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 Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-12 09:08:16
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Bill Clinton was paid 50 million in speaking fees by the state department during Hillary's tenure.

That's more than 4 appearances a month for the 4 years Hillary was secretary of state at an average of 225k a pop (4+ times the annual household income).

Ethics don't matter if we can elect the first woman pres!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-05-12 09:16:59
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they approved his request to speak at these places they didn't pay him to... oh, it's nausi

And then they held up the federal bank bonnie and clyde style then they hopped in their '32 ford and died in a shootout with federal agents and were replaced by pod people

WHO ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY ETHICS!!!!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-05-12 09:39:27
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bill Clinton was paid 50 million in speaking fees by the state department during Hillary's tenure.

That's more than 4 appearances a month for the 4 years Hillary was secretary of state at an average of 225k a pop (4+ times the annual household income).

Ethics don't matter if we can elect the first woman pres!

Whats unethical about speaking fees?
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 09:40:18
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »

they approved his request to speak at these places they didn't pay him to... oh, it's nausi

And then they held up the federal bank bonnie and clyde style then they hopped in their '32 ford and died in a shootout with federal agents and were replaced by pod people

WHO ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY ETHICS!!!!

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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 09:42:48
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Whats unethical about speaking fees?

You'd think he'd understand supply and demand in this instance. Former presidents demand a high speaking fee, and various places supply it because prestige of former presidents speaking at their event.

Edit: And if you think rich people aren't interseted in hearing the speech of a man who held the highest office in the free world, cheated on his wife while in it, got off, the got off scott free, then managed to stay married and maintain a good public perception despite all kinds of shady ***in his financial past and present to boot...man.

Now that I've typed it all out, I'm staggered he doesn't command seven figures per gig. He could probably get it. Many rich people LUST for that kind of thing.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-05-12 09:47:28
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I think nausi is just desperate to give us a daily update on the Clintons, we know he doesn't understand anything.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-12 09:53:16
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bill Clinton was paid 50 million in speaking fees by the state department during Hillary's tenure.

That's more than 4 appearances a month for the 4 years Hillary was secretary of state at an average of 225k a pop (4+ times the annual household income).

Ethics don't matter if we can elect the first woman pres!

Whats unethical about speaking fees?

I guess vic doesn't see it as a problem to have the secretary of state funnel state department (public) money to her husband (and thus herself).

Nothing to see here.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-05-12 10:00:04
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I guess vic doesn't see it as a problem to have the secretary of state funnel state department (public) money to her husband (and thus herself).

Nothing to see here.

/sigh
it's not public money nausi, you read it wrong and even misquoted the title of the article....
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-05-12 10:03:37
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There has never been anything to see in your posts nausi. You are once again completely delusional, the state department was not paying Clinton for his appearances, nowhere in your article does it state that. They simply approved his appearances as there was no reason not to. None of that money was public, none of it was paid by the state dept.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-05-12 10:04:11
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I guess vic doesn't see it as a problem to have the secretary of state funnel state department (public) money to her husband (and thus herself).

Nothing to see here.
Except thats not even what happened... I mean, not even the article you linked is saying that... What they were alleging is that a) the Clinton's have been bought and paid for by certain entities and b) that they strained the bounds of ethics by green lighting some of the speeches he gave and was paid for such as Barclays who was under federal investigation for violationg sanctions against Iran and the like...

They also mocked the clintons for the comment previously about how they have struggled financially as government employees.

It still baffles me that you can call out anyone else for lack of reading comprehension when you do stuff like this.
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 10:04:26
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Nausi's link:

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Those are bad enough, but it gets worse. The UAE paid Bill $600,000 for an appearance in 2011, which seems highly problematic in the context of ethics, as his wife was at the time in charge of US diplomacy. Is it customary for other nations to stick cash into the family pocket of a Secretary of State? How did that get past the “ethics” review at State?

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-12 10:15:40
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Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-05-12 10:17:56
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough

/comfort

now you know how ken starr feels
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-05-12 10:18:36
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough
If there is one I hope it does turn up... until then please try to actually read the articles you post before going on a rant about something that didn't happen...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-12 10:19:35
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough
If there is one I hope it does turn up... until then please try to actually read the articles you post before going on a rant about something that didn't happen...
Thanks coach!
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 10:19:40
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough

/comfort

now you know how ken starr feels

Bwahahahahahahahaha.

Now that was funny.

"I lol'ed!"
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By fonewear 2015-05-12 10:21:26
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This all could have been averted:

"I don't have time to read it, just give me the gist of it, son."
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-05-12 10:25:53
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough
/comfort

now you know how ken starr feels
No he doesn't.

Ken Starr is now a professor at Pepperdine University. He was once under consideration for the Supreme court. Quite the come down.
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By fonewear 2015-05-12 10:29:11
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I'd be more proud of being a professor at Pepperdine though...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-05-12 10:39:02
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough

Hillary deleted it already.
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 10:40:22
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough
/comfort

now you know how ken starr feels
No he doesn't.

Ken Starr is now a professor at Pepperdine University. He was once under consideration for the Supreme court. Quite the come down.

Thank you for sucking the fun out of it, Grandma Killjoy!

>:(
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 10:41:07
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fonewear said: »
I'd be more proud of being a professor at Pepperdine though...

Supreme Court appointments are for life.

I've wanted that gig since I was like 14.

Except, while I could handle law school, I don't think I could handle the cutthroat world of politics. I'm too honest.
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By fonewear 2015-05-12 10:43:49
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Yea but the Supreme Court like you said has become more political than "interpreting the Constitution"
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 10:45:17
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Yea but the Supreme Court like you said has become more political than "interpreting the Constitution"

It's job security for life with pay, pension, and everyone offering you investment opportunities.

If I could find it in my heart to be corrupt, man.

The things I'd do.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-05-12 10:45:42
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ken Starr is now a professor at Pepperdine University.

so is nausi!

perhaps "felt" in the past tense would have been a better choice of words... he thought he was going to unravel whitewater and bust open the arkansas mafia... and ended up getting bill's law license suspended for five years for lying about monica.
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By fonewear 2015-05-12 10:50:17
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Ken Starr is now a professor at Pepperdine University.

so is nausi!

perhaps "felt" in the past tense would have been a better choice of words... he thought he was going to unravel whitewater and bust open the arkansas mafia... and ended up getting bill's law license suspended for five years for lying about monica.

It's so crazy it has to be true !
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By fonewear 2015-05-12 10:53:15
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Sigh, I guess I jumped the gun this time.

No matter the smoking gun will turn up soon enough

Hillary deleted it already.

What if I told you Hillary was Edward Snowden... my mind is blown !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-05-12 10:59:25
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fonewear said: »

It's so crazy it has to be true !

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By fonewear 2015-05-12 11:11:36
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"I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democracy simply doesn't work."
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By Ramyrez 2015-05-12 11:12:47
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fonewear said: »
"I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democracy simply doesn't work."

Bring on the totalitariam regime already. I have a Half-life 2 fantasy I want to live out before I'm too old and out-of-shape for it to work.
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