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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-09-08 12:19:37
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>>Handle accounts for terrorists and drug cartels.
>>Punished monetarily.
>>"Justice"
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-08 12:23:11
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with an economist.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-09-08 12:24:58
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Jetackuu said: »
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What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with a sorcerer.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-09-08 12:27:58
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Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with an economist.

The key problem there being that not all economists agree with each other because they may prefer different metrics.
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By Jassik 2015-09-08 12:30:13
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with an economist.

The key problem there being that not all economists agree with each other because they may prefer different metrics.

Unless they are taking specifically about median incomes or purchasing power, they'd be wrong.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-09-08 12:32:39
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Oh look, Jassik's thinks he knows economics better than any actual economist who disagrees with him. Round of applause, everyone.
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-08 12:33:32
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with an economist.

The key problem there being that not all economists agree with each other because they may prefer different metrics.

Indeed, it is an issue.
 
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By Jassik 2015-09-08 13:22:52
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Oh look, Jassik's thinks he knows economics better than any actual economist who disagrees with him. Round of applause, everyone.

No, I read, it's different than thinking you know something. You know as well as anyone that you can grab any obscure metric to prove a point, but the key metrics are key metrics for a reason. Yes, median earners are in worse shape than ever, yes purchasing power is down, yes low interest rates are artificially boosting other metrics, etc. The point is, the key metrics show constant, strong growth if not moderate stability. The economy is in better shape than its been for a decade and the middle class is paying for it, exactly the way financial interests want it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-09-08 13:35:04
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So basically the economy is doing great, except for the people in it.
Exactly.

That's the whole concept of a kleptocratic plutocracy.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-09-08 13:38:01
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
What factors are you guys considering when determining how the economy is doing?
A multitude, maybe we should inquire with an economist.
The key problem there being that not all economists agree with each other because they may prefer different metrics.
Where is Kara when we really need her?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-09-08 13:40:35
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Bimbo county clerk released.

Judge orders jailed clerk released immediately
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GRAYSON, Ky. — After five days behind bars, county clerk Kim Davis was ordered released from jail Tuesday by the judge who locked her up for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

U.S. District Judge David Bunning lifted the contempt order against Davis, saying he was satisfied that her deputies are fulfilling their obligation to grant licenses to same-sex couples in her absence. But he warned Davis not to interfere with them.

The move came down just before Davis was to receive jailhouse visits from presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz. Dozens of her had supporters gathered on the jailhouse lawn for what they called a rally for religious freedom.

Davis was thrown in jail on Thursday, becoming a hero among religious conservatives for the boldest act of resistance by a public official yet to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that effectively legalized gay marriage across the nation.


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GRAYSON, Ky. — After five days behind bars, county clerk Kim Davis was ordered released from jail Tuesday by the judge who locked her up for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

U.S. District Judge David Bunning lifted the contempt order against Davis, saying he was satisfied that her deputies are fulfilling their obligation to grant licenses to same-sex couples in her absence. But he warned Davis not to interfere with them.

The move came down just before Davis was to receive jailhouse visits from presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz. Dozens of her had supporters gathered on the jailhouse lawn for what they called a rally for religious freedom.

Davis was thrown in jail on Thursday, becoming a hero among religious conservatives for the boldest act of resistance by a public official yet to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that effectively legalized gay marriage across the nation.

Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, right, talks with David Moore following her office's refusal to issue marriage licenses at the Rowan County Courthouse in Morehead, Ky., Tuesday, Sept. 1, 2015. Although her appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court was denied, Davis still refuses to issue marriage licenses. Timothy D. Easley/AP© Timothy D. Easley/AP Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, right, talks with David Moore following her office's refusal to issue marriage licenses at the Rowan County Courthouse in Morehead, Ky., Tuesday, Sept. 1… Outside the jail where Davis was held, word spread slowly through a crowd of supporters in the afternoon, and some said they couldn't believe the news.

In lifting the contempt order, Bunning asked for updates on the five deputy clerks' compliance every two weeks.

Davis, an apostolic Christian, says that gay marriage is a sin and that it would be against her conscience to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple.

Davis' jailing has offered some of the many GOP presidential candidates an opportunity to appeal to the party's evangelical Christian wing, which opposes same-sex marriage and casts Davis' imprisonment as an issue of religious freedom.

On Monday, Davis's lawyers took their case to a federal appeals court, asking that Davis be allowed to remove her name and title from marriage certificates issued in Rowan County so that she would not have to act against her conscience.

Davis stopped issuing all marriage licenses in June the day after the Supreme Court ruled that gay couples have the right under the U.S. Constitution to marry.

Two gay couples and two heterosexual couples sued her. Bunning ordered Davis to issue the licenses, and the Supreme Court upheld his ruling. But she still refused, and was held in contempt of court and sent to jail.

Her deputy clerks — except for her son, Nathan Davis — then began issuing licenses to gay couples with Davis behind bars.

Judge probably got tired of the media circus.
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By Ramyrez 2015-09-08 13:44:49
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There really needs to be written into law somewhere that if you're unwilling to perform vital functions of your office because of conflicting personal beliefs you can be removed from office.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-09-08 13:46:58
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Its called impeachment. They can't do it right now. The state legislature is out of session.
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By Jetackuu 2015-09-08 13:52:56
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There really needs to be written into law somewhere that if you're unwilling to perform vital functions of your office because of conflicting personal beliefs you can be removed from office.

I question why the legislature isn't in session for another 3 months...

