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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 07:59:24
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fonewear said: »
Tell this guy. That you are a reverse vampire that is pro gun and thinks the only way to stop Obama is to drink his blood.


http://www.break.com/video/ugc/saucer-people-1961302
Wouldn't a reverse vampire require Obama to drink his blood?

Edit: nuts to you, I paged.

Here is a squirrel then

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By fonewear 2014-06-12 08:00:51
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A reverse Obama that actually sounds good.

Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America.

He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 08:02:26
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A reverse Obama that actually sounds good.
What, a president that unites the people, has fiscally sound agendas and policies, and doesn't ***all over the world when he doesn't get his way?

Where can I find him?
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 08:03:23
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good.
What, a president that unites the people, has fiscally sound agendas and policies, and doesn't ***all over the world when he doesn't get his way?

Where can I find him?

Maybe in another video game forum.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 08:04:57
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Speaking of politics: (looks at thread title)

Can we stop the Hillary book tour ? I mean if I wanted to read a self serving smug book I'd read Katharine Hepburn's "Me"

http://www.amazon.com/Me-Stories-Life-Katharine-Hepburn/dp/0345410092


Lisa: “Dad, don’t let these application essays throw you. Let’s see… ‘List your three favorite books and how they’ve influenced your life.’”
Homer: “Is ‘TV Guide’ a book?”
Lisa: “No.”
Homer: “‘Son of Sniglet’?”
Lisa: “No.”
Homer: “Katharine Hepburn’s ‘Me’?”
Lisa: “No!”
Homer: “Oh, I suck!
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-12 08:22:30
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To some, religious freedom means the abolishment of religion. To others, religious freedom means the abolishment of the constraints of religion.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-12 08:23:32
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fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good.

Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America.

He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-12 08:25:10
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I just learned that my cousin, an adult at 52 years of age actually believes that Obama is the Antichrist, and exprcts him to declare martial law and confiscate ALL guns any day now.
I know some people who are otherwise "normal" who believe that. I mean it's basically what Fox has been painting since before he took office.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 08:38:56
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
To some, religious freedom means the abolishment of religion. To others, religious freedom means the abolishment of the constraints on religion.
ftfy
No, it was correct the first time.

Your "fix" would have not made sense since both scenarios meant 95% the same.

Abolishment of religion nearly means the abolishment of the constraints of religion. The only difference is that religion exists in the second example, but in a useless form.

The abolishment of the restraints on religion would make religion stronger, which is what religious nuts would want.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-12 08:42:46
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Actually they mean very different things, but I don't expect you to understand that.

That's not what abolishment of religion means, stop trying to redefine words, and religion isn't useless (obviously depending if you think it has any use whatsoever) regardless of the constraints on it.

I have a lot to do today, if you want to actually discuss this for real instead of just troll, PM me and I'll get to it later, I'm sure the thread will be far gone by the time I get back.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 08:45:55
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Actually they mean very different things, but I don't expect you to understand that.

That's not what establishment of religion means, stop trying to redefine words, and religion isn't useless (obviously depending if you think it has any use whatsoever) regardless of the constraints on it.
You think they mean different things.

What you think and what it is is always different. That is why we keep telling you that you are so far removed from reality because you redefine definitions of words to suit your own needs and arguments.

Case in point: I said abolishment, not establishment. You altered the definition to fit your argument, only seeing what you want to see and not what is.

You accuse me of what you do yourself on a daily basis. That is, by definition, ironic and hypocritical. Or are you going to redefine those to counter this argument?

Or are you just going to say "semantics" without really knowing what it means?

Jetackuu said: »
I have a lot to do today, if you want to actually discuss this for real instead of just troll, PM me and I'll get to it later, I'm sure the thread will be far gone by the time I get back.
Nope, we are going to discuss this here or not at all.

I'm not going to correct you privately where you are just going to ignore it again.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 08:50:03
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A real discussion that isn't possible on the internet.
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By Jetackuu 2014-06-12 08:54:06
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Wow, I did totally type the wrong word. No the problem is that you keep redefining things once you're pointed out for being totally wrong and have no method in backing it up.

K, then keep being an ignorant fool who thinks that not letting people run wild with their religions in defiance of the law is an abolishment of religion, people will only know how crazy you really are.

on a side note: Palemoon "corrected" abolishment to establishment for me, for some reason it flagged it as wrong, and that's the first thing it came up with, I didn't pay attention when I clicked it to fix it.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 09:13:53
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fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good. Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America. He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American.

This is one point that absolute drives me mad. Oil. Fracking. Pipelines. Irresponsible timber harvesting. Coal mining/burning.

There was a time when Republicans/conservatives believed in protecting the environment and regulating the jackasses trying to abuse it in the name of greed.

There are no Republicans anymore. Just libertarians masquerading as such whilst suffering psychotic episodes of Christian delusion.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-12 09:41:44
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Jetackuu said: »
fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good. Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America. He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American.

This is one point that absolute drives me mad. Oil. Fracking. Pipelines. Irresponsible timber harvesting. Coal mining/burning.

