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By fonewear 2015-06-08 19:47:01
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Well actually I was going to win an Olympic medal get on reality TV show then get a sex change but that seems likes lot of work...
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By Enuyasha 2015-06-08 19:51:46
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Well actually I was going to win an Olympic medal get on reality TV show then get a sex change but that seems likes lot of work...
Im sure you dont have the right name for that :<

You need your daughter to get pregnant again by an *** attention *** too...thats going to take forever.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-08 19:54:09
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I'm not so sure that the establishment needs to worry about Bernie in particular, but seeing their champion barely eeking out victories this early in the game.

That's exactly what they said in 2008 with Obama. It's also what they said when Sanders ran for Mayor and for the Senate. Sanders' efficacy in the primary is going to come down to the debates, and his chances will come down to polling and turnout from young people.
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By fonewear 2015-06-08 19:59:20
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I'm not so sure that the establishment needs to worry about Bernie in particular, but seeing their champion barely eeking out victories this early in the game.

That's exactly what they said in 2008 with Obama. It's also what they said when Sanders ran for Mayor and for the Senate. Sanders' efficacy in the primary is going to come down to the debates, and his chances will come down to polling and turnout from young people.

And we all know young people don't vote. They just say they are going to vote on Facebook or Twitter !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-08 19:59:52
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If Sanders can get through a whole debate without yelling at kids to get off his lawn, he could be in good shape.

In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.
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By fonewear 2015-06-08 20:01:42
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If Sanders can get through a whole debate without yelling at kids to get off his lawn, he could be in good shape.

In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.

I look forward to dismissing Hillary cause she isn't attractive enough to be President.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-08 20:02:19
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fonewear said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If Sanders can get through a whole debate without yelling at kids to get off his lawn, he could be in good shape.

In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.

I look forward to dismissing Hillary cause she isn't attractive enough to be President.

Mmm, that Bernie Sanders is a fox though. Gee-rowl.
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By fonewear 2015-06-08 20:05:18
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
fonewear said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If Sanders can get through a whole debate without yelling at kids to get off his lawn, he could be in good shape.

In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.

I look forward to dismissing Hillary cause she isn't attractive enough to be President.

Mmm, that Bernie Sanders is a fox though. Gee-rowl.

He is pretty sexy for a 70 something year old man...

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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-08 20:07:17
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If Sanders can get through a whole debate without yelling at kids to get off his lawn, he could be in good shape.

In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.

He's got a lot to say and he doesn't pull any punches. He's going to be either the hope of the democratic party or the death of it. It will be nice to have a card carrying liberal out there to counterbalance the race to the middle for once. It will force other democrats and Republicans to defend their ideas, and that's good for everyone.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-08 20:20:54
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It's safe to say that I disagree with the man on a vast majority of the issues, but wow would I take him over Hillary any day. If it's a fight between a true blue democratic socialist with a fairly clean record vs. a more to the right but clearly corrupt candidate that represents a lot of what is wrong with American politics... well, the choice is obvious.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-06-08 20:25:07
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
In all seriousness, I can't wait for the debates. They should be... interesting.
I really fear they won't be.

That said, I'm rooting for a Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket. I know it won't happen (specifically the latter part, she's been so frustratingly adamant about that), but it'd be nice to have a competent person in the Oval Office and either one of them would do. Because, let's be fair, Obama was incredibly green, Bush, Jr., was a sockpuppet, Clinton was experienced in all the wrong ways, and Reagan was genuinely demented for about half his incumbency. Bush, Sr., wasn't so bad on balance, even if he had the charisma of a dead flounder.

What we'll get stuck with is the usual Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich, trying to figure out which one is going to feel worse to endure for 4 years. Because our political system is stupid.

Related note, is there a quirky acronym for Democrats-in-name-only? Yes, obviously we could say DINO, but I've never actually seen it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-08 20:34:14
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Sadly, that's just democrat, which is why I differentiate between democrat and liberal.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-06-08 20:46:41
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Sarah Palin’s Bitter Cry for Attention
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Sarah Palin, the Duggars and a host of other conservative folk heros decry the mainstream media while ceaselessly courting it. It’s a good schtick, until it goes badly wrong.
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By now you may have read Sarah Palin’s florid attack on Lena Dunham. She and her daughter Bristol both attempted the same pathetic sleight-of-hand to distract from the ongoing grotesquerie of the Duggar family values. Go take a look, if you have time and can get past the all-caps intro. The caps-lock key is the Palin family’s rhetorical open-carry, deployed in the mistaken belief that it makes the bearer seem more formidable, when really it underscores the weakness of the case.

