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Random Politics & Religion #00
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-05 13:02:39
Offhand, common core is the latest one. I'm also not sure how common core leads to this. It sets certain goals. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with making sure everyone gets their feels tended to or anything like that.
also, the program has been adopted by both democratic and republican states and has met feirce criticism in recent years over its effectiveness.
If anything, Common-Core seems to do the opposite. It's efficacy is hard to quantify, though, as it's only employed as a structure, not a curriculum. So, every district that deploys it is a different ball of wax.
Oh come on...nobody knows what common core even is...
Mostly it's just an architecture to standardize education methodology, and most of the hate comes from misunderstanding it's purpose and focusing on individual curriculums or the admittedly unconventional math. Our public education system needs a massive overall, because our rankings are pathetic for a nation with the kind of wealth and ambition of America.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-06-05 13:02:51
I have a degree of self awareness At what university did you attain that?
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By Seha 2015-06-05 13:03:48
Our public education system needs a massive overall A lot of places in the world need this. I don't know why it's so hard to push for a change. Over here it's been an ongoing battle for at least 10 years now.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:05:12
I have a degree of self awareness At what university did you attain that?
It was actually post-grad work, mostly correspondence classes.
By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:06:25
, and most of the hate comes from misunderstanding it's purpose and focusing on individual curriculums or the admittedly unconventional math.
My hate of it comes from the fact that the people most frequently misunderstanding it are the ones dictating the curriculums.
And yeah, it's math is...problematic.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-05 13:07:09
Our public education system needs a massive overall A lot of places in the world need this. I don't know why it's so hard to push for a change. Over here it's been an ongoing battle for at least 10 years now.
There's a lot of reasons for this; foremost is probably that people can't agree on what the reforms should actually be. Then you get into things like tax rates, and teacher unions, and class sizes, and dozens of other details that take what's already a snail of a process (gaining consensus) and gumming up the works even further.
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-05 13:08:04
Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
From your posts I find that hard to believe, flip flopping opinions is not a sign of self awareness.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-06-05 13:08:19
Our public education system needs a massive overall A lot of places in the world need this. I don't know why it's so hard to push for a change. Over here it's been an ongoing battle for at least 10 years now.
Most places don't let opaque private interests dictate public policy. When Australia banned guns, it was epically unpopular, especially among the arms industry.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:10:29
Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
From your posts I find that hard to believe, flip flopping opinions is not a sign of self awareness. From your posts you just seem to come in and blame liberalism for everything and ***on people sooo... Why would you even have a problem with that?
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:12:08
Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
From your posts I find that hard to believe, flip flopping opinions is not a sign of self awareness. 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-05 13:12:38
no... /folds arms
we're the evil republican establishment that progressive liberal incrementalism is fighting against. the blizzard of frivolous lawsuits are just one way to stick it to the man, who is me.
change is bad mmmkay just leave everything alone right where you found it...in fact don't touch anything... so you don't break it..
also get off my lawn you hippies
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:15:01
also get off my lawn you hippies I'm no god damn hippy! leave that to the hoppies... if I can't use the lawn where will i put my lawn chair huh? I can only stay in aerial recon mode for so long...
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-05 13:15:20
Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
From your posts I find that hard to believe, flip flopping opinions is not a sign of self awareness. From your posts you just seem to come in and blame liberalism for everything and ***on people sooo... Why would you even have a problem with that?
I've done no such thing. I have merely provided my opinions and defended them from being ***on by other posters.
I dunno why you think flip flopping and that have anything in common unless you are just trying to ***on me?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-05 13:17:27
Ugh, let's not even get into Common Core. It sucks and everyone knows it sucks. It's a big 'ol government Band-Aid that wasn't even applied in the right spot.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:21:20
Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
From your posts I find that hard to believe, flip flopping opinions is not a sign of self awareness. From your posts you just seem to come in and blame liberalism for everything and ***on people sooo... Why would you even have a problem with that?
I've done no such thing. I have merely provided my opinions and defended them from being ***on by other posters.
I dunno why you think flip flopping and that have anything in common unless you are just trying to ***on me? Your opinion that liberalism is the core problem at everything that is wrong with everything? I mean if you call defending that opinion by dumping on someone else and screaming liberalism louder then I guess so... but you literally just come in and ***on other posters and cry liberalism and [+] stuff that says feels.
You've been given the opportunity to cite what liberal policies you hold responsible for stuff like this and you instead chose to keep your bash on remo policy up... don't get me wrong it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely but lets be honest that's not really defending your opinion.
flip flopping on what exactly. it helps to actually explain what you think people are flip flopping on.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-05 13:24:56
it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-05 13:26:36
Ugh, let's not even get into Common Core. It sucks and everyone knows it sucks. It's a big 'ol government Band-Aid that wasn't even applied in the right spot.
but I think the whole common core debate illustrates the main problem with changing anything.... people are idiots.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:27:41
it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
Back off old man, or I will sick a flock of penguins on your genitals.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-05 13:28:22
it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
Count me in!
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-05 13:29:58
Friendly(?) neighborhood mod here to remind you:
If you use the report function, I look at the whole context. You should probably refrain from chucking barbs at people right before you report that a post is harassing you, because that's going to make me dismiss your complaint. Reap what you sow, etc.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:31:29
 it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
Count me in!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-05 13:33:29
who did what now with the huh?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:38:09
Friendly(?) neighborhood mod here to remind you:
If you use the report function, I look at the whole context. You should probably refrain from chucking barbs at people right before you report that a post is harassing you, because that's going to make me dismiss your complaint. Reap what you sow, etc. I feel some kind of meme coming on...
I don't always use the report button but I always do it after I insult the person I'm going to report.
ehhh... doesn't really roll off the tongue.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-05 13:38:14
who did what now with the huh?
I reported your mustache. Sorry.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:39:26
it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
Back off old man, or I will sick a flock of penguins on your genitals. Unlikely that you could control a flock of penguins... you can barely control yourself...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-05 13:41:37
Ugh, let's not even get into Common Core. It sucks and everyone knows it sucks. It's a big 'ol government Band-Aid that wasn't even applied in the right spot.
but I think the whole common core debate illustrates the main problem with changing anything.... people are idiots.
It's a perfect example of how centralized authority and one size fits all planning are massive failures. education in california should be planned by people in california and people in DC should have nothing to do with it, let alone be able to force feed everyone in the country what they think is best.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-06-05 13:41:43
who did what now with the huh?
I reported your mustache. Sorry.
meh... I had it coming...
/sips coffee
By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:42:46
ehhh... doesn't really roll off the tongue. 
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-05 13:43:48
ehhh... doesn't really roll off the tongue. No.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-05 13:43:57
it's a lot of fun to bash on remo mcfeely. /gets a baseball bat
Back off old man, or I will sick a flock of penguins on your genitals. Unlikely that you could control a flock of penguins... you can barely control yourself...
...and Nik pretends he has a weather control machine yet he still toils away living in Ohio.
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