Does Islam Require Forced Conversions?

Btw, Sweden must be in the top 3 countries(if not the first)in the world for quality of social conditions. You just have no idea how to even understand what you posted.

Wait, are you defending Dubai's post and findings?

Speaking of censorship, I laughed when that guy posted "s*x". Like it's a bad word lol.

Are there amendments and bills passed with their backing based in religious scripture?

A secularist state doesn't care about what the religion of their politicians is. Obliging any politician to make public what their faith is, is at the complete opposite end of secularism - in theory.

That is not to say that politicians are not free to practice their faith publicly, as long as the pillars of government are not religiously charged in rhetoric - in theory.

I say in theory, because I am not naive enough, or ignorant, enough to think that coalitions and groups of faith are not formed and exercise influence over American Governance. They exist and there's a lot of them. But there's nothing stopping other religions from seeking the same representation.

Back on point though - Egypt's government actually persecutes Islamist though. They're public enemy #1 now, not just in Egypt but in the Gulf.

sux isn't a bad word~

It isn't governed largely by christianity... It's also harder to find single politicians without kids... It's just a picture painted to become more electable. It really has nothing to do with the decisions made or the government being run by christians... You said it yourself... try getting them to admit it. Doesn't mean they aren't actually atheist or agnostic just another thing to convince us all that they are convincing liars...

There really only seems to be a few hot button issues that really even bring up religious sentiment like abortion or gay marriage.

People can also be religious and also be able to make decisions while putting aside their faith.

In the end though politicians play to the audience... A big part of the problem is us.

Are you sure they are persecuting Muslims for being Muslims, or Muslims for breaking the law?

Also, answer my above question!

That's a very nice straw you have there Blazed, but I never spoke of government. As Milamber pointed out on the previous page.

I dont mind continuing the convo, but I'd like you to quickly google "Islamist" and then google "Muslim".

I tried to explain culture, not religion, was the thought here too.

I went so far as to say that it's not the religion's fault local cultures use it to justifty awful things.

He didn't want to hear that, so he didn't.

Not a straw man. I actually did read that too fast and just read "Muslim" without the culture part, which does change the subject of contention a fair bit.

In my defense though, I'm not guilty of anything you guys haven't done yourselves a fair bit.

I'm not refuting anything you said. All I'm saying is that it's slightly flawed to say American politics is free of Christian influence.

I will grant you that. My mistake.

It's refreshing when someone actually admits being mistaken. It happens once every 250 threads.

With regards to "Muslim culture".
There is no such thing.
Bare with me for a second and please attempt to describe Muslim Culture.

Done, now answer my questions.

Not to derail but:


Do you have a link to any source on this?

Edit. Nvm. Found some stuff on it and more.

How deplorable.

I said Egypt's government persecutes Islamists, not muslims. The trial is on-going at the moment in the state vs the brotherhood. The charges are political in nature.

EDIT: That should be sufficient. at least it would be for someone who knows what an Islamist is and what a Muslim is.

That's a political move, not religious.

But your earlier assertion makes it sound like Egypt is prosecuting people based on religion, since that was the topic at the time.

But again, are you defending Dubai's post about rape in the Middle East vs. the world? Even though several people have told you why the data and findings are completely wrong?

We are all on SO many watchlists now. Thanks guys!

***like the global gag rule for one.

Stating that the American government is largely governed by Christianity is much different than it not being free of Christian influence.

All the guy was saying is that The U.S.A. and Egypt are technically Secular states and he is right. It does not mean they are free of influence from other factors and christianity is far from the only thing to influence a politican and doesn't seem to be the most significant either.

Ok *takes off clothes*

tinfoil hat time?

Cleary it's not the evolutionist that will admit to this, it came from a creationist!

Eh?