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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-01 17:38:35
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
What the *** did I just tell you? YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM MISTER

/getsverklemptf

I got a lot of love to give!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-01 17:42:13
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
What the *** did I just tell you? YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM MISTER

/getsverklemptf

I got a lot of love to give!

Well wrap it up AND get snipped, or get ready to pay for the consequences because Nausi and Flav are pretty dead set on your genetic line carrying on whether you like it or not.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-01 17:43:36
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Ebola = Abortion now? What is wrong with you people?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-01 17:45:37
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
What is wrong with you people?

well I grew up in the 80's, so there's that.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-08-01 17:47:29
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
What is wrong with you people?
Gimme a few to compile a list.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-01 17:54:35
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ebola = Abortion now? What is wrong with you people?


Well, an abortion is like vaginally localized ebola, with the whole liquid organ/blood soup just kind of cascading out in a thousand shades of crimson.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-01 17:55:41
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ebola = Abortion now? What is wrong with you people?


Well, an abortion is like vaginally localized ebola, with the whole liquid organ/blood soup just kind of cascading out in a thousand shades of crimson.

Suddenly I'm reminded of that scene from The Shining....
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-01 19:06:07
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-01 19:14:02
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I thought they weren't trying to cause panic over this lol

CDC Sets Up Quarantine Station At LAX As Ebola Virus Continues To Spread Overseas

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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The Centers for Disease Control have established a quarantine station at LAX to prevent the spread of the deadly Ebola virus from passengers coming off international flights.
The CDC is warning Americans to avoid the Ebola-ravaged nations of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea where more than 700 people have died.
Tom Bradley International Terminal now has a CDC quarantine station where health officials will determine whether a sick person getting off an international flight can enter the country.
“We’re fairly comfortable that if a patient were identified here in the U.S., that the normal kinds of barrier nursing precautions that would be in place would prevent spread, even before the person would be confirmed to be a case of Ebola,” Dr. Stephan Monroe said.
Two American aid workers have been infected with the virus in Liberia.
One is taking an experimental serum, while the other is being flown to a special isolation treatment center in Atlanta.

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Siren.Mosin said: »
@Baconwrap

what I said was taken completely out of context

Oh yeah I shouldn't have quoted you my bad. Fixed that =) My point a few pages back was directed at people who don't see what hardships come from caring for a child with a debilitating condition.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-08-02 00:13:38
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The WHO made an anouncement yesterday that the outbreak was spreading faster than the efforts to control it.

I don't think it is causing a panic so much as taking necessary precautions. Since ebola has made its way into Nigeria, Africa's most populated country.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28610112
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The Ebola outbreak in West Africa is spreading faster than efforts to control it, World Health Organization (WHO) head Margaret Chan has said.

She told a summit of regional leaders that failure to contain Ebola could be "catastrophic" in terms of lives lost.

But she said the virus, which has claimed 728 lives in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone since February, could be stopped if well managed.

Also, over 60 health professionals have died so far from Ebola. There seems to be some on the ground problems with outbreak procedures or something.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-02 00:20:13
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Since ebola has made its way into Nigeria's capital.

It's in the capital now? Oh jeez, I hope the prince is okay. That guy owes me money.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-08-02 00:23:41
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Sorry, not capital.
Just woke up. Should not post before coffee. ; ;

Into Africa's largest country.

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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-08-02 01:02:07
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
My point a few pages back was directed at people who don't see what hardships come from caring for a child with a debilitating condition.

I don't think most people understand what is required of the parents who have children with debilitating conditions. But I also think most people have only have an abstract idea of what those conditions are (some of the ones previously mentioned) and how they affect the children involved.

It is a difficult choice and each set of parents should understand the consequences of their decision.

I volunteered at a home for disabled children in FL and most of them were wards of the state. Their parents could either:
a) not able to handle the care needed for their children on their own
B) not able to afford the care for their children
C) not able to handle the hourly stress of caring for the children
D) parents had died and no family member wanted to take on the children
E) any or all of the above
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 08:13:14
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You guys know the BBC is a state-sponsored news source right?
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-02 22:46:42
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It's in the capital now? Oh jeez, I hope the prince is okay. That guy owes me money.

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By Bahamut.Ahleah 2014-08-03 00:07:48
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You are safe, since you are in Australia New Zealand.
This morning was scary, I work less than 1 mile from Dobbins Air Force Base. After watching the news feed of this, we talked to several military personnel from both Army + Air Force branches (common regular customers at my restaurant) about the incident. With Atlanta being the home of the Center for Disease Control, (I know you all remember The Walking Dead! =p) there was a CDC team in place on base already before this even occurred. Didn't make it any less ominous feeling knowing such a dangerous threat was flown right over my head, and then driven (omfg couldn't we afford a chopper to speed things up?) down the road I use to/from work each day en route to Emory Hospital.

