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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Phoenix.Xantavia said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » In papal news: Pope Francis's take in US Politics You know, I respect the man who is probably the most marked for assassination due to his religion for speaking in public. But his viewpoints in foreign politics is about as meaningful as a US citizen going to Italy and making comments about Italian politics...which is basically what he is doing. No doubt his words have influence, but still...he shouldn't bother with topics that are unfamiliar to him. It doesn't fit the definition of one, but people will disagree with me out of principle. Quote: 1. Vatican City is the smallest country in the world. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres, making it one-eighth the size of New York’s Central Park. Vatican City is governed as an absolute monarchy with the pope at its head. The Vatican mints its own euros, prints its own stamps, issues passports and license plates, operates media outlets and has its own flag and anthem. One government function it lacks: taxation. Museum admission fees, stamp and souvenir sales, and contributions generate the Vatican’s revenue. You are right.
My apologies. fonewear said: » Olive Garden is not truly authentic Italian cuisine ! Even the breadsticks?! I watched the Pope's speech before Congress. I feel that he's hypocrite and lost a lot of respect for him. He made some subtle jabs at same-sex marriage, abortion, and planned parenthood. When he was making those jabs I felt like saying something about all the children his priests have raped. Meh, as long as he doesn't attempt to backseat rule this country, he can say whatever he wants to. To me, I tend to ignore a person's opinion about the US who has never stepped foot here, what does that person know about internal US politics?
Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. Do you think it's ok for somebody outside your country to go to your capital and tell your politicians what to do? Because if so, I'll be over there in Italy in a bit and give them an earful. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. Do you think it's ok for somebody outside your country to go to your capital and tell your politicians what to do? Because if so, I'll be over there in Italy in a bit and give them an earful. tl;dr US Politicians welcomed the Pope but most likely don't give a ***about what he had to say. It's for show. Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. Do you think it's ok for somebody outside your country to go to your capital and tell your politicians what to do? Because if so, I'll be over there in Italy in a bit and give them an earful. tl;dr US Politicians welcomed the Pope but most likely don't give a ***about what he had to say. It's for show. I'm not saying this because I'm not religious either. But then again, our SOS does pretty much the same thing at other countries, so I guess we should just roll with the punches. Or stop that practice period... Well apparently, the pope's speech made Boehner cry. Ok then.
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. Do you think it's ok for somebody outside your country to go to your capital and tell your politicians what to do? Because if so, I'll be over there in Italy in a bit and give them an earful. tl;dr US Politicians welcomed the Pope but most likely don't give a ***about what he had to say. It's for show. I'm not saying this because I'm not religious either. But then again, our SOS does pretty much the same thing at other countries, so I guess we should just roll with the punches. Or stop that practice period... Shiva.Viciousss said: » Well apparently, the pope's speech made Boehner cry. Ok then. Phoenix.Amandarius
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Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Anna Ruthven said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. Do you think it's ok for somebody outside your country to go to your capital and tell your politicians what to do? Because if so, I'll be over there in Italy in a bit and give them an earful. tl;dr US Politicians welcomed the Pope but most likely don't give a ***about what he had to say. It's for show. I'm not saying this because I'm not religious either. But then again, our SOS does pretty much the same thing at other countries, so I guess we should just roll with the punches. Or stop that practice period... I'm not saying we shouldn't respect the guy though. If he wants to come visit, then let him. Shouldn't let him make policy speeches though, or at the very least invite him to do so. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. If they are "not" US specific, then why is he at the US Capital? Why is he speaking before Congress? Why not just speak at Vatican City? While the topics are not US specific, his speech most certainly is. He did it to call into question particular US policies and upcoming laws. It's both disrespectful and distasteful. The Church has no right to speak on matters of science/medicine, let alone federal laws. He was invited to speak to Congress so he spoke. /shrug
Shiva.Viciousss said: » He was invited to speak to Congress so he spoke. /shrug When you get invited somewhere you generally don't go to disrespect people. That's like getting invited to dinner and insulting/correcting people when you get there. Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » The Church has no right to speak on matters of science/medicine, let alone federal laws In his defense, most of Congress isn't really qualified to talk about any of that stuff either Drama Torama said: » Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » The Church has no right to speak on matters of science/medicine, let alone federal laws In his defense, most of Congress isn't really qualified to talk about any of that stuff either In the defense of Congress, they haven't been proven wrong on matters of science since the days of Galileo. Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » Homosexual marriage and abortion are not us-specific. They're social topics that partain the whole world. If they are "not" US specific, then why is he at the US Capital? Why is he speaking before Congress? Why not just speak at Vatican City? While the topics are not US specific, his speech most certainly is. He did it to call into question particular US policies and upcoming laws. It's both disrespectful and distasteful. The Church has no right to speak on matters of science/medicine, let alone federal laws. The pope frequently serves as a mediator and advisor to other nations. It's not like that's a new thing. I don't like the idea of religious leaders speaking before Congress in a religious context, and his speech wasn't religious, though it was very Christian. The Catholic church actually has a long history of investigating and practicing science and medicine. They've even got official positions in those fields, they even have an observatory. If you really want to get pedantic, he was here as the leader of a sovereign nation, and I didn't hear many people complaining about Netanyahu telling congress what they should do. I suppose it's different. If you had a religious body questioning your federal rights before congress you'd be a bit ticked off too.
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » I suppose it's different. If you had a religious body questioning your federal rights before congress you'd be a bit ticked off too. I'm not sure which federal rights you're referring to. I don't like religious ideology affecting affairs of state on any level unless they coincide with secular ideology. "Murder is bad", for example, isn't an exclusively religious idea. I wouldn't even have a problem with banning abortion if there was a secular ideology behind it, like radically declining population or if we discovered that zygotes had consciousness, etc. Josiahkf said: » You lead a religion with a billion people worldwide and key countries around the world are large parts of huge conflict? why wouldnt you go visit them and try to talk to them? Not to mention the USA has a lot of influence, for good or bad, throughout the world and convincing us to take up a cause for the future of humanity has more impact than convincing Belgium, for example. |
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