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By Siren.Mosin 2015-08-31 14:26:12
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
I'd go straight for her! I really would. A 3way with her and Condi Rice is my GOP fantasy!!

icky, but good to have you back.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-08-31 14:30:23
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Ramyrez said: »
The fact that *** is a 10-time bestseller tells you everything you need to know about Americans. And if it didn't, Twilight and Twilight's bondage porn spinoff do.
Damn dude, what hole did you crawl out of today? Ever actually read anything she's written?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-31 14:35:44
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2015-08-31 14:39:57
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
The fact that *** is a 10-time bestseller tells you everything you need to know about Americans. And if it didn't, Twilight and Twilight's bondage porn spinoff do.
Damn dude, what hole did you crawl out of today? Ever actually read anything she's written?

Yes some of her stuff is typical FOX news garbage. This book is actually good. She paid a private firm to estimate undocumented immigrants who "obviously" don't fill out census reports. She takes quite a few jabs at corporate America. She even states in the book that corporate America is bringing over the under-skilled labor and hurting the economy.

She also does her fair share of going after immigrants saying Latin immigrants pre-70's were more intelligent and contributed more to the economy.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-08-31 15:00:46
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
She also does her fair share of going after immigrants saying Latin immigrants pre-70's were more intelligent and contributed more to the economy.

What, being the hired help at every major restaurant and organization not enough?
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-08-31 15:12:34
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
She also does her fair share of going after immigrants saying Latin immigrants pre-70's were more intelligent and contributed more to the economy.

What, being the hired help at every major restaurant and organization not enough?

But they took our jobs!

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-08-31 15:12:55
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Hey didn't Trump suggest we invade countries and legit steal oil to undermine them? Like actually capture oilfields and ship that stuff home to America.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-31 15:13:29
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Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.
 
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-08-31 15:17:28
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

Hey now, there's a line a mile long of real Americans chomping at the bit to go pick crops all day. I've seen it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-31 15:19:24
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Similar to the whole Mexico thing.

Yeah, that whole making Mexico pay for a wall and controlling China through large tariffs would require repeals of various fair trade acts and more than likely would result in some international court cases. It's just not going to happen as simply as that.

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Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

Hey now, there's a line a mile long of real Americans chomping at the bit to go pick crops all day. I've seen it.

Yeah, I've never seen real Americans chomping at the bit in a line for anything besides iPhones.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-31 15:20:07
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

If only those were the only ones people were concerned about.

More Illegal Immigrants Snagging White-Collar Jobs
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-31 15:25:50
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Between the Dream Act and a growing number of young immigrants coming of age, of course it's shifting toward those jobs, specifically technology jobs. It's even more difficult for people to immigrate here legally to fill niche jobs even when they have otherwise unavailable skillsets compared with their American counterparts. You'll notice, the places where people violate our immigration policies are where the legal alternative is prohibitively restricted or expensive.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-08-31 15:27:17
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

If only those were the only ones people were concerned about.

More Illegal Immigrants Snagging White-Collar Jobs

Separate rules for illegals vs legals in the job market,how anyone can say american's don't want those jobs is beyond me.

Americans can't have those jobs by the very conditions set forth by the illegal market.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-08-31 15:30:34
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Jesus 2016: a candidate you could really hang with.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-31 15:31:45
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Jesus 2016: a candidate you could really hang with.

Will he end his inaugural address with "drivers, start your engines!"
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By Bloodrose 2015-08-31 16:35:51
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Bahamut.Omael said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

Hey now, there's a line a mile long of real Americans chomping at the bit to go pick crops all day. I've seen it.
Of course you've seen it. You were standing at the back of the line waiting your turn to go pick crops and harvest Agave for making tequila.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-08-31 16:47:39
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Bloodrose said: »
Bahamut.Omael said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

Hey now, there's a line a mile long of real Americans chomping at the bit to go pick crops all day. I've seen it.
Of course you've seen it. You were standing at the back of the line waiting your turn to go pick crops and harvest Agave for making tequila.

I was driving home from Dallas. You've got to leave early, before the gangs wake up. Otherwise, you're there forever.
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By Bloodrose 2015-08-31 16:57:03
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Bahamut.Omael said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Bahamut.Omael said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Those darn illegals taking all those jobs no American wants.

Hey now, there's a line a mile long of real Americans chomping at the bit to go pick crops all day. I've seen it.
Of course you've seen it. You were standing at the back of the line waiting your turn to go pick crops and harvest Agave for making tequila.

I was driving home from Dallas. You've got to leave early, before the gangs wake up. Otherwise, you're there forever.
Shut up and make me some tequila!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-08-31 17:09:58
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Former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell to Remain Free During Supreme Court Appeal
Justices say Republican can stay out of prison while they consider hearing his case

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The Supreme Court Monday granted former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell’s plea to avoid prison while he pursues a last-ditch appeal of his convictions on federal corruption charges.

Mr. McDonnell was sentenced to two years’ imprisonment following his January conviction on what federal prosecutors characterized as a “quid pro quo bribery scheme” with a Virginia businessman seeking to promote a dietary supplement product.

In an unsigned order, the justices said Mr. McDonnell need not report to prison while he prepares his Supreme Court appeal, which the justices will then consider whether to hear.

If the court ultimately declines to hear the case, Mr. McDonnell will have to report to prison soon thereafter. If it accepts the case, he will remain free at least until a decision is reached, likely by June 2016.

