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 Bismarck.Snprphnx
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-08-03 06:46:10
For the record, anyone who says that the symbol of America is anything other than the Bill of Rights is a dumbass.
First and only secular Radical Christian (pretends to be secular) state founded for the protection of the individual who ever is useful at the time against the group deemed 'the enemy' guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, enforced by the rule of law intimidation and brute force, protected by the militia from threats within and without forced aboard.
That is why American Exceptionalism isn't just some annoying thing Republican's go on about, it's a historical fact myth.
***, the UK is technically still a Theocracy under the Monarchy who still is head of the Church of England. ftfy.
American history is filled with hating and persecuting individuals that are from one group to the next group.
It's easier to list ethnic groups and cultures that America hasn't persecuted.
I also agree with you, but that's an execution issue. If a lot of the constitution was upheld and observed as well as applied on all human beings, be they foreigners or nationals, that wouldn't be the case.
The bill of rights is an exceptional document. Every nation on earth should seek to have their own. That won't make things perfect, but its a step in the right direction.
The current state of the US is due to corruption and a lax disenchanted, over-entertained, disenfranchised, unaware, isolated and overworked public.
The wealth disparity in the states is fuggin crazy, yet they're sitting there eating that ***and asking for more. Agreed, especially the bold part. But like you said, execution has fallen short.
The execution hasn't fallen short, but the current interpretation by both citizens and local, state, and federal government agencies continually pushing, pulling, and twisting the laws to suit their own agendas.
 Lakshmi.Saevel
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-08-03 07:04:32
From the 2nd source, as it's the least biased one:
Quote: Netanyahu said Hamas would pay an "intolerable price" if it continued to attack Israel. If being the key word.
Are you seriously considering an entity like Hamas not trying to kill Jews? You realize that's how they get all their funding and support. The peaceful Palestinian movement is Fatah, the guys running the PA and the west bank. You know, the ones not shooting rockets into Israel.
Your suggesting the US conservative party cease supporting Christianity or the Democrats cease supporting socialization.
 Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-08-03 07:24:38
So Hadar goldin being captive by Hamas was another lie by Israel/Likud, we gonna blame this one on Hamas too right?
Even when they accept all the condition, there is no cease fire.
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/ceasefire-against-evidence.html
By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 09:23:07
The peaceful Palestinian movement is Fatah, the guys running the PA and the west bank. You know, the ones not shooting rockets into Israel.
Thank you. I'll be back soon.
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By fonewear 2014-08-03 09:37:21
I learned more by not reading the last three or four pages than I would have by reading them...
By fonewear 2014-08-03 09:38:25
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »82 pages of pure troll, i've been reading backwards, its great. Not everyone is trolling sir. 
 Ragnarok.Zeig
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2014-08-03 12:36:30
That is what you get when you elect a group like Hamas into power. It's also the reason why the Egyptian military tossed out the Muslim Brotherhood, much to the dismay of Progressives everywhere. Not defending the Muslim Brotherhood's brief run, but if you're really trying to say that the military stepped in (it was a coup, Sisi just repeated what Jamal Abdul-Nassir did, coup -> presidency, history indeed repeats itself) to protect democracy, then that's not how democracy works.
You're not that stupid, so I just assume that you're *big surprise* biased (they're the Muslim brotherhood after all, there's enough scare in their name).
Sisi running for presidency (and winning it!) was the best joke of 2014. A huge setback for Egypt. Let's not talk about all the media outlets that were shut down, all the detained journalists, the silly trials, etc.
 Quetzalcoatl.Maldini
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-08-03 12:58:26
I can't help but laugh, while at the same time feel guilty for feeling so superior to Hanity... and everyone who actually thinks like him.. if you can call that thinking.
Russel Brand is such a bawsssss
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-03 13:30:48
Well, there are at least a few of us here that are willing to admit the stupidity of both sides. I'll take that as long as you're also willing to admit that there are a great deal of Americans who have no idea what it is going on in Palestine and speak very passionately for Israel based on what their local churches and politicians quote from the Bible and other racist dogma. It's hard to talk about events taking place in a place that doesn't actually exist.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-03 13:31:43
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »82 pages of pure troll, i've been reading backwards, its great. Not everyone is trolling sir. Don't project your own shortcomings on others either.
By Enuyasha 2014-08-03 13:56:06
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »82 pages of pure troll, i've been reading backwards, its great. Not everyone is trolling sir. Don't project your own shortcomings on others either. Related:
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Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-08-03 14:08:29
We're so close of 100 pages yet so far :(
By Enuyasha 2014-08-03 14:14:22
We're so close of 100 pages yet so far :( one day, one day.
By fonewear 2014-08-03 14:57:22
100 pages that is 99 pages too long !