Then again, I hold the same issue with Congress, I wish I had a few month break. (I realize that they "do work" during the downtime, but come on.)
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By Ramyrez 2015-09-08 14:04:55
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Its called impeachment. They can't do it right now. The state legislature is out of session.

Yes, except she was elected specifically to do a thing she's refusing to do.

If I sit at work and refuse to do my job, they'll throw me out on the spot.

I continue to enjoy how double standards apply left and right for elected officials and those with mountains of money.

Meanwhile if one of her clerks were to be the one refusing this, and she was okay with it, the clerk would likely be dismissed immediately.

Impeachment works when things are in question.

There's no question here. There's a legal service signed off on by the highest court in the land that she's refusing to perform.

Suck it up and do it or leave office.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2015-09-08 15:13:48
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And if you think a full day of service industry work isn't legitimate, you're so irreparably jaded that nothing further said here matters.
Blame the workers for accepting minimum wage then?

If nobody is willing to work at Walmart for 7.25 an hour, Walmart will have no choice but to offer 8.00 an hour. If nobody is willing to work at Walmart for 8.00 an hour, the price keeps increasing.
So what do you recommend people do while they are unemployed waiting for businesses to offer higher wages to them? Are you advocating more people going on welfare so they aren't starving to death in the streets? Going back to school isn't an option in that instance if you don't have any income to pay for it.

It seems to me that you have never been in a situation where you have no money. I'm not talking about being broke until next payday, but literally no money and none coming in any time soon. You will take whatever you can get at that point, and put up with a lot of ***from your boss just so you have some income coming in.
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-09-09 06:00:34
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Gunilla Schmidt from SD posted this on Facebook:

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"Denmark AND Germany are lowering the amount of money people seeking asylum get per day but NOT Sweden. Of course they want to come to Sweden. Can't someone stand on the Öresund bridge with a machine gun?"

The person after is asking for a source on that and to explain what they should do with the machine gun, she calls them stupid and then the other person asks why she doesn't do it herself


I'm amazed people like this aren't fired by now



Then we have this scummy Hungarian reporter (who I believe was fired for this)

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-09-09 06:09:02
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She is hungarian and yeah she was fired.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-09-09 06:10:10
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Not sure why I wrote Austrian lol
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By fonewear 2015-09-09 06:11:39
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What is this malarkey ?!
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-09-09 06:14:46
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Proof of a world outside the US
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By fonewear 2015-09-09 06:17:57
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Proof of a world outside the US

Yea it is true Sweden exists but barely !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-09-09 08:34:02
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Not exactly the best news source, but all the claims are linked to other more reputable outlets.

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Five men have been arrested as they attempted to cross the Bulgarian-Macedonian border with decapitation videos and Islamic State propaganda on their phones. The terrorist suspects had been posing as refugees.

Bulgarian authorities near the Gyueshevo border checkpoint detained the five men, aged between 20 and 24, late on Wednesday, Bulgarian broadcaster NOVA TV reported.

The men were stopped by a border guard, who they attempted to bribe with a “wad of dollars.” However, they were searched and Islamic State propaganda, specific Jihadists prayers and decapitation videos were found on their phones.

In a move that suggests how seriously authorities are taking the case, the Bulgarian State Agency for National Security (DANS) has now taken control of the investigation under the supervision of the regional prosecutor’s office in Kyustendil.

The men chose to cross in a wooded area, local media have reported, and took a car from an accomplice who had crossed legally from Macedonia with the vehicle.

Bulgaria has recently completed a 15-foot high razor wire clad fence along 50 miles of its south-eastern border with Turkey to control the mass movement of migrants from the Middle East and Asia into Europe via the so-called Balkans route.

However, the Gyueshevo border checkpoint where the men crossed sits on Bulgaria’s western border with Macedonia. It is likely the men chose to enter there to avoid the new strict border controls on the other side of the country.

Following the recently foiled terror attack on an Amsterdam–Paris train, where the heavily armed terrorist was able to travel freely, European governments have been considering amending the Schengen border code, which eliminated systematic border controls across most of Europe.

In February, the Turkish intelligence service warned police in an internal memo that up to 3,000 trained jihadists are seeking to cross into Turkey from Syria and Iraq, who could then travel through Bulgaria and Hungry into western Europe. And in May, a Libyan government adviser warned Islamic State operatives were being “smuggled to Europe in migrant boats.”

At the time of the comments, UKIP leader Nigel Farage warned: “When ISIS say they want to flood our continent with half a million Islamic extremists they mean it, and there is nothing in this document [Common European Asylum Policy] that will stop them.

“I fear we face a direct threat to our civilisation if we allow large numbers of people from that war torn region into Europe.”
Islamic State Terrorists Caught Crossing Into Europe Posing As Refugees

Gotta feel bad for places like Germany and Sweden who have a far too generous policy that attracts all these migrants/refugees/illegals.
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By fonewear 2015-09-09 08:46:27
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I heard ex FFXI players migrate to Sweden as well !
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By fonewear 2015-09-09 08:52:57
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ISIS still on tour I heard they are coming to Cleveland in the fall !
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2015-09-09 08:54:13
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So Caitlyn Jenner came on Ellen this week. This confuses me a bit, actually it doesn't, she's a hypocrite. She herself is a transgender lesbian. She expects people to understand her process, BUT she has a problem understanding why same-sex marriage should be a constitutional right etc...

Ellen Isn’t Impressed By Caitlyn’s Stance On Marriage Equality

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By fonewear 2015-09-09 08:57:09
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Transgender lesbian hmm I don't have enough credits in gender studies to comprehend this !
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