“We are deeply gratified that the justices have recognized that this case raises substantial and important legal questions, and that Gov. McDonnell should not be imprisoned until the Supreme Court has a full opportunity to consider those questions,” said Noel Francisco, an attorney for Mr. McDonnell.

The Justice Department had no comment on the Supreme Court’s order.

The Supreme Court has taken a particular interest in recent years in the definition of corruption in political and white-collar criminal cases.

A federal jury in Richmond, Va., found that Mr. McDonnell, a Republican elected in 2009, and his wife, Maureen, accepted more than $177,000 in money and luxury goods from Jonnie Williams, founder of Star Scientific Inc., to use the governor’s office to promote the Anatabloc product.

Mr. McDonnell, once considered a promising national figure, has consistently maintained he did nothing wrong in accepting gifts from Mr. Williams, asserting that he neither promised nor exercised official powers in exchange. He repeatedly has argued that prosecutors overreached, effectively criminalizing the way powerful people typically interact.

“Close relationships between business leaders, lobbyists, and public officials are commonplace,” Mr. McDonnell said in a Thursday court filing with the high court, arguing politicians routinely reward their donors and friends with access to themselves and other officials.

Allowing prosecutors to file criminal charges when a gift or donation can be connected to any action by a politician would “radically reshape politics in this nation,” he said.
(this sounds like a good idea actually. - C)

In addition to arguing that his actions didn’t constitute a crime, Mr. McDonnell contends that the trial judge didn’t take adequate steps to ensure that jurors weren’t prejudiced by pretrial publicity regarding the case.

To date, those arguments have gone nowhere.

In July, a three-judge panel of the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond unanimously affirmed his convictions. Earlier this month, the full 15-judge appeals court rejected his petition to rehear the case and denied his request to remain free while pursuing his appeal to the Supreme Court.

Last week, Mr. McDonnell asked the Supreme Court to delay his imprisonment while the Supreme Court weighs whether to hear the case.

Mr. McDonnell argued that should he ultimately prevail, he would already have served much of his sentence before the decision came from the high court.

The Justice Department in response said that when Mr. McDonnell took office in January 2010, “he and his family were in considerable financial distress,” owing $75,000 in credit-card debt and losing $40,000 a year “on a pair of heavily mortgaged rental properties.”

The government recited the many things Mr. Williams lavished upon the McDonnells, including a $20,000 New York shopping spree for the first lady, a $6,000 Rolex watch for the governor, $25,000 to pay for their daughters’ weddings and another $130,000 in gifts or loans.

In exchange, the government said, Mr. Williams wanted Virginia state universities to conduct research and testing that could help Anatabloc, derived from a compound found in tobacco, qualify as a pharmaceutical product with the Food and Drug Administration.

Mr. McDonnell hosted a product launch for Anatabloc at the governor’s mansion, arranged meetings with state and university officials to discuss the product and passed along proposals regarding research into the supplement, which he told at least one official he was using himself, the government said.

Mr. McDonnell, who couldn’t run for re-election because Virginia prohibits governors from serving successive terms, was indicted shortly after leaving office in January 2014.

If the Supreme Court declines to hear the case, or ultimately rules against him, Mr. McDonnell likely will be assigned to the Federal Correctional Institution at Petersburg, Va., south of Richmond. Both the trial judge and Mr. McDonnell’s attorneys recommended in January that he be assigned to the prison camp nearest his home, although the Federal Bureau of Prisons will have the final word.

Former Virginia First Lady Maureen McDonnell was tried alongside her husband and sentenced to a year and a day in prison. She has filed a separate appeal that is scheduled for argument at the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in October.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-08-31 17:42:36
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Hopefully they decline to hear the case.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-08-31 20:06:23
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Hopefully they decline to hear the case.
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In July, a three-judge panel of the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond unanimously affirmed his convictions. Earlier this month, the full 15-judge appeals court rejected his petition to rehear the case and denied his request to remain free while pursuing his appeal to the Supreme Court.
I cannot easily find the political makeup of this court but I believe it is majority Republican appointed. But he lost against the full court.

This makes me believe that the Supremes will not hear the case or it will be a 5 - 4 go to jail.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-08-31 21:30:25
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Supreme Court says Kentucky clerk can't deny same-sex marriage licenses

Another case of check your personal feelings at the door and do the job you are being paid to do.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-31 21:32:38
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Supreme Court says Kentucky clerk can't deny same-sex marriage licenses

Another case of check your personal feelings at the door and do the job you are being paid to do.

Wasn't that the clerk's office that was being sued by a straight couple because they refused to issue ANY licenses for religious reasons? I'm pretty happy the court didn't side with the clerk and set a really dangerous precedent.
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By Bloodrose 2015-08-31 21:34:22
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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Supreme Court says Kentucky clerk can't deny same-sex marriage licenses

Another case of check your personal feelings at the door and do the job you are being paid to do.

Wasn't that the clerk's office that was being sued by a straight couple because they refused to issue ANY licenses for religious reasons? I'm pretty happy the court didn't side with the clerk and set a really dangerous precedent.
Same office being sued by both same sex and opposite sex couples because Kim Davis' felt it was against her religious beliefs to issue licenses to gay and lesbian couples.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-09-01 00:27:36
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Josiahkf said: »
This is why the stuff like what Trump said is so detrimental to a society.

http://imgur.com/gallery/QFIhx

People being absolute jerks to people they've never met, jumping to conclusions over stupid little things, etc. is not the sole domain of Trump message. That's common ground in politics.
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