons of DEX, Atk / Acc and Triple attack. Try to get some extra DW on the feet. My RDM's melee / CDC set is almost identical to by BLU's sets. You want lots of enhancing skill for self buffs, I can get something like 80~81 damage on mine and with all that multi-hit they add up. Temper was 20% DA at 500 Enhancing and its looking like SE is going to be raiding that.

As for "tanking", not likely going to happen. RDM lacks any serious hate tools since SE nerfed the enmity on spammable enfeebles. You could possibly try to cure-cheat your way but with native Tranquil Heart it's going to be an uphill battle. RDM is pretty sturdy to begin with so if / when you do pull hate then your chances of survival are pretty solid.

Heavily dependent on your attack ratio, but more than likely, if you don't need utsusemi, /WAR will be your best route for DPS. RDM gets a lot more multi-attack than they used to, and fencer is a substantial increase in damage. It is worth noting, though, that with all the dual wield RDM can get now, /NIN might take back over as your attack increases.

Just make sure you change your ws to savage blade if you go the fencer route.

Because it's one hit with a crazy high fTP, especially with Fencer, gets full benefit from WSD, and is a 50% STR/MND mod, which really caters to RDM's gearsets.

How much TP bonus does Fencer grant from /WAR? I know that 2k+ Savage has the ability to outperform 1k CDC, but we also have to look at the ability to spam CDC at 1k, which can often hit as hard or stronger than Savage.

200TP bonus and 5% crit rate for /WAR. I haven't played in a while, but Savage blade at 1400TP + Fencer + Moonshade was putting CDC to shame. That might have changed with Taeon gear. But, WSD is going to affect Savage WAY more than CDC. It might come down to a Zerk up Zerk down situation.

Hmmm, good points. I suppose that particularly with good WSD augments and the blurred shield or +1 that it could easily pull ahead.

RDM can't use blurred shield