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 Asura.Tamoa
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By Asura.Tamoa 2014-07-05 09:18:07
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Ccl poke me in game if this is actually going to happen, I wanna watch.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-05 10:24:52
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sure
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-07-05 10:27:10
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
is this entire page sarcasm or is conagh's ego seriously so bloated he thinks he can beat a good koga w/ his tsuru

Well, there not much difference numberswise btw the two really. It comes down to aggressive playstyle and timing. And as much as I like to compete with/rib Conagh, he has (and can) beat good Koga user.

No, you just play with garbage you think is good. This isn't a new phenomenon.
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-07-05 11:07:23
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run a spreadsheet, make sure to use hit overuns and TP+ gear(moonshade) which vastly favor fudo.

And Sam white damage...lol.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-05 11:12:13
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
run a spreadsheet, make sure to use hit overuns and TP+ gear(moonshade) which vastly favor fudo.

And Sam white damage...lol.

Let's bet 100m then that I win ?
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By Asura.Dakenx 2014-07-05 12:21:34
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-07-05 12:22:09
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
which vastly favor fudo.

Because Koga won't be using Fudo? I don't get it?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2014-07-05 12:37:19
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Bismarck.Inference said: »
Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
which vastly favor fudo.

Because Koga won't be using Fudo? I don't get it?
I think Tachi: Koki still gets you bacon
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-07-05 12:42:46
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Samurai Union is defunct, but the laws of Koki are eternal.

Yea and didest thou tremble before the might of bacon.
Koki be thy name.

Havest doth Ridill drop by my might.
Koki be thy name.

Grant me your heart and deliver unto you shallest I.
Koki be thy name.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2014-07-05 13:04:48
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Let there be Twitch.

Also, I wooshed some people with Koki: TH the other day, felt old.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-07-05 13:04:56
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I'm liking this thread. More please.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-05 13:15:46
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Bismarck.Inference said: »
Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
which vastly favor fudo.

Because Koga won't be using Fudo? I don't get it?


Maybe he think Tsuru overtp more than koga ? (LOL)
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-07-05 13:27:18
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Inb4 "closed minded elitist who don't understand that with love and friendship any DPS is possible" comments.
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By Shiva.Devastation 2014-07-05 13:47:43
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Samurai Union is defunct, but the laws of Koki are eternal.

Yea and didest thou tremble before the might of bacon.
Koki be thy name.

Havest doth Ridill drop by my might.
Koki be thy name.

Grant me your heart and deliver unto you shallest I.
Koki be thy name.

Holy ***, this made me laugh pretty good.
Koki be thy name.
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2014-07-05 16:34:33
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Beat a good Koga user? He can't even beat me and my Vere =(
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By Cerberus.Watanabie 2014-07-05 16:41:28
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Also beat him using Spharai and nothing but Final Heaven. trololol
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-07-05 16:41:50
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can i do butt stuff to the loser ?
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By Valmur 2014-07-05 17:16:24
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Ustav got dibs on that
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-07-05 17:56:45
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i will use ustav as a condom to to butt stuff to the loser
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-07-05 18:03:41
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Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
can i do butt stuff to the loser ?

yes it is worth it
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-05 18:22:15
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I miss doctorugh already :( I wish he would post more.
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By Refia1 2014-07-05 23:48:37
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Doctorough has good posts, but u need to read what was posted previously. It just falls down to the player skill, on paper koga will not be touched. If an idiot is behind that wpn, the results will favor the better player who knows wtf. The OP seem a bit out of touch tho xD
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-07-06 09:23:49
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With Koga can you get hit-hit WS?, I don't think miser's is strong enough with Koga, but I could be wrong. Perhaps I'm in error, or perhaps people aren't using Miser's roll with the new ring.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-07-06 09:42:28
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
With Koga can you get hit-hit WS?, I don't think miser's is strong enough with Koga, but I could be wrong. Perhaps I'm in error, or perhaps people aren't using Miser's roll with the new ring.

Koga gains a rather significant Multihit Bonus.

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Aftermath Lv.1 floor( TP÷10 + 20 ) Accuracy 1.5 minutes
Aftermath Lv.2 floor( TP×0.6 - 80 ) Attack 2 minutes
Aftermath Lv.3 Occasionally Attacks twice or thrice (40%/20%) 3 minutes


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DMG:224 Delay:450 Great Katana skill +242 Parrying skill +242 Magic Accuracy skill +215 Enhances "Third Eye" effect V "Tachi: Rana" Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk. Occasionally attacks twice or thrice
LV 99 SAM

Compared to the 243 Damage on Tsurumaru and both have the same Delay meaning STP build being similar, you could use the exact same sets as Tsurmaru and Still out parse it IE 5 hit with 40% chance to DA and 20% to TA meaning you have a 1 in 5 chance to Triple (so 4 his in tp phase is a pretty solid possibility) and DA 1~2 of those hits meaning you would match a TP feed on Tsurumaru without trying plus gain more TP overfeed than a Tsurmaru would which on Fudo is rediculously powerful.

I would surmise it comes down down to the duration of the fight and whether you get to use afull 3 minutes of AM3 (IE starting at 300 tp for fight and it last 3minutes) Granted the damage from a 300 tp Fudo vs a 300 TP rana would squewer things for the start, but koga is about tp over time, I'd argue the next 2 ws's would get you back assuming 1300+ (and moonshade tp bonus) would put you a considerable amount ahead of Tsurumaru's average TP per WS, 20 Damage is nothing compared to potenitally adding a 50~60% increase in WS frequency (assuming Misers) or 40% without (Approx not exact maths), realistically to compensate a 30% increase in DA would compensate the Save TP effects from Tsurumaru easily, fact is this has alot more to offer in terms of TA and DA over it and shouldn't lose.

Don't even need a Spreadsheet to look at it and go "wow" this is the ***.

Gaining 40% DA on this weapon would destroy any Tsurumaru ~
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-06 09:43:13
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Even with miser tsuru is still behind koga. As you said before go run a spreadhseet.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-07-06 09:44:05
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UHG This thread became too much about SAM.

Back to OP ~
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-07-06 09:52:27
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Alright Conagh, jumping on game, lets go parse. Hit 30k on shark with Upheaval yesterday......good times.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-07-06 09:54:22
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Cerberus.Doctorugh said: »
Alright Conagh, jumping on game, lets go parse. Hit 30k on shark with Upheaval yesterday......good times.

Sigh I do have a buyer for shark >.>
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By Gilgamesh.Schmule 2014-07-06 10:06:33
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Buying Delve wins?

So it's 2013 again??
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By Cerberus.Doctorugh 2014-07-06 10:18:48
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Ah, mistake on my part (and bgwiki). If you look up koga some have listed 40% DA only and others have 40%DA AND 20% TA. This was overlooked by me.
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