Sarah’s tirade in particular radiates schoolyard smugness, the smirk of a lunchroom bully who thinks she’s scored a sick burn on the class nerd—she doesn’t just think she’s made a devastating point, she’s already figuratively turning around to accept high-fives from her pals.

Are you not familiar with Dunham’s perversions? She once looked at her sister’s vagina. She was 7. As sexually frustrated teenager, she masturbated while her sister slept in the same bed. I’m sure there are people who have never masturbated in a less-than-private place, but my casual sampling suggests this is within the bounds of normal. All of it is.

But, for the Palins, there’s a smoking gun. Dunham says she once bribed her younger sister to kiss her on the mouth. She was desperate for affirmation; she worried about her place in the family. In her book, she jokes that her insecurity and desire for attention drove her to try “anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl.” It’s a joke because her motives weren’t the same as a sexual predator’s—even if her behavior, superficially, was.

Whereas Josh Duggar, twice that age, was a sexual predator.

Equating Dunham’s and Duggar’s behavior is not the only category error the Palins made. Also in terms of comparing Dunham’s and Duggar’s places in the media galaxy, what sorts of celebrities they are, the Palins are comparing apples and some kind of fruit nobody’s ever heard of.

Lena Dunham is an author, filmmaker, actress, and, yes, political activist. While there’s no doubt that she’s benefitted from family connections and social capital not available to your average twenty-something, she’s famous because she’s good at what she does. She made Tiny Furniture and Girls before she campaigned for Obama, not the other way around. Josh Duggar’s family may not be rich, but he is famous solely because he belongs to the Duggar family. And the Duggars are essentially famous for the same reason the Kardashians are: their sex lives.

Conservatives take their celebrities where they can get them. Sure, there are actors and country music stars, snatched up quickly for pro-troop specials and benefits, but the Duggars are the rare example of a true conservative folk hero crossovers, individuals whose fame is not dependent on a celebrity-generating skill (acting, singing) but on a set of beliefs. They share that slim slice of Venn diagram (general popular recognition and genuine conservative activism) with the Duck Dynasty clan and a smattering of lesser lights: Joe the Plumber, the owners of Memories Pizza, Cliven Bundy, and Pam Geller. Military heroes are adopted quickly, and territorially. Ben Carson was raised up immediately after his one-sided “confrontation” with the president.

Indeed, there was that brief moment when it seemed like conservative America might adopt Caitlyn Jenner as an icon. If only liberals were as upset with Jenner’s stated party ID as Rush Limbaugh and the Twitteratti thought it might be. It has turned out that Jenner’s party affiliation is the least interesting thing about her. Really, that a wealthy white woman is Republican isn’t nearly as surprising as how many rural, middle-class people are.

Conservatives might argue—and they have a point—that liberals don’t need a separate celebrity culture. Liberal media darlings are, pretty much, media darlings. Their path to celebrity isn’t political because it doesn’t need to be political. Lena Dunham isn’t famous because she’s the victim of a right-wing pile-on, she’s the victim of right-wing pile-on because she’s famous.

The Left doesn’t have anything quite like the conservative folk hero, people who are neither politicians nor activists nor professional performers but simply famous for being liberals. Sandra Fluke, perhaps. Cindy Sheehan (remember her?) And when they do pop up, the liberal political ecosystem doesn’t have the same network of conferences, straw polls and candidate cattle-calls that prop up the Duggars and their brethren.

Even more than the conferences, however, conservative folk heroes find their credibility increases not via leadership but through victimhood. All criticism by mainstream voices becomes proof of worthiness—and the case of Josh Duggar exposes just how self-defeating the raising up these folk heroes via victimhood can be.

Not that the Palins would realize this. What does Sarah Palin’s own fame stand on now these days, anyway? A caps-lock key and a sense of grievance. It’s not much, but these days, it’s all any conservative celebrity needs. Ironically, it’s their grievance that makes them worthy of attention from the mainstream media as well. The Duggars’ and Palins’ off-the-map political and world views are what draw attention. Outsiders want to stare at the spectacle.

Maybe the cruelest trick that liberal elites ever pulled was luring so many camera-starved conservatives into the limelight—and out of the reality distortion field of their own devising.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-06-08 22:11:37
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Guarantee void in Tennessee.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-06-08 22:42:46
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Speaking of a bitter cry for attention....
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By Siren.Fattynoob 2015-06-08 23:12:19
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Enuyasha said: »
Hillary has too much Benghazi on her from the plebian laymen side of the uninformed voter pool so maybe Bernie will get it cause he actually does seem to want what a lot of voters seem to want.

Uninformed voter's would think she did everything perfectly in that situation. However the fact that it was a failure in leadership absolutely tells us how well she would do as POTUS. Did you even watch the hearings? I suppose not. You probably believe they were complete investigations also, even though emails had not been received until February 2015. Had Gowdy not been so thorough America still wouldn't even know about Clintons secret spy network and private communication paid for by U.S. Tax payers.