As to someone's comment about why its here, Emory Hospital contains the leading group of researchers and experts on infectious diseases. Also, see above CDC comment.
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By Bahamut.Ahleah 2014-08-03 00:13:03
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Also wanted to add, to anyone who watched the live feed of the first patient arriving at the hospital.......wtf! They kept showing pictures of the doctor who was supposedly infected, but the "person" that was escorted from the ambulance, couldn't have been any larger than an infant child at most. "It" was all wrapped up in a clothing bundle of some type, but visually, the manner in which the two people handled "it" suggested it was a person in the size/weight range of a 1-2 yr old from what I saw. *shrug*

Just saying, either it was a small child, or something else was being transported....
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-03 00:15:51
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Hope they are able to cure him, the medical community has lost enough people for 1 month.
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By Bahamut.Ahleah 2014-08-03 00:33:32
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There are bioweapons far more deadly than the Ebola virus in storage in the US. You have nothing to worry about. I find it kind of funny that people are actually scared, all things considered.


EDIT: Not to mention enough nukes to blow the world up 5 times over. but carry on worrying about a medical patient, infected with a known virus that can be cured and treated, who will be isolated and not come into contact with any other human beings physically.
Well, I mean, coming less than a week after this: "Top Ebola doctor dead in African outbreak; local airline suspends flights"

I know there are worse things out there, but damn man, Ebola is no joke. Alot of the old "plagues" and epidemics were due to lack of any significant medical care. Smallpox isn't going to rampage through the US and kill 100,000 ppl like it did when it was first discovered. Ebola, we still don't have any true cure for it though. As someone earlier stated, give the patient water and pray is about all we got. Just because its more easily nurtured and created in third world areas, doesn't mean we can't transmit it person-to-person here JUST as fast if not faster with our rapid methods of transit and high population areas.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-03 00:40:21
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I have to admit, "Don't worry about the deadly disease, because there's deadlier diseases" is about the stupidest reasoning I've ever heard.

Better to say is "don't sweat it, media hype just like every yearly strain of Flu."
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-03 00:49:08
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That doesn't mean that the idea of having nukes on our bases makes Ebola less of an issue isn't stupid.
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It's ok, China had some plague:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/23/it-s-not-time-to-worry-about-china-s-plague-just-yet.html
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-06 11:01:45
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Reuters.com said:
Liberia shut a major hospital in the capital Monrovia on Wednesday after a Spanish priest and six other staff contracted Ebola, as the death toll from the worst outbreak of the disease hit 932 in West Africa.

The outbreak of the deadly hemorrhagic fever has overwhelmed rudimentary healthcare systems and prompted the deployment of troops to quarantine the worst-hit areas in the remote border region of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

The World Health Organization (WHO) reported 45 new deaths in the three days to August 4, and its experts began an emergency meeting in Geneva on Wednesday to discuss whether the outbreak constitutes a "Public Health Emergency of International Concern" and to discuss new measures to contain the outbreak.

International alarm at the spread of the disease increased when a U.S. citizen died in Nigeria late last month after flying there from Liberia. The health minister said on Wednesday that a Nigerian nurse who had treated the deceased Patrick Sawyer had herself died of Ebola, and five other people were being treated in an isolation ward in Lagos, Africa's largest city.

In Saudi Arabia, a man suspected of contracting Ebola during a recent business trip to Sierra Leone also died early on Wednesday in Jeddah, the Health Ministry said. Saudi Arabia has already suspended pilgrimage visas from West African countries, which could prevent those hoping to visit Mecca for the Haj in early October.

Liberia, where the death toll is rising fastest, is struggling to cope. Many residents are panicking, in some cases casting out the bodies of family members onto the streets of Monrovia to avoid quarantine measures.

Beneath heavy rain, ambulance sirens wailed through the otherwise quiet streets of Monrovia on Wednesday as residents heeded a government request to stay at home for three days of fasting and prayers.

"Everyone is afraid of Ebola. You cannot tell who has Ebola or not. Ebola is not like a cut mark that you can see and run," said Sarah Wehyee as she stocked up on food at the local market in Paynesville, an eastern suburb of Monrovia.

St. Joseph's Catholic hospital was shut down after the Cameroonian hospital director died from Ebola, authorities said. Six staff subsequently tested positive for the disease, including two nuns and 75-year old Spanish priest Miguel Pajares, who is due to be repatriated by a special medical aircraft on Wednesday.

TROOPS DEPLOYED IN OPERATION "WHITE SHIELD"

Spain's health ministry denied that one of the nuns - born in Equatorial Guinea but holding Spanish nationality - had tested positive for Ebola. The other nun is Congolese.

"We hope they can evacuate us. It would be marvelous, because we know that, if they take us to Spain, at least we will be in good hands," Pajares told CNN in Spanish this week.

Healthcare workers are in the front line of fighting the virus, and two U.S. health workers from Christian medical charity Samaritan's Purse caught the virus in Monrovia and are now receiving treatment in an Atlanta hospital.

The two saw their conditions improve by varying degrees in Liberia after they received an experimental drug, a representative for the charity said.

