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By Jetackuu 2014-07-31 18:44:04
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Your source was only going on about one part of a very large book, and not to mention that being a professor doesn't disregard the fact that the words are still in the book.

This is as bad as the Christians who say the Christian god is all about love while entirely ignoring the old testament.

Talk about bat ***crazy.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-31 18:46:12
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And of course, he'd cherry pick, while accusing me of doing so.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-07-31 18:58:05
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neither of you have actually read the Quran. That much is clear.

Neither of you actually know anything about the middle east, jews or arabs, that much is also clear.

Also 900 beheadings does not = millions upon millions of anything. learn to count.

Bani Quraytha were found guilty of treason - even in modern day standing armies, treason is punishable by death.

Bani Quraytha:

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

Jews living within Islam:
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-31 19:03:55
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Aside from your failed attempt at calling us ignorant the rest has been posted already in one way or another, almost all by BR, so...reposting it as an attack is kinda dumb.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-31 19:05:56
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A single day also doesn't equate to 1400 years of persecution, humiliation, pillaging, and rape, or treating them as less than human.

So I would say "LEARN TO READ" but it's obviously beyond you at this point.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-07-31 19:07:36
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
A single day also doesn't equate to 1400 years of persecution, humiliation, pillaging, and rape, or treating them as less than human.

So I would say "LEARN TO READ" but it's obviously beyond you at this point.

You've shown your flawed subjective sources on the killings of Jews, I've shown mine. Anyone reading can judge for themselves. Its a pitty you didn't capitalize on this by enlightening yourself and coming out from under your rock.

Now, please do present these Quranic verses that you mentioned.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 19:40:56
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eslim said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
A single day also doesn't equate to 1400 years of persecution, humiliation, pillaging, and rape, or treating them as less than human.

So I would say "LEARN TO READ" but it's obviously beyond you at this point.
who's the victim in this plot? i can't tell which "side" ur talking about.
Canadians, obviously.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-31 19:44:57
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I'm going to start quoting the Silmarillion as my holy book and see how far I can get.
By volkom 2014-07-31 19:45:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
care to explain Surah of the Children of Israel, verse 104?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-07-31 19:51:54
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I'm going to start quoting the Silmarillion as my holy book and see how far I can get.

Blaspheming scum. There is only Altana.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 19:56:00
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Jetackuu said: »
Your source was only going on about one part of a very large book, and not to mention that being a professor doesn't disregard the fact that the words are still in the book.

This is as bad as the Christians who say the Christian god is all about love while entirely ignoring the old testament.

Talk about bat ***crazy.
Judaism = Old Testament.
Christianity = New Testament.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-07-31 19:57:04
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Same God in both books.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 20:04:01
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Same God in both books.
Just like Allah is the same god as well.
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By Ciri Zireael 2014-07-31 20:04:17
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Has someone said we need to nuke Israel yet? I haven't kept up with this thread at all.
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-31 20:06:31
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Your source was only going on about one part of a very large book, and not to mention that being a professor doesn't disregard the fact that the words are still in the book.

This is as bad as the Christians who say the Christian god is all about love while entirely ignoring the old testament.

Talk about bat ***crazy.
Judaism = Old Testament.
Christianity = New Testament.
Not entirely, but keep trying.

Euclids Cfinder said: »
Has someone said we need to nuke Israel yet? I haven't kept up with this thread at all.

I'm pretty sure they said to wipe them both out, not sure if they said nuke though.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 20:07:14
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Euclids Cfinder said: »
Has someone said we need to nuke Israel yet? I haven't kept up with this thread at all.
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By Carbuncle.Peimei 2014-07-31 20:10:37
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So has this thread ended the conflict yet?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 20:12:08
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Sorry, my bad. It was 271k not 227k.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-31 20:14:25
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Carbuncle.Peimei said: »
So has this thread ended the conflict yet?
It caused this: Hamas and Israel agree 72-hour Gaza ceasefire.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-07-31 20:15:13
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volkom said: »
Children of Israel, verse 104
Common and popular misunderstanding of the verse, is what I am sure you are referring to; a prophecy for the land of Israel.

