Random Politics & Religion #00

well I was talking recent history since they both gave it a good go in ancient history.

The secret my friend was polytheism.

Both abandoned Zeus so he abandoned them.

Maybe schools where you live are, but none of the ones I went to or family members went to were. So, I'm not sure most is an accurate description. It could be, but I'd have to see more data.

Corporate sponsership played a big role at the public schools I attended. We had pizza hut starting in 6th grade available to purchase, along with coke and snack machines.

In 9th grade Surge came out and the entire student body received free Surge drinks for a week. Those poor teachers.

Chick-fil-a and krispy kreme also made apperances in high school.

Then there is the square pizza that I'm sure many remember.

I'd take some of that rectangular pizza right now.

From what I remember of the Greek gods, being left alone by Zeus was probably not the worst thing that could happen.

Dude was use his lightning bolts to power all kinds of sockets, if you know what I mean. Couldn't have been easy being a Greek dude. Probably why they, uh. Well.

Went Greek a lot.

I loved that stuff, man.

That's probably the worst part of me making this argument, because I actually really liked my schools lunches in their greasy, salt-packed glory.

***. Now I want hamburg gravy, mashed potatoes, and corn.

Well, the problem our government has is that it sees a problem that doing nothing won't fix... and promptly makes it worse by acting on it. Maybe if they didn't pass through half-baked, horribly inefficient policies that Congressmen don't even bother to read (insert infamous Nancy Pelosi quote here), then perhaps "doing nothing" wouldn't seem like such a superior option.

Except that, to enact a superior policy (in terms of achieving the desired goals), you would really get up in arms, I bet, because of all the limitations of freedoms you would perceive (and, in some cases, be correct about even).

We had no corporate involvement. And for a couple of years we weren't even allowed to use the vending machines during the day, only before 8:00 and after 3:00. Not for the nutritional deficiency of Pepsi, but because the school didn't feel it was right to be doing corporate business on school hours.

...come to think of it, my school was pretty great in a lot of ways, if not perfect. It could explain my very negative view of the current mess that is education, and my disdain of private schooling.

Perhaps, but for once I'd like to be forced to eat crow because one of these freedom-limiting laws actually worked as intended. Instead I find myself watching train wreck after train wreck, but I'm not allowed to complain because doggonit they tried.

Sounds like you had a good school. But is that the norm throughout the US?

Brief search indicates vending machines and other competitive food sources to be the norm, but I haven't seen a study that looks at schools restricting those purchases.

Will edit in links, stupid safari refresh
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18595970
http://nepc.colorado.edu/files/CERU-0603-172-OWI.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20869493
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2879179/

We had pizza hut and taco bell along with chili cheese nachos and fries. Plenty of pop in the vending machines too.

idk you seem to be doing alright in the complaining department.

Well, I could take a cue from you guys and try to pass my complaints as a bill. That should fix the problem.

North Korea claims it has cure for MERS, Ebola and AIDS

Hmm, and after reading about this some more, it turns out that the U.S. isn't even that special in the childhood obesity department. There are four countries ahead of the U.S. and a bunch more that aren't very far behind.

According to the OECD the US is first in adult obesity and number 5 in childhood obesity.

The top 4 countries for child obesity rank 3rd (New Zealand), 14th (Greece), 17th(Slovenia), and 34th (Italy) for adult obesity.

So, what do they do differently later in life in those countries (excluding New Zealand which seems on par with the US) or will they trend toward US levels in the next few years for their adult population?

/rips off shirt and twirls it overhead

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WE'RE NUMBER 1!!!! YEAH!

Trying to fix a problem is passing a complaint as a bill? ok... well at least I'd hope it'd make ya feel better little buddy.
So is this your new thing? Even if we have a problem its not all that bad if someone is doing it worse than us so we're good?

No idea. I probably would have loved the corporate stuff at the time, but I probably also would have left high school 25 lbs heavier.

"You see, we just kill the infected and burn their bodies. That way it's controlled!"

Image in head...


/scrubsheadclean

FARVA'S NUMBER ONE! FARVA'S NUMBER ONE!

Nope. It just surprised me is all, given the rhetoric. If phrasing my argument for me and arguing against it makes you feel all tingly inside, have at it.

You are certainly allowed to complain. Now, do your complaints have basis?

That's the tricky question. Doing some preliminary reading on the SchoolNutrition.Org pdf you linked, there is this:
The Q&A document linked is 62 pages long (which really isn't very long at all). It's also written well, and pretty damn straightforward.

Now, I'd argue that the original item is not structured well for those who need to implement the rule. At all.
The new regulations start on page 16; wait, no, page 22; wait, no, it is summarized on page 24; oh wait, the actual requirements to the program start on page 54 (for lunch) and 67 (for breakfast). The document is 81 pages long. 54 pages of it are essentially irrelevant to actually performing the task as hand, and involve the history of how the rule evolved to the point at which it is now. Discard.

Now that you have where the requirements begin, the guidelines themselves are pretty friggin straightforward.

The 62 page Q&A document? It mainly takes excerpts from the rule, so that people who don't read the document can have information on it.
Example:


No, the rules are not overly complex. They are actually pretty straightforward and clear.

It's so people who went, "TL;DR!" Can turn around again and go "TL;DR;Too Hard!"

How is asking you questions any of the nonsense you just claimed it was?

They were stupid questions that were inferred from basically nothing. If you prefer, you can just assume the answer to them is "no".

So you just think they're stupid so you made up some *** about me making an argument for you and then arguing against it myself. Good on you buddy lol..

I didn't infer it from basically nothing. I was curious because instead of actually discussing the issue your last few posts have been about other nations and how they're either worse than us, right around us or how they do things as shitty as us. I was asking to find out if you actually are using that as some kind of excuse or you're just rambling on about other places in the world.