Three of the world's leading Ebola specialists urged the WHO to offer people in West Africa the chance to take experimental drugs, too, but the agency said it "would not recommend any drug that has not gone through the normal process of licensing and clinical trials".

Highly contagious, Ebola kills more than half of the people who contract it. Victims suffer from fever, vomiting, diarrhea and internal and external bleeding.

Many regular hospitals and clinics have been forced to close across Liberia, often because health workers are too afraid of contracting the virus themselves or because of abuse by locals who think the disease is a government conspiracy.

In an effort to control the disease's spread, Liberia has deployed the army to implement controls and isolate severely affected communities, an operation codenamed "White Shield".

The information ministry said on Wednesday that soldiers were being deployed to the isolated, rural counties of Lofa, Bong, Cape Mount and Bomi to set up checkpoints and implement tracing measures on residents suspected of coming into contact with victims.

Neighboring Sierra Leone said it has implemented new restrictions at the airport and that it was asking passengers to fill in forms and take a temperature test.

Some major airlines, such as British Airways and Emirates, have halted flights to affected countries, while many expatriates were getting out, government officials said.

"We've seen international workers leaving the country in numbers," Liberia's Finance Minister Amara Konneh told Reuters.

Greece advised its citizens on Wednesday against non-essential travel to Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria and said it would take extra measures at its entry ports.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-06 11:27:32
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Drugmakers' use of the tobacco plant as a fast and cheap way to produce novel biotechnology treatments is gaining global attention because of its role in an experimental Ebola therapy.

The treatment, which had been tested only in lab animals before being given to two American medical workers in Liberia, consists of proteins called monoclonal antibodies that bind to and inactivate the Ebola virus.

For decades biotech companies have produced such antibodies by growing genetically engineered mouse cells in enormous metal bioreactors. But in the case of the new Ebola treatment ZMapp, developed by Mapp Pharmaceuticals, the antibodies were produced in tobacco plants at Kentucky Bioprocessing, a unit of tobacco giant Reynolds American.

The tobacco-plant-produced monoclonals have been dubbed "plantibodies."

"Tobacco makes for a good vehicle to express the antibodies because it is inexpensive and it can produce a lot," said Erica Ollmann Saphire, a professor at The Scripps Research Institute and a prominent researcher in viral hemorrhagic fever diseases like Ebola. "It is grown in a greenhouse and you can manufacture kilograms of the materials. It is much less expensive than cell culture."

In the standard method of genetic engineering, DNA is slipped into bacteria, and the microbes produce a protein that can be used to combat a disease.
Tobacco-derived 'plantibodies' enter the fight against Ebola
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-06 11:53:40
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Bahamut.Ahleah said: »
Just because its more easily nurtured and created in third world areas, doesn't mean we can't transmit it person-to-person here JUST as fast if not faster with our rapid methods of transit and high population areas.
No.

Ebola is transmitted person-to-person through direct contact of bodily fluids so the likelihood of catching it out in the open are very low unless you regularly exchange bodily fluids on the bus or other highly-populated areas, in which case, stop doing that.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-06 11:57:53
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bahamut.Ahleah said: »
Just because its more easily nurtured and created in third world areas, doesn't mean we can't transmit it person-to-person here JUST as fast if not faster with our rapid methods of transit and high population areas.
No.

Ebola is transmitted person-to-person through direct contact of bodily fluids so the likelihood of catching it out in the open are very low unless you regularly exchange bodily fluids on the bus or other highly-populated areas, in which case, stop doing that.

see!? and you said hiding in our homes wearing tin foil hats was bad!

who is ebola free laughing now!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-06 12:00:28
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bahamut.Ahleah said: »
Just because its more easily nurtured and created in third world areas, doesn't mean we can't transmit it person-to-person here JUST as fast if not faster with our rapid methods of transit and high population areas.
No.

Ebola is transmitted person-to-person through direct contact of bodily fluids so the likelihood of catching it out in the open are very low unless you regularly exchange bodily fluids on the bus or other highly-populated areas, in which case, stop doing that.

So how'd those old nuns get it...exchanging bodily fluids indeed...
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-08-06 12:06:36
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
No.

Ebola is transmitted person-to-person through direct contact of bodily fluids so the likelihood of catching it out in the open are very low unless you regularly exchange bodily fluids on the bus or other highly-populated areas, in which case, stop doing that.

It's transmitted similar to Rabies. Saliva is a route of transmission for Ebola. The physician who contracted Ebola from the patients wasn't exactly sharing needles with them lol

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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-06 12:07:19
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Well, Ramyrez, there are good nuns and then there are naughty nuns...

But in all seriousness, they probably got it from caring for the infected without having access to the proper protective gear.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-06 12:10:57
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Well, Ramyrez, there are good nuns and then there are naughty nuns...

But in all seriousness, they probably got it from caring for the infected without having access to the proper protective gear.

Your first answers was closer to the one I was imagining.

Your realistic scenarios are neither wanted nor appreciated here.
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