There does not appear to be a prophecy in 17:104 if read in the Arabic and compared with 17:7. This may be a problem with translations. Let me show you.

First, there is no 'second' in the Arabic as is commonly translated (i.e. when the 'second' of the warnings...). Also note carefully the Arabic in bold and in the illustration. I will translate it more literally from the Arabic for you to make the point.

017:007
"If you do good, you do good for yourselves and if you do evil, (you did it) against yourselves. So when the promise of the last came (Arabic: Fa-idha jaa wa'du l-akhirat), (we permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Masjid as they had entered it (the ) first time, and to destroy what they had conquered (with destruction)"

Note the phrase "Fa-idha jaa wa'du l-akhirat" (So when the promise of the last). In the above verse, it is clearly referring to a past event most likely a reference to the destruction of the Temple in AD70 by the Romans.

What is important to note is that the same phrase is used in 17:104

017:104
"And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell in the land (of promise)": So when the promise of the last of the warnings came (Arabic: Fa-idha jaa wa'du l-akhirat), We gathered you together in a mingled crowd"

The rest Spoilered because its a huge explanation:

source: http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=58.0
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-07-31 20:21:26
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Didn't you give up Maldini?

You wanted an unbiased source, but the only sources you are willing to accept are from biased people.

But then again, everyone is biased.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-07-31 20:22:08
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Didn't you give up Maldini?

You wanted an unbiased source, but the only sources you are willing to accept are from biased people.

But then again, everyone is biased.
Give up on what?
By volkom 2014-07-31 20:22:20
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have any actual academic references to back that up besides a forum post?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-07-31 20:22:44
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Carbuncle.Peimei said: »
So has this thread ended the conflict yet?
It caused this: Hamas and Israel agree 72-hour Gaza ceasefire.
They got tired of our bickering and fighting.

The two leaders got together and said "Man, our ***is bad, but have you SEEN those guys on FFXIAH.com? We should stop fighting for a weekend just to shut them up!" and signed a ceasefire.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-07-31 20:23:14
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Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Didn't you give up Maldini?

You wanted an unbiased source, but the only sources you are willing to accept are from biased people.

But then again, everyone is biased.
Give up on what?

Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »
I'm done talking with you.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-07-31 20:30:41
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volkom said: »
have any actual academic references to back that up besides a forum post?
volkom said: »
have any actual academic references to back that up besides a forum post?
I'm sure there are some in response to people citing bad translations of arabic into English due to lack of understanding of the language. But its such a trivial matter and easily recognized as bad translation that even the most hardlined advocates of Israel don't use it as a justification, because they're completely aware of it being a really bad translation.
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-07-31 20:30:57
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Carbuncle.Peimei said: »
So has this thread ended the conflict yet?
It caused this: Hamas and Israel agree 72-hour Gaza ceasefire.
They got tired of our bickering and fighting.

The two leaders got together and said "Man, our ***is bad, but have you SEEN those guys on FFXIAH.com? We should stop fighting for a weekend just to shut them up!" and signed a ceasefire.

nah, they didn't even hit up ffxiah. The double points weekend, so no time to war, gotta stock up for next version update. Also, I need someone to start a petition for Idi's Ledelsens to drop in my treasure pool.

Monday, once it's over, all hell will break loose again. The one other thing through this whole sudden surge of interest in Israel...did the world run out of things to talk about, so we suddenly swung over to Israel and went HOLY CRAP LOOK WHAT JUST SUDDENLY STARTED HAPPENING!?

when I try to put it in perspective, I just can't fathom why some land over there is more sacred than the dirt outside my apartment. Far as I'm concerned the whole earth should be holy land, not specific spots, end of the day, the only cancer ends up being humanity. oh well.
 
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