There was a time when Republicans/conservatives believed in protecting the environment and regulating the jackasses trying to abuse it in the name of greed.

There are no Republicans anymore. Just libertarians masquerading as such whilst suffering psychotic episodes of Christian delusion.

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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 09:46:32
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Jetackuu said: »
fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good. Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America. He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American.
This is one point that absolute drives me mad. Oil. Fracking. Pipelines. Irresponsible timber harvesting. Coal mining/burning. There was a time when Republicans/conservatives believed in protecting the environment and regulating the jackasses trying to abuse it in the name of greed. There are no Republicans anymore. Just libertarians masquerading as such whilst suffering psychotic episodes of Christian delusion.

Wasn't going to mention him as despite all his upsides, he had some decidedly painful downsides as well, but yeah. He's definitely an example of the positive things I'm talking about.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-06-12 10:12:43
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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Well, he also believes a viral satire spam email that said the U.S. brought in Russian soldiers to train in the U.S. to assist in taking our guns. How am I related to this guy?
One of both of you were adopted?

He was reprogrammed by aliens in a flying saucer abduction?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 10:15:54
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Anna Ruthven said: »
.... Well, he also believes a viral satire spam email that said the U.S. brought in Russian soldiers to train in the U.S. to assist in taking our guns. How am I related to this guy?
One of both of you were adopted? He was reprogrammed by aliens in a flying saucer abduction?

Fluoridation of water. They managed to steal his manly essence.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-06-12 10:19:33
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Who in the Tea Party are actually trying to fix anything? And what tools do they employ? We've seen intimidation, obstruction, public shamings, and when you consider than MOST of the Tea Party candidates are being backed by a handful of VERY rich people with interests diametrically opposed to the populous, I see no merit in what they are doing.
They aren't trying to fix anything.

They are as much tear everything down and burn all bridges before we get to them types as the most radical people I knew in the '60s. Those people claimed to be liberal, the tea party claims to be conservative. In fact both were / are destroyers. Only difference: the tea party sits in congress....
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-06-12 10:23:05
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And just to prove how bat **** insane they can get:

Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death

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Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma.... "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:26:47
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
And just to prove how bat **** insane they can get:

Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death

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Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma.... "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."

Wrong thread you want the Huff Post thread.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:26:59
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/09/us/undocumented-children-immigrants/
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 10:40:07
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A real discussion that isn't possible on the internet.
This is the internet where anything can happen!
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:42:22
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In broad daylight, with no fear of being seen, a group of Honduran girls -- some as young as 14 -- cross illegally into the United States.

"Because I want to see my parents in Austin," one tells CNN.

Moments later, another group of Hondurans admits crossing the Rio Grande to get here, McAllen station, a border crossing into the United States. "Thank God nothing happened," they say of the perilous journey.
Mayor: 'Very comfortable with what I saw'
Undocumented children sent to Arizona
Crisis immigration centers under fire

This group quickly grows to 22. Most are children who traveled without any adults.

Unlike other stories of illegal immigration across a porous border, these immigrants aren't sneaking in. They're showing up and announcing themselves.

"We are seeing hundreds turning themselves in daily. And I mean hundreds at a time," said Chris Cabrera, a leader of the local chapter of the National Border Patrol Council, a labor union representing U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Many of the immigrants use rafts to cross the Rio Grande, equipped with instructions to follow the river until reaching the Border Patrol site to surrender.

"They know that once they get to the station, we are going to give them paperwork and we are going to set them free into the United States," Cabrera says.

U.S. law prohibits the Department of Homeland Security from immediately deporting the children if they are not from Canada or Mexico. Instead, the children are turned over to Department Health and Human Services supervision "within 72 hours of DHS taking them into custody," an official said.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 10:59:00
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On a side note. I like the prospect of young Honduras women that can't speak English...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 13:44:51
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And just to prove how bat **** insane they can get:

Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death

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Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma.... "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-12 13:50:51
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Jetackuu said: »
fonewear said: »
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good. Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America. He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc.
no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American.
This is one point that absolute drives me mad. Oil. Fracking. Pipelines. Irresponsible timber harvesting. Coal mining/burning. There was a time when Republicans/conservatives believed in protecting the environment and regulating the jackasses trying to abuse it in the name of greed. There are no Republicans anymore. Just libertarians masquerading as such whilst suffering psychotic episodes of Christian delusion.

Wasn't going to mention him as despite all his upsides, he had some decidedly painful downsides as well, but yeah. He's definitely an example of the positive things I'm talking about.


How many people are all upside and no downside though? Aside from me of course.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 13:54:52
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much.
That colored text in the story? Some of them "link" to actual source material where you can read or hear his statements firsthand. You activate links by clicking on them. Give it a try!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 13:55:41
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much.
That colored text in the story? Some of them "link" to actual source material where you can read or hear his statements firsthand. You activate links by clicking on them. Give it a try!

Willful ignorance of hyperlinks!
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 13:57:01
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