Benghazi is the least of corrupt Clinton's concerns. I would think being bribed by foreign governments much more dangerous to her campaign. There is a reason she doesn't field reporters questions.

At this point she is merely a distraction from whoever the real democratic candidate will be. Much like Obama in 2008. I can't believe anyone other than crazed feminists or low-information voters would support her.

There isn't a viable candidate out there yet for either party. Just more pro-establishment, pro-wall street, sell out America candidates.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-08 23:14:34
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To sum up the last few pages I missed: Neo-Liberal Commie-Feminazi Freedom Fighters.
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By Jetackuu 2015-06-08 23:21:46
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Siren.Fattynoob said: »
There isn't a viable candidate out there yet for either party. Just more pro-establishment, pro-wall street, sell out America candidates.
I thought Mittens wasn't going to try again?
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By Siren.Fattynoob 2015-06-09 00:03:36
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Speaking of feminism, I wonder why they haven't protested about not having to register for the selective service at 18. Equality and all.
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By fonewear 2015-06-09 06:46:18
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Speaking of feminism, I wonder why they haven't protested about not having to register for the selective service at 18. Equality and all.

Cause fighting for your freedoms that's a man's job ! When the going gets tough women get a man to do it !
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-09 07:41:38
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Siren.Fattynoob said: »
There isn't a viable candidate out there yet for either party. Just more pro-establishment, pro-wall street, sell out America candidates.

Edit: nevermind. There was backread I had missed.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-09 08:44:21
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Speaking of feminism, I wonder why they haven't protested about not having to register for the selective service at 18. Equality and all.
Male privilege is oppressive except when it's not.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-09 08:47:34
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fonewear said: »
Siren.Fattynoob said: »
Speaking of feminism, I wonder why they haven't protested about not having to register for the selective service at 18. Equality and all.

Cause fighting for your freedoms that's a man's job ! When the going gets tough women get a man to do it !

*** please. I know female marines that could kick your *** while you're busy daydreaming about them.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-09 09:01:11
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
conservative heroes

we only have one hero in this century, the 12th dan evil supreme grand master of putting commies and islamofascists in their place and making it look easy. ronald *** opens up a warehouse full of intercontinental ballistic whoop *** reagan.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-09 09:10:00
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So what to do if your theory doesn’t fit the data? Why, change the data, of course!

Global warming, the theory that predicts nothing and explains everything.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-09 09:12:02
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I love the way people like Nausi rally so hard against global warming, when changing everything that supposedly causes global warming is still entirely beneficial to the country even if global warming itself weren't a thing (even though it is).
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-09 09:14:57
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Ramyrez said: »
I love the way people like Nausi rally so hard against global warming, when changing everything that supposedly causes global warming is still entirely beneficial to the country even if global warming itself weren't a thing (even though it is).
I hear carbon credits are good for city compost systems too!

So you're not going to justify the lunacy, that's good. But instead you've just become a blind zealot to the church, that's bad.

Seriously, what do you have against cheap and widely available CO2 producing energy?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-06-09 09:18:19
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Speaking of feminism, I wonder why they haven't protested about not having to register for the selective service at 18. Equality and all.
I knew a woman who, as a protest, registered for the draft when she turned 18, and yes, we still had one then.

Her name was Robin so it was easy. They never did call her in for a pre induction physical.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-06-09 09:20:52
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Since you bring back the topic...
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*deep breaths* okay, brace yourselves cause it's a global warming article incoming...
Alright, let's do this!

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One of the biggest mysteries of modern climate science may never have really existed, updated climate analyses suggest.

Following decades of warming and a hot 1998, Earth’s average surface temperature seemingly plateaued. This warming hiatus, as it came to be known, had climate researchers scrambling for an explanation. Now measurements and analysis by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration suggest that the apparent hiatus was not an actual climate trend. Instead, it was an artifact of incomplete and biased data.

After correcting for biases in ocean temperature measurements and filling gaps in land temperature data, the researchers report online June 4 in Science that recent global warming is more than twice as fast as once thought.

ze paper
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-09 09:30:15
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Right so when all the predictions based on past data don't fit your narrative, what do you do? Change your narrative? No, rewrite history!

Let's be real here, if we're going to throw out historic temperature data by declaring it biased in favor of a false hiatus, why can't it be biased in favor of false warming as well? Skeptics have long questioned the historical data, it's biases, and the way it has been previously "adjusted" to account for historical warming. Or is the science yet again now settled?

You have my sympathies Seha, you've bought this BS hook line and sinker. How many time must you see the emperor with no clothes before you acknowledge he's naked?
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