Random Politics & Religion #00

Yup, got it.

It didn't work because he didn't have a plausible idea, all he could muster was blaming Obama which has been pretty easy to debunk with actual facts. If you don't know, then say so, and don't just hurl empty insults at Obama.

Here is some enlightenment: We don't need to deal with ISIS in Iraq, they are completely outnumbered and outgunned. As soon as the Iraqis feel like taking their country back, ISIS is done in Iraq. They are finally mounting a counteroffensive and should be able to take back Mosul in the next month, as long as they don't run away again.
Syria is a bigger problem in the sense that Syria is such a worthless country that nobody on the planet feels like going in there. It probably would have been a better idea to go after Assad rather than Ghadifi, especially since Americans were only going to mildly support one of those. We barely supported Libya as it was, honestly I would say we didn't support the Libyan incursion but Obama went ahead anyway. The backlash from that convinced Obama Syria wasn't worth the trouble and it really wasn't at the time.

Nobody wanted to go after Assad then and its easy to say it was a mistake but who really wants to go after Assad now. Congress didn't support it then and they probably wouldn't support it now seeing as how they can't even pass the war authorization Obama requested. There are 3+ fronts in Syria right now, and that number needs to be reduced to two before ISIS can be dealt with. But there is no one that wants to pay for it. So let the conservatives *** and moan about Obama, like you said, it means nothing.

ftfy


I was talking about Hillary. Nice to know that you associate the word "imbecile" with Obama, though.

I think they both work tbh.

Judging Vic's latest tear-filled reply.

Thats it? Done? You guys should not come back to this particular topic then, because this is the second time you have completely whiffed on Iraq and ISIS. At least this time KN didn't post articles that debunked his own position.

Whiffing to the rest of the world: Missing.

Whiffing to Vic: Not agreeing with what his lordship King Obama has to say.

Good gravy Vic, can you kiss Obama's *** any more? I mean seriously.

You certainly love the ***he produces.

I'm sorry, was I supposed to reply to your tactic of "do nothing"? Sure, there's that chance that it may work. But if you want a decent reply you're going to need something greater than the laziest strategy you can muster.

You already admitted you don't know anything, so the threat of a "decent reply" is completely empty, because, by your own admission, you aren't capable of it. All you can do is fall in line with someone else.
As for KN, we are still waiting for you to point out a real mistake by Obama in Iraq. Your insults are nothing.

It might surprise you, but most of my conversation about politics takes place in person. Most of my posts on this forum aren't expressing a personal opinion, and when I do, I'm more often at odds with the leftist posters than the rightist crowd.

Oh please, as if you are any more qualified to form an opinion on the matter than I am. You fall in line with someone else's opinion (probably Obama's) too, you raving hypocrite.

Why is it that the things you say about yourself are things that nobody in here ever sees? When was the last time you were openly at odds with known leftist poster in here?

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better. Post your pictures, fling your insults, they are all empty. Its ok to not know anything, I tend to not engage in topics that I'm not familiar with, maybe you should try it? As in, never try to talk about Iraq and ISIS again.

Well, you make me laugh, Vic. I'll give you that. Twist my words any way you want to, it's not going to help your case. I implied that I didn't have the knowledge of what would be the best military strategy against ISIS, not that I didn't know what was going on over there. Maybe you should use your ISIS strategy in the forums and just not even try.

I'm never openly at odds with anyone who treats me with respect, and I couldn't care less about your attempts to paint me in with anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint as some kind of bleeding heart pinko. Does it really bother you that much that an informed person on the moderate right could be in favor of civil liberties that aren't exclusively Jesus and guns? Or does it just fracture your world when someone doesn't fit into a nice little sports themed "Us vs. Them" archetype?

Yeah, Obama isn't a good president, but guess what, he's not exactly a bad one, and he's so far from a radical liberal or socialist (or whatever it is you guys are pretending is a moderate viewpoint) that the rest of the world is literally laughing at one of our major political parties... In the rest of the western world, people with the opinions of the current Republican party are considered radical and dangerous.

You two have made me laugh all day Rav. I don't need any help with my case, this is way too easy for me. Despite all your "posts" on the topic, you haven't actually demonstrated you know whats going on over there. But hey, feel free to attempt to demonstrate your alleged knowledge. Feel free to accurately point out how Obama is responsible for the situation in Iraq, KN hasn't been able to do it. Point out what Obama should have done and how it could have been accomplished. I won't ask you for a strategy going forward because you have already said you don't know. So lets stick with what you think you know.

Honestly I don't have a problem with your political views per se. Sure I disagree with you a lot, but mostly I get annoyed with your incorrect blanket statements, odd definitions, and that your statements about yourself don't even remotely reflect the things that you say in these forums.

Odd definitions? Like, using the actual definitions of words instead of pop culture ones? Social ideologies are separate from political ideologies, and I refuse to let a vocal minority rewrite the purpose of government for their own ends on any end of the political spectrum. And, I love that it gets under your skin.

Of course it's easy for you. You picked your spot on the political spectrum and believe everything that's fed to you from it. Some of us fluctuate sides depending on the topic and have to actually think.

Obama is my good Obama is great I surrender my will as of this date !

I'm going to miss Obama cause we won't have a black President till Al Sharpton gets elected.

No one can be as radical of a liberal as me ! I'm for abortions after the third trimester !

It's not always the definitions themselves, even. It's the blanket statements that accompany them. You've made "No True Scotsman" into an art form.

On that note, Fone's arrived. Prepare yourselves for the half-time show.

Gather round children I'll tell you a story of abortions funded by your beloved government ! It's all the rage.

So nothing then.

Nothing perfectly describes the level of discourse of the last I don't' know three pages !

Reduce argument to red v blue; assert yourself as a "thinker".

lol

Argue from the blue 100% of the time; accuse someone else of reducing arguments to red v blue.

lol

Bonus: H-Card.

You just did it again. I mean, is this the depth of your intellect? That's too bad.

Plus, further bastardization of that word.

You really have to stop arguing with mirrors.

Yes I'd rather shoot down things that are untrue or just plain crazy, we've covered why before, but if you insist on why AGAIN then so be it.

It's boring, we'll make a few posts about it, +1 eachother, nod, chuckle and shake our heads about the state of things and then move on, as the beast is literally too big.

But keep pretending that we never mention it, or that we even like the guy, it helps feed your need for partisan garbage. (Then complain about partisan garbage, there's a word for that, hmm).

We do want to hold him accountable, but for the things he's actually guilty of. To keep attacking him with things he's not guilty of weakens the arguments of those he's not. But we can get into the crux of what he's guilty of and why nobody else brings it up: because they're very Republican things to do and you'd have to criticize them for doing it as well. I'm not biased, so I will not "be on my way" thank you.