By fonewear 2014-08-03 15:35:05
To summarize the Middle East:
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By marivell 2014-08-03 15:40:47
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FV04A20140730
I'm not really an expert at the situation that is ongoing there, but THIS is unacceptable. Period.
I don't care what people might think, UN are there to help anyone in need, and all countries agreed a long time ago to let these volunteers do their damn job in a relatively stable environement!
It's sad to say a lot of people forgot about Geneva's 4th convention and the basic human rights for civilians stuck in these conflicts...
I feel like it's a sad day for all.
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By fonewear 2014-08-03 15:46:08
UN helping people since when ?
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By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 15:53:24
99% of Israeli Casualties and deaths are Soldiers.
90% of Palestinian casualties and deaths are civilians, children and women.
You cannot be a sensible, rational, sane and decent human being and be calling for the death of civilians. You cannot support Israel and reconcile the two!
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-03 15:55:32
100 pages that is 99 100 pages too long !
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By fonewear 2014-08-03 15:56:43
When I need a dissertation on the Middle East I"ll be happy to cite FFXIAH.
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-08-03 16:05:06
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-03 16:13:50
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FV04A20140730
I'm not really an expert at the situation that is ongoing there, but THIS is unacceptable. Period.
I don't care what people might think, UN are there to help anyone in need, and all countries agreed a long time ago to let these volunteers do their damn job in a relatively stable environement!
It's sad to say a lot of people forgot about Geneva's 4th convention and the basic human rights for civilians stuck in these conflicts...
I feel like it's a sad day for all. I may be wrong, but I don't believe the Geneva convention applies when combating terrorists.
By marivell 2014-08-03 16:29:37
"This sets out the overall parameters for GCIV:
Article 2 states that signatories are bound by the convention both in war, armed conflicts where war has not been declared, and in an occupation of another country's territoryn(...)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention
And if you still think Geneva's 4th protocol is still irrelevant, then you can also read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_humanitarian_law
I could cite dozen of international laws and protocols, the fact remains innocents and humanitarian workers should never be a target.
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-08-03 16:29:52
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FV04A20140730
I'm not really an expert at the situation that is ongoing there, but THIS is unacceptable. Period.
I don't care what people might think, UN are there to help anyone in need, and all countries agreed a long time ago to let these volunteers do their damn job in a relatively stable environement!
It's sad to say a lot of people forgot about Geneva's 4th convention and the basic human rights for civilians stuck in these conflicts...
I feel like it's a sad day for all. I may be wrong, but I don't believe the Geneva convention applies when combating terrorists.
On the Legalities of the Israeli offensive
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By Blazed1979 2014-08-03 16:34:42
Zionist Crusader mourns what Israel has become:
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-03 16:40:12
Yeah, can't watch that Maldi
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-03 17:22:15
If we post enough anti-Israel videos, will that eventually erase the evils of Hamas? Because clearly there are a few posters in here with a one-track mind.
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By volkom 2014-08-03 17:33:45
99% of Israeli Casualties and deaths are Soldiers.
90% of Palestinian casualties and deaths are civilians, children and women.
You cannot be a sensible, rational, sane and decent human being and be calling for the death of civilians. You cannot support Israel and reconcile the two!
sure you can. they're not the ones using civilians as shields
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Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-03 18:12:17
So in summary because women and children are claimed to used as human shields, then it's perfectly acceptable to murder then.
What a wonderful group of people we have here. We're way beyond double standards now and into the land of people who love to just watch others suffer and die. Sadistic I believe is the term.
If we post enough anti-Israel videos, will that eventually erase the evils of Hamas? Because clearly there are a few posters in here with a one-track mind. Hey if we fund the people that blow up enough women and children Israel will be seen as defending itself, right?
Well, there are at least a few of us here that are willing to admit the stupidity of both sides. I'll take that as long as you're also willing to admit that there are a great deal of Americans who have no idea what it is going on in Palestine and speak very passionately for Israel based on what their local churches and politicians quote from the Bible and other racist dogma. It's hard to talk about events taking place in a place that doesn't actually exist. Just because you personally don't recognize a place as not existing doesn't mean the rest of the world, aka outside the U.S., does.
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By volkom 2014-08-03 18:25:50
So in summary because women and children are claimed to used as human shields, then it's perfectly acceptable to murder then.
What a wonderful group of people we have here. We're way beyond double standards now and into the land of people who love to just watch others suffer and die. Sadistic I believe is the term.
No. Its not okay to kill innocent people. However israel can't put an end to the violence that constantly occurs against its country if they were worried too much about collateral damage. To me, they're doing everything they can to protect the civilians at the same time trying to take out hamas.
No one said ***when the US/British carpet bombed every city in germany. Look at the innocent death rate back then
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