Random Politics & Religion #00
Random Politics & Religion #00
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Just wondering... where are Nausi's sources to back up his original claim. Why have you not asked for those?
You know, there is this concept called "time" that you should read up on. It's very interesting. You can discover that "time" is measurable by units that can be broken up by the lengths of "time" that has passed. You can also discover that "time" can be used to signify situations where one's responsibilities can be measured by the events that took place during that "time"
"Time" is a wonderful thing to learn, and I strongly suggest that you actually learn about it. Tomorrow, you can learn how to use the toilet without your parents changing your diapers too!
So what's the solution to the crisis? Obama has utterly failed in his choice to play it from a support role harassing ISIS airstrikes and backing the Kurds/resistance rather than committing forces to ground invasion.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. To commit American boots to take back every square foot of IS controlled territory? Can we stomach the losses both financial and physical? To press the EU to go in with us on this land invasion scheme? To reinvade Iraq? To commit to ending Syria? For who? Assad? FSA? Random goons #1-10?
We got it. You don't like Obama's policy. Noted. So what's the talking point you're clutching? I'd love to hear it.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. To commit American boots to take back every square foot of IS controlled territory? Can we stomach the losses both financial and physical? To press the EU to go in with us on this land invasion scheme? To reinvade Iraq? To commit to ending Syria? For who? Assad? FSA? Random goons #1-10?
We got it. You don't like Obama's policy. Noted. So what's the talking point you're clutching? I'd love to hear it.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
*flips through actual history*, lol definitely yep.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis? Obama has utterly failed in his choice to play it from a support role harassing ISIS airstrikes and backing the Kurds/resistance rather than committing forces to ground invasion.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. To commit American boots to take back every square foot of IS controlled territory? Can we stomach the losses both financial and physical? To press the EU to go in with us on this land invasion scheme? To reinvade Iraq? To commit to ending Syria? For who? Assad? FSA? Random goons #1-10?
We got it. You don't like Obama's policy. Noted. So what's the talking point you're clutching? I'd love to hear it.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. To commit American boots to take back every square foot of IS controlled territory? Can we stomach the losses both financial and physical? To press the EU to go in with us on this land invasion scheme? To reinvade Iraq? To commit to ending Syria? For who? Assad? FSA? Random goons #1-10?
We got it. You don't like Obama's policy. Noted. So what's the talking point you're clutching? I'd love to hear it.
We do nothing: they ***.
We airstrike/provide intel/training, etc: they ***.
We land invade: they ***.
We nuke the hell out of them: they ***.
It's a lose lose lose lose.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Secondly, even going through varied sources, Nausi is still wrong. The current mess in the middle east, including ISIS, is a collaborative failing of the entire region, including recent history including both former President Bush, and current President Obama.
Then again, regardless of who stepped into office as president, it would have been the shitshow we see now.
So yes, Nausi is wrong.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Again, you've attacked Obama. I get it, you don't like the guy. Think he can't lead. Incompetent. Followed by a disclaimer that you'll be preemptively attacked for criticizing the POTUS.
What's the strategy to defeat ISIS Obama has failed to wrap his brain around?
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I ask this question because dudes committing scholarly activity to answering that bold up there have nothing but shitshow answers.
So I'm curious how everyone here thinks we'll mop up the ME and be home in time for Corn Flakes. Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda but we didn't.
The pieces are on the board. Show me your moves. #CaptainFalcon
So I'm curious how everyone here thinks we'll mop up the ME and be home in time for Corn Flakes. Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda but we didn't.
The pieces are on the board. Show me your moves. #CaptainFalcon
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Secondly, even going through varied sources, Nausi is still wrong. The current mess in the middle east, including ISIS, is a collaborative failing of the entire region, including recent history including both former President Bush, and current President Obama.
Then again, regardless of who stepped into office as president, it would have been the shitshow we see now.
So yes, Nausi is wrong.
They are both wrong.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Just wondering... where are Nausi's sources to back up his original claim. Why have you not asked for those?
You know, there is this concept called "time" that you should read up on. It's very interesting. You can discover that "time" is measurable by units that can be broken up by the lengths of "time" that has passed. You can also discover that "time" can be used to signify situations where one's responsibilities can be measured by the events that took place during that "time"
"Time" is a wonderful thing to learn, and I strongly suggest that you actually learn about it. Tomorrow, you can learn how to use the toilet without your parents changing your diapers too!
Just because someone says current doesn't mean anything. It neither proves anything nor does it give any relieable information to support said theory.
Just because you agree with something doesn't negate the need for source material and reliable information to back up a claim if you're going to require the same from someone else. The person making the claim is supposed to defend that claim not make a statement and then wait to see if others will take the time to either provide information to support or disprove it.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis? Obama has utterly failed in his choice to play it from a support role harassing ISIS airstrikes and backing the Kurds/resistance rather than committing forces to ground invasion.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. Well, me and most of the scholar that have written that this is a shitshow either way we go.
I'm curious what the ideal is here. Well, me and most of the scholar that have written that this is a shitshow either way we go.
I was wondering the same thing. I have always leaned more towards the carpet bomb until no sign of civilization remains side. Salt the earth. When was the last time you heard about the Carthaginians getting rowdy?
I never understood the whole nation building thing. I understand the profit motivations but I dont believe they thought through the whole the long term sustainability idea. Other than as the soft sell to get the authorization in the first place.
So...let isis take control, let iran build a nuke... set off the nuke and destroy iran, iraq and syria
go grab a beer?
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No one really seems to care about the problems we actually have but rather focus just on blaiming whoever we don't like. You've been asked several times now Nausi, by Sparth, to give some insight on what you think should have been done or what we should do now and all you can do is ignore him and get into a yes/no match with a pedophile.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Secondly, even going through varied sources, Nausi is still wrong. The current mess in the middle east, including ISIS, is a collaborative failing of the entire region, including recent history including both former President Bush, and current President Obama.
Then again, regardless of who stepped into office as president, it would have been the shitshow we see now.
So yes, Nausi is wrong.
They are both wrong.
(Note: Jet's argument is weak because he hasn't provided anything to support his counter claim, but that doesn't make him wrong, Nausi's argument has no merit or validity to the wild accusatory claim that it all falls on one man's shoulders, instead of the shoulders of many, including those who are responsible for the shitshow in the first place)
Nuking the middle east is clearing the only option that makes sense !
Back on Iraq huh? You aren't going to get an actual idea from KN or Nausi, they will just blame Obama and base it on their feelings.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Again, you've attacked Obama. I get it, you don't like the guy. Think he can't lead. Incompetent. Followed by a disclaimer that you'll be preemptively attacked for criticizing the POTUS.
What's the strategy to defeat ISIS Obama has failed to wrap his brain around?
The very first step in the solution is to identify the reason for the failure and take remedy to ensure it doesn't happen again, we need to hold Obama accountable for his piss poor leadership and failures.
How did FDR defeat Hitler? Cause ISIS is just about the second coming of the Nazis.
We got a little saying around here about Iraq and ISIS let Hillary deal with it !
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Again, you've attacked Obama. I get it, you don't like the guy. Think he can't lead. Incompetent. Followed by a disclaimer that you'll be preemptively attacked for criticizing the POTUS.
What's the strategy to defeat ISIS Obama has failed to wrap his brain around?
For my argument to be weak it would have to not be backed by all known history of the region, or just simple fact: it is literally impossible for the (good or bad) situation of an entire region to lay on the shoulder's of one person.
What specific failures? How are we going to hold him accountable? How will this help the situation?
So both Nausi and KN have nothing to contribute other than to blame Obama when I already stipulated that I understand. Holding him accountable isn't going to stop ISIS or the Syrian crisis. It may warm your heart but it ain't stopping executions or the shitshow that is the Syria/Iraq border.
I asked *you* what you think but essentially you can't think so you've chosen to waste my time with some FDR and Eisenhower rubbish because when you have no answers its best to distract and deflect.
I asked *you* what you think but essentially you can't think so you've chosen to waste my time with some FDR and Eisenhower rubbish because when you have no answers its best to distract and deflect.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So what's the solution to the crisis?
I would elaborate further by using the same methods I have responded to Flavin above, but I would be called racist for doing so. Even though it's astonishing how a man is able to get elected as POTUS and still cannot know anything that's going on in his own executive branch without having been told by newspapers....
Again, you've attacked Obama. I get it, you don't like the guy. Think he can't lead. Incompetent. Followed by a disclaimer that you'll be preemptively attacked for criticizing the POTUS.
What's the strategy to defeat ISIS Obama has failed to wrap his brain around?
The solution would be to provide a real leader, rather than saying we need one. Give some examples of people who are qualified to be real leaders
So you've argued a lot of fluff and can't provide an answer. Is it really so hard to say "I don't know" without actually attacking the sitting president? (This applies to both sides of the coin, and not just against one)
As it is, even if a republican nominee were in the same seat, he'd be dealing with the same ***show we've seen since this whole thing started.
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