Random Politics & Religion #00

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And wtf kinda bots make things trend on the Internet? Every time that dipshit on HBO, well the other dipshit on HBO with the glasses John Oliver, opens his mouth it is immediately trending.

I'm talking of what is considered progressive and what is considered conservative.

They both change with time and the reason is in the meaning of the words themselves. Times change so what you want to conserve isn't the same as before(that's retrograde), because progress pushes forward, and progressive ideologies' intent is to push faster.

As for economy that depends on a lot more factors and has to be adapted with the current times and conditions of a country. But you can always have fun talking about who did what wrong before.

I must go now, my planet needs me.

I'm pretty sure that is what Jon Stewart is going to say tonight on the Daily Show !

I like how you take the statements of one person to be for a whole group of people.

Also like how you are in complete denial of reality.

The bold is just hilarious, I'd almost think you were using satire.


Not always, we're talking about mostly the same things still. It's sad that America hasn't evolved much past the cold war propaganda, I blame the baby-boomers (rightfully so).

Edit: I see your point Seha, but it is a bit different than what was being jabbed at.

Well, that's part of the problem with progressivism. Just because something is different doesn't mean it's "progress", it's just viewed as such because people don't know any better.

The word progress doesn't belong in progressive party...but since when have words have any meaning !

Leave it to America to be told what to think by a British guy...

No, not really. You have this idea of socialism in a vacuum where people who work have to pay for people who are too lazy to. The reality of socialism is public property benefits everyone, and we take for granted many of those things. For example: public roadways. You don't hear people without cars complaining that their taxes pay for the roads that other people use. Gas taxes are for the highway fund, but people who only use gas for their lawn mower or other non-DOT engines are still paying the road tax. Same goes with national parks. People collectively feel national road systems and public parks are worth more than the cost.

For the record, there is also a big difference between democratic socialism and the communism/socialism that some countries have tried. You can't compare Finland to Cuba as if they have the same form of government.

So who here is a certified socialist ? I've been since 1991.

People watching and sharing it is what makes it trend. That means a large enough portion of the Internet agrees with what he's saying that it eclipses cat pictures and celebrity gossip. You only have to compare his views on Youtube to realize that a LOT of people agree with what he is saying.


Eh, progressive doesn't mean progress in all it's forms, obviously. But, just because they get it wrong sometimes or even a lot of the time doesn't mean it's always wrong, or that we should abstain from change simply because it MAY be fruitless. That's a founding principle of capitalism as well.

No. It is bots. No doubt.

Right, must be a conspiracy if a ton of people disagree with your viewpoint...

I've watched his show before. He definitely isn't worth paying extra money to get HBO for...

You might as well watch the Daily Show. It is pretty much the same thing.

That's fair, as change is sometimes needed. But often you get that narrative that people who oppose progressive platforms are anti-progress when in reality they're just anti-stupidity.

I don't know if that's just a blanket reaction, but a lot of the anti-progress is really just anti-change. The ones that have legitimate reservations about change are often the minority and get grouped in by association. Truly, if there weren't people loudly opposing everything different, that stigma wouldn't exist. That is exactly why I distanced myself from some of my more conservative ideals, I was tired of having to answer for the Cliven's in the group.

Well to be a liberal all you have to do is agree with them. I mean it's really that simple. Original ideas need not apply !

Where is to be a Republican you have to hate women and be racist. Which requires a bit more effort.

Good ideals are good ideals even if idiots agree with them. If it were not so, there would be no such thing as a good ideal.

I don't hate women, nor am I a racist. I know this because I am friends with several racist women that I keep locked in my attic. That's how it works, right? Let me check my notes....

Agreement has nothing to do with what trends.

What is trending can easily be manipulated just to get it out there for people to see.

Give it time you spend enough time on jezebel.com you will learn to hate again !

I don't hate women I hate feminists. And hopefully not all women are feminists. If that is true well. I'll look forward to endless discussion of my male privilege. Instead of actually getting to know said women.

I blame modern feminism on that chick from Saved by the Bell.

Yea but she was really sexy in Showgirls ! Now that is a movie that needs a sequel. Showgirls 2 they aren't even wearing a smile !

dude have you even ever met one? you post on here twenty six hours a day...

kiss your mom goodbye and take a walk outside for a couple of hours.

Which is ironic given where her career went afterward.

Agreed, but an idiot agreeing for all the wrong reasons shouldn't beholden me to every other stupid idea they have and voice. Just as the corrupted and twisted ideas many associate with "socialism" shouldn't taint the whole. People like Castro, who took an authoritarian idea and called it socialism are justification for painting the walls with anti-progressive rhetoric, but people like Reagan who did the same and called it conservatism aren't viewed as outsiders, but rather flocked around and worshiped.

These pathetic red vs blue binary political battles just plain have to stop. There is not a single issue that either side is completely correct on and not a single person who wholey agrees with the party mantra. Political parties are treated like sports teams, your dad was a Red Sox fan, so Fenway is your Mecca and you the Yankees and all their fans are pure evil. In reality, both sides have good ideas and bad ideas, and a smart person will look at issues, look at the ideas put forth, and choose the best solution irrespective of which party pushed it.

I do go outside part of my parole lets me get one hour of yard time a day.

Not a lot going on today for me. No work today and it isn't noon yet so I can't drink... !

The correct answer is no one likes the Yankees or the Red Sox !

Some of the worst fans in all of baseball.

It's more honest than "popular" music, which is determined by payola and a handful of media executives that manufacture popularity.

Some internet trends are manipulated, but they do it for revenue, not to promote a political agenda. John Oliver is saying stuff people agree with, the analytics on his videos tell the tale. Most people watch more than 90% of the video, that's a level of retention that no conventional media has. Not only that, viewers are very likely to watch all his videos, not just the one they saw